Yeah but people really only play one of the int classes
Monk is incredibly cheap to gear for progression as well because you can get single res on a ton of your pieces and get by.
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Yeah but people really only play one of the int classes
Monk is incredibly cheap to gear for progression as well because you can get single res on a ton of your pieces and get by.
So it seems that Gems and Blacksmith tombs can now be sold in RMAH. I'll be interested to see what the avg price settles at (or if anyone would use real money on them at all)
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-07-11-diablo-3-patch-1-0-3b-live-in-europe
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-07-11-diablo-3-patch-1-0-3b-live-in-europe
Wizard is the correct answer as it's a ranged class with high dps and also great defensive skills and doesn't require good gear to be one-shot proof in act 3-4
RubxQub
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I rolled a WD because Monks being largely defensive abilities with like 1-2 actives for offense, the play style wasn't really gelling with me.
WD definitely requires more thinking, although it looks like Dire Bats will let me faceroll for a bit. A lot more active and challenging which is nice, and hopefully they get a little Blizz love so they're more viable in the end game.
Worst case I'll get to 60 and roll a Wiz for gear transfer between chars.
WD definitely requires more thinking, although it looks like Dire Bats will let me faceroll for a bit. A lot more active and challenging which is nice, and hopefully they get a little Blizz love so they're more viable in the end game.
Worst case I'll get to 60 and roll a Wiz for gear transfer between chars.
since everything is capped at a minimum of $.25 a piece, why do they even put anything below perfect square or ANY crafting mats besides fiery brimstone eligible for sale? doesn't seem like they'd ever move...
Krauser Kat
Member
Found without gems on a 1d10h timer (two hours!) for 2 million.
Love me some AH.
FUUU i have been looking for pants like that but with some fire resist.
just got a message from a friend he bought a weapon upgrade for my barb for 2.4m. after doing a quick math i figure it'll be at least a 20k dps upgrade. so cant wait to get home tonight to try out the weapon.
here's hoping he's not joking about the weapon, because the stats on the weapon make it a ridiculously expensive weapon.
here's hoping he's not joking about the weapon, because the stats on the weapon make it a ridiculously expensive weapon.
michaelius
Banned
What's the price in USD for highest tier gem ?
If you're on EU, I have a pair of similar pants with 30+ fire resist.
Is it just me or was the auction house pretty empty last night? I've been looking for 2h xbows for a week or so and when I finally have money, last night it seemed like there was nothing.
I couldn't find more than a few overpriced 2h over 1k dps w/ dex and crit damage.
Maybe the downtime killed some auctions?
I couldn't find more than a few overpriced 2h over 1k dps w/ dex and crit damage.
Maybe the downtime killed some auctions?
UnluckyKate
Member
Put a random shiled (stats where okay-ish) for 400k yesterday.
this morning it was sold.
WHAT. so random
this morning it was sold.
WHAT. so random
RubxQub
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Its kind of weird seeing people so openly discussing using real money to buy items/gold outside the system Blizzard put in place.
People buying accounts, items or money for games previously has typically been viewed as a "cop-out", but with Diablo 3 basically making it the status quo by putting the mechanism in game, its discussed openly without any hesitation or perceived embarrassment.
I'm not saying people using real money to buy items or in game money should be frowned upon or anything like that...it's just interesting to me how quickly the perception of acceptability changes the moment there's a legit means of doing things.
People buying accounts, items or money for games previously has typically been viewed as a "cop-out", but with Diablo 3 basically making it the status quo by putting the mechanism in game, its discussed openly without any hesitation or perceived embarrassment.
I'm not saying people using real money to buy items or in game money should be frowned upon or anything like that...it's just interesting to me how quickly the perception of acceptability changes the moment there's a legit means of doing things.
ThatStupidLion
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impossible! I've resorted to putting great items up for 5000 and they still dont sell.
/jealousy
Pretty much, I never would have considered selling pixels for real money, but heck, if it's part of the game, I'm in. Just wish I had more time to farm and make a couple extra dollars.
Help me understand this. I am confused how my current gear on my hero results in almost double the damage. The most significant difference may be that currently when I crit I do an extra 100% as opposed to an extra 50%, but would that really make that large of a difference? I would think that two crossbows that each have impressive DPS stats would beat out a single crossbow even with a quiver, as the quiver really is only adding some dex and not that much. Especially since my hero's attacks per second is much higher with the twin crossbows. Any thoughts?
Current Demon Hunter Setup :
Damage = 7957.97
Dex = 867
Attacks per Second = 1.22
Crit Chance = 100%
Crit Damage = +100%
Weapons = 2-Hand Crossbow + Quiver
Crossbow
370.7 DPS
280-394 DMG
1.10 Attacks per Second
+89-161 Holy Damage
+88 Strength
+58 Dex
+63 Vitality
2.30% of Damage Dealt converted to Life
Quiver
+44 Dex
+45 Int
+11% Attack Speed
New gear
Damage = 4223.91
Dex = 765
Attacks per Second = 1.84
Crit Chance = 100%
Crit Damage = +50%
Weapons = Two 1 Handed Crossbows
Crossbow 1
303.2 DPS
85-294 DMG
1.60 Attacks per Second
+50-146 Arcane Damage
+277 Life after Each Kill
Crossbow 2
262.1 DPS
74-238 DMG
1.68 Attacks per Second
+47-88 Lightning Damage
+53 Strenght
+188 Int
+111 Vitality
Current Demon Hunter Setup :
Damage = 7957.97
Dex = 867
Attacks per Second = 1.22
Crit Chance = 100%
Crit Damage = +100%
Weapons = 2-Hand Crossbow + Quiver
Crossbow
370.7 DPS
280-394 DMG
1.10 Attacks per Second
+89-161 Holy Damage
+88 Strength
+58 Dex
+63 Vitality
2.30% of Damage Dealt converted to Life
Quiver
+44 Dex
+45 Int
+11% Attack Speed
New gear
Damage = 4223.91
Dex = 765
Attacks per Second = 1.84
Crit Chance = 100%
Crit Damage = +50%
Weapons = Two 1 Handed Crossbows
Crossbow 1
303.2 DPS
85-294 DMG
1.60 Attacks per Second
+50-146 Arcane Damage
+277 Life after Each Kill
Crossbow 2
262.1 DPS
74-238 DMG
1.68 Attacks per Second
+47-88 Lightning Damage
+53 Strenght
+188 Int
+111 Vitality
Psychotext
Member
I just wasted 100k (ok, I know that's nothing to most of you) on a pair of gloves that proved to not even be close to being an upgrade.
Why can't the AH tooltip work in the same was as the ingame one?
Why can't the AH tooltip work in the same was as the ingame one?
I believe the short of it is 100 extra dex is 100% more damage. The extra 50% crit damage is a big boost as well. And you have a higher base damage weapon with another 11% attack speed.
I just wasted 100k (ok, I know that's nothing to most of you) on a pair of gloves that proved to not even be close to being an upgrade.
Why can't the AH tooltip work in the same was as the ingame one?
I know
I share the same frustrations. It's not always easy to see if an item is going to be an upgrade or not.100% Crit Chance with 50% Crit Damage is a 150% Damage multiplier:
[1 + Crit Chance * Crit Damage]
So taking that to 100% Crit Damage means it is now a 200% Damage multiplier.
Additionally, that ~100 DEX difference means the 2H Setup has a 9.67 Damage Multiplier vs the DW Setup of 8.65:
[1 + DEX / 100]
But, the biggest difference is that your DW setup is bad anyway. 303.2 DPS and 262.1 DPS are just that much worse than 370.7 DPS. Especially since DW functions as an alternating attacking system so the DW setup is really "only" using a ~280 DPS Weapon since it's basically an average of the two. Honestly, you're better off with a Quiver instead of the off-hand Bow here.
I just wasted 100k (ok, I know that's nothing to most of you) on a pair of gloves that proved to not even be close to being an upgrade.
Why can't the AH tooltip work in the same was as the ingame one?
Been down that road. At one point I bought 3 weapons that were all sidegrades.
Now I use these two tools:
DPS:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApVAeMW4XRfcdGNrQlJWNmlVRGQzZU52S2JrX3F2Snc
EHP:
http://rubensayshi.github.com/d3-ehp-calculator/#calculator/
I just wasted 100k (ok, I know that's nothing to most of you) on a pair of gloves that proved to not even be close to being an upgrade.
Why can't the AH tooltip work in the same was as the ingame one?
Seriously hate that I need to calculate it through a spreadsheet or program when the game should be doing it. IF Blizz wants to promote users to use AH to advance in the game then shouldn't it do everything it can to do to make sales happen?
you have to use the AH again if you mess up purchases! that's an extra buy and sell they generate
Any benevolent (NA server) souls mind taking down Belial in Hell for my alt Barb? I'm at Blood and Sand again (thanks to the people that helped me skip it in Normal/Nightmare) and as always, if I have to do that quest one more time I'll jump off a bridge
I can jump on my Inferno geared tank Barb and help you right now. Sophia#1244
Any benevolent (NA server) souls mind taking down Belial in Hell for my alt Barb? I'm at Blood and Sand again (thanks to the people that helped me skip it in Normal/Nightmare) and as always, if I have to do that quest one more time I'll jump off a bridge
If you are still in need when I get off work I'll knock if off for you. That's around 5:30pm EST. garath#1132
Thank you. I sent a friend request.
Edit: Thanks for the help.
I'm hoping to be spewing out tornadoes by that time
Thanks anyway though.
Psychotext
Member
So I just found a spreadsheet and it's not massively surprising why my new gloves weren't a match for the old ones.
I'd need 105 int or 13% crit or 30% crit damage just to equal the 6% attack speed I have on them!
I'd need 105 int or 13% crit or 30% crit damage just to equal the 6% attack speed I have on them!
Any chance this is worth something guys? Dmg looks a bit low but dat critdamage
You might get something for it, but that damage is awfully low for it's item level.
That crit damage is niiiice however.
Any chance this is worth something guys? Dmg looks a bit low but dat critdamage
Vendor trash, sadly. Unless someone dumb comes along that doesn't understand how DPS works.
BigBlue1974
Member
It'd make for a nice weapon for the scoundrel coupled with his multi-shot.
followers have no natural crit% though and you can get cold bows with vit/dex and better dps for pretty cheap
Any benevolent (NA server) souls mind taking down Belial in Hell for my alt Barb? I'm at Blood and Sand again (thanks to the people that helped me skip it in Normal/Nightmare) and as always, if I have to do that quest one more time I'll jump off a bridge
Do you still need help? Add me at ThinFinn#1784.
SonicX_Zero
Member
So I found a some perfect and flawless star recipes which I can sell in the GAH for some million or do I go for some $ in RMAH? <_<
Marrshu already helped. Thanks though.
How much $?
Consider 1m to be $2.50. Convert how many millions you'd get to dollars, and then see if the amount you can get for the plans is more or less than you'd get for gold at that exchange rate.
SonicX_Zero
Member
Well the perfect star emerald atm floats at 5m to $11 in the RMAH, so that $2.50/1m rate makes sense. Thanks.
Alright. Didn't see your edit before posting.
There are some really good legendaries, though. It's mostly the weapons that are screwed up. For the lower level stuff I think they just need to make them drop a bit more often when you can actually use it. Those two changes and legendaries would be perfect.
Is there another ZK-esque leveling tactic for Hell yet? =/ An hour later and I'm only a level higher -_-
Don't those cost 20 something million to make? That's less than $2 per million.
Gold is down to $1 per mil?
Ok, let's say $1/m, and you need 20m to make the gem. That's $20. You make it, and it sells for $35, minus 30% (15% if you want the money in blizzbucks but....who wants those?), you're left with like...$25.
I don't know that the gem costs 20m (I have no idea).
Either way, I have no idea where you are getting $16 in profit. $5 maybe, per pull, seems more accurate, unless I'm missing something huge. I guess if you invest $100, and get $25 back, that's not bad. Then again, that's dependent on the market for them staying where it is currently.
Don't those cost 20 something million to make? That's less than $2 per million.
Gold is down to $1 per mil?
Ok, let's say $1/m, and you need 20m to make the gem. That's $20. You make it, and it sells for $35, minus 30% (15% if you want the money in blizzbucks but....who wants those?), you're left with like...$25.
I don't know that the gem costs 20m (I have no idea).
Either way, I have no idea where you are getting $16 in profit. $5 maybe, per pull, seems more accurate, unless I'm missing something huge. I guess if you invest $100, and get $25 back, that's not bad. Then again, that's dependent on the market for them staying where it is currently.
But you make the gem, sell, buy gold from a gold seller at near 1$ per million, so I guess 16$ profit per gem. Theoretically the market would allow right now to buy the gold at a much cheaper cost than it takes to make the gem.
Edit : Forgot the 30% cut, thanks for reminding me. So the situation still allows someone to basically print $5 bills, no?
I like this http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/6079707996#1
IAS was OP, but needed to be nerfed because too many people used it. Crit is OP, but doesn't need to be nerfed because....everyone uses it? What?
I guess step one is figuring out how much the gem actually costs to make. If it's 20m or less, and they keep selling around $35 then...yeah, I guess. Figure that if this is the case, the market will figure it out sooner rather than later, and the price of the gems will go down as people get desperate and undercut each other.
IAS was OP, but needed to be nerfed because too many people used it. Crit is OP, but doesn't need to be nerfed because....everyone uses it? What?
I guess step one is figuring out how much the gem actually costs to make. If it's 20m or less, and they keep selling around $35 then...yeah, I guess. Figure that if this is the case, the market will figure it out sooner rather than later, and the price of the gems will go down as people get desperate and undercut each other.
Fenderputty
Banned
It seems like in a week, there will be buy one get one free sales. 2 mill per buck. When the game came out, it was like $14 for a million.
There was a very brief moment where gold was $40 per million (on the NA server). If Blizzard hadn't set a $2.50 minimum, gold wouldn't even be worth $1 per million now (once gold selling is turned on).
I think there are enough people that don't want to mess with third party sellers, that gold will actually sell at the $2.50/m mark. I don't think it will go a cent higher though.
How would someone do that? Just check if the average sale price fluctuates at all based on time, or if stays the same?
Radiant Star's are something I could see a rich person buying. It's like... "I just bought this chest piece for $250. How can I make this even more of a trophy? Oh, I know!"
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