Yeah 200k would be enough. Leveling gear can be quite cheap. You shouldn't be overspending until you hit level 60, and even then you can do lots of good gearing for cheap/GAF hand me downs
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Yeah 200k would be enough. Leveling gear can be quite cheap. You shouldn't be overspending until you hit level 60, and even then you can do lots of good gearing for cheap/GAF hand me downs
turnbuckle
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By the time you are in he'll its generally better to ditch cains and put on gear that will allow you to most quickly get through mp5-10. 2 mp levels is worth more than the set bonus, and the dps and ehp of cains can make hell he'll.
Buy a lvl 60 minus level req weapon and you'll tear through 50-60.
He asked for quickest way. I didn't even think that anyone would play at less than MP 9 or 10 before Inferno.
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
So how does one "play" Inferno now? Since I don't have money to buy AH gear, should I just play MP0 through Act 4 and then go back and start MP1 farming? Or do I just muscle through MP1 from the get go?
This is fantastic.
It's the same build skill-wise I was using to exp grind, but this snapshot/swap gives a very noticeable actual dps increase even though my paper dps is only 105k. With this I can do exp runs on MP2 faster than I could on MP0 before. More testing will be required to see if MP3 is worth it from an efficiency standpoint. Probably not.
One thing I would recommend though - If you're using this trick on MP2 or lower you should probably use firestorm instead of cyclone strike. Everything will die before you can even spawn a tornado, so you might as well take the extended radius on the SW. CS is great for single target, but at this easy difficulty you might as well hit as many enemies as possible in the least amount of time.
Fenderputty
Banned
It really is something. I think a cool part about the build is how survivable you become too. The LS on the snapshot makes RD on MP7 a breeze.
In playing around I think I like cyclone strike on higher mp more than tempest rush.
In playing around I think I like cyclone strike on higher mp more than tempest rush.
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
I'm done with that sword and that Star Ruby whenever you want them back Kennah. Thanks again!
ertitoagus
Member
rumours of news on this week? (nerfs & buffs for all, yeah!!!!!)
Been speculating since thanksgiving...I think blizzard gave up post release features and packing everything in the next expansion. I doubt the sales will be high as they expect considering how much ad word of mouth this game got in 2012
ertitoagus
Member
i'm waiting the news about the OWE nerf.....
Fenderputty
Banned
Please don't nerf my new build. PLEASE! lol
turnbuckle
Member
Think it's time I hang it up. Spent way too much time playing this game and I gotta quit cold turkey. 
turnbuckle
Member
Wish there was a safe, easy-ish way to sell my account. Easily have over a grand worth of stuff on my account, in my stash, and on my characters combined.
Fenderputty
Banned
Not sure about selling an account. Just sell the gear piece by piece and thyen sell the gold. Gold sells as fast as you put it up.
I've actually worked my way into not caring about a OWE nerf. I only have two or three pieces with a double stack of res. My base AR is almost 600 right now.
I've actually worked my way into not caring about a OWE nerf. I only have two or three pieces with a double stack of res. My base AR is almost 600 right now.
crimzonflame
Member
So I managed to get to level 60 (1) last night and finished inferno act 1 because I was in a good party. What should I be doing now in the game? I have very little gold and crappy gear.
turnbuckle
Member
That's the problem, I'm so easily lured back into the game that spending time selling stuff on the AH will likely draw me back in. Especially considering I have so many friends (well, about 8 real life friends, 40-50 Gaf and in-game friends).
Also, a lot of what I have to sell can be sort of big ticket items but may take a day days or over a week to sell. I was down to 8 million gold last week and now I'm at over 750m with over $160 in my RMAH account from auction sales
Stormshields are where it's at! Using the sweeping wind trick and equipping a 10% crit, 32 block stormshield made soloing Ubers on MP8 a cinch. I'm not sure if that's part of why they sell for so much, but man they're a gold mine. They've been selling a little slower since the PVP news, but just today I sold one for 210 million gold that I had purchased for 100 million. Sold about 8 in the last week.
Making a monk has been highly profitable for me too. I've been really lucky but I found an inna's chest that I bought for 85 million gold and sold it a day later for $73
Bought an Inna's radiance for 20 million gold on 1d12h that had 170+ dex, 73 All Res, 1.6 spirit regen, 95ish vitality, 5.5 crit. Seeing similar ones going for hundreds of millions, but it'd take awhile for me to sell that on the rmah.
I should just delete my characters and play the AH game lol
Fenderputty
Banned
It has imprioved. Though I would imagine coming back would have to do with reasons on why you left.
I you were mad at progression, being punished for partying or the amount of legendaries that dropped, then things have been greatly improved.
If you were made because you though the itemization wasn't worth the effort, then things are only very slightly better with an upgrade to legendaries at 1.0.4.
That's the problem, I'm so easily lured back into the game that spending time selling stuff on the AH will likely draw me back in. Especially considering I have so many friends (well, about 8 real life friends, 40-50 Gaf and in-game friends).
Also, a lot of what I have to sell can be sort of big ticket items but may take a day days or over a week to sell. I was down to 8 million gold last week and now I'm at over 750m with over $160 in my RMAH account from auction sales
Stormshields are where it's at! Using the sweeping wind trick and equipping a 10% crit, 32 block stormshield made soloing Ubers on MP8 a cinch. I'm not sure if that's part of why they sell for so much, but man they're a gold mine. They've been selling a little slower since the PVP news, but just today I sold one for 210 million gold that I had purchased for 100 million. Sold about 8 in the last week.
Making a monk has been highly profitable for me too. I've been really lucky but I found an inna's chest that I bought for 85 million gold and sold it a day later for $73
Bought an Inna's radiance for 20 million gold on 1d12h that had 170+ dex, 73 All Res, 1.6 spirit regen, 95ish vitality, 5.5 crit. Seeing similar ones going for hundreds of millions, but it'd take awhile for me to sell that on the rmah.
I should just delete my characters and play the AH game lol
If you're serious about quitting, sell whatever you can in a couple days and raffle the rest off. Have a GAF / friend / wherever else you post raffle for ths stuff that doesn't sell. It sounds like you've made a good chunk of coin already!
Personally ... I would rather sell me gear than my character. If I ever had to come back, I wouldn't want to start compeltely over. Especially with the paragon grinding. I'm assuming you would want to play if a really cool patch came out and probably when the expansion comes too.
prodystopian
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Radiant Star emerald plan dropped. I sold it for 1.8m which gave me enough for a cheap pair of Inna's pants. 24% movements speed is amazing.
I know a few things I need to upgrade, but I'd like advice on what I should prioritize:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/prodystopian-1605/hero/29104444
Edit: I don't have a stockpile of gold or anything. I'm thinking of going for Inna's Vast Expanse first.
I know a few things I need to upgrade, but I'd like advice on what I should prioritize:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/prodystopian-1605/hero/29104444
Edit: I don't have a stockpile of gold or anything. I'm thinking of going for Inna's Vast Expanse first.
Do stuff like Inna's set pieces really drop?
Do u have to be like paragon 60 and play at MP 10 to get items like that?
I have reached to 60 with 2 classes (barb and DH) and at paragon 6 with DH...But it is so boring now. Inferno is not challenging anymore and MP levels are just a hassle with their buffed hps. It takes forever to kill things. Kiting around them with sentry turrents in the middle gets boring quite fast lol.
I think i have seen it all. I wish Blizzard was a more productive company and could released some new areas and enemies sooner.
Do u have to be like paragon 60 and play at MP 10 to get items like that?
I have reached to 60 with 2 classes (barb and DH) and at paragon 6 with DH...But it is so boring now. Inferno is not challenging anymore and MP levels are just a hassle with their buffed hps. It takes forever to kill things. Kiting around them with sentry turrents in the middle gets boring quite fast lol.
I think i have seen it all. I wish Blizzard was a more productive company and could released some new areas and enemies sooner.
Fenderputty
Banned
I'm wearing the inna's helm I found and the nats ring I've found so yeah. I've probably found 2-5 pieces of each set so far too.
Though if you don't like farming in inferno you won't see one.
Have you tried ring farming?
Though if you don't like farming in inferno you won't see one.
Have you tried ring farming?
What is ring farming?
Fenderputty
Banned
Look up the hellfire ring and über boss runs. You'll want to be mp5 capable though. They added in some endgame content for people who keep farming inferno.
Inna's is the set that I get the most frequently. I've earned the achievement for completing a set by getting each of the Inna's pieces to drop at least once. 1 daibo, 2 belts, 2 pants, 3+ chests, 4+ hats. Other sets rarely come around for me. Just got some Nat's boots yesterday. I've had a few IK pieces. Tals? Nope.
No. A3M0 is the area and difficulty at which many who still play the game farm at constantly.
Right. The key is to find the right MP so that you are challenged but not overwhelmed.
Yes, more map randomization is my #1 concern which I want them to address.
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
Ok guys, I have a few questions. Since I've never really tried to "experience" the end-game (as can be seen on my DH in profile below), I was hoping for a few tips.
1). Here's my profile:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/nicoga3000-1757/hero/14921167
I have only ~400k gold, so I don't have much. What should I be working towards gear wise?
2). Should I aim to clear MP0 and then start farming MP1 for gear? Or should I just jump on MP1 ASAP?
3). Is there a good list of stats to watch for on drops? I've literally been selling any ilvl 62 or less, and stashing 63 just in case. No clue what I'm looking for though.
4). And I have to ask - are ponies even worth doing? I love the bonus level shit, but if it gives no real benefit to running, I probably won't bother anytime soon.
1). Here's my profile:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/nicoga3000-1757/hero/14921167
I have only ~400k gold, so I don't have much. What should I be working towards gear wise?
2). Should I aim to clear MP0 and then start farming MP1 for gear? Or should I just jump on MP1 ASAP?
3). Is there a good list of stats to watch for on drops? I've literally been selling any ilvl 62 or less, and stashing 63 just in case. No clue what I'm looking for though.
4). And I have to ask - are ponies even worth doing? I love the bonus level shit, but if it gives no real benefit to running, I probably won't bother anytime soon.
Critical Chance, Increased Attack Speed, Critical Hit Damage
CC, IAS, CHD
This is what's referred to singularly as "trifecta" when people talk about a single gear piece.
Build up enough defense so that you don't get one-hit killed by whatever enemies you intend to regularly face. D3 purely rewards offense over defense now.
Act 3 and Act 4 is fine for MP0. Acts 1 and 2 require MP1 to ensure L63 drops.
The first goal is comfortably running A3M0. Nobody farms A4 because the layout sucks. Once you've build up enough, run A1 or A2 for diversity.
Run with groups if you want to do key warden hunts or uber runs. Higher MP the better there, and much less efficient to do so solo regardless.
That's a mistake.
Item affix values roll on the basis of the monster's level from which they're dropped as opposed to the item's level.
Pay attention to the affix values and pay no attention to the item's level.
IAS is still basically king.
CC.
CHD.
Weapons - Sockets. Life leech (X% of damage is gained as life). IAS. CHD. Primaries (STR DEX INT).
Jewelry - Trifectas. Minimum and Maximum Damage. LOH maybe. AR, primaries, vit on the lower end.
Other - Triple digit primary. AR. Vit. Dual resist (AR plus single element resist) might help.
Shields - Worthless.
An easier way to price items you find -
Right click on the item while in the auction house, to "Search for similar items". X out all but 3 which matter. Search and sort by cheapest, and assume that your item won't sell for more than 50% less than what's cheapest. The above stated affixes usually matter. Affixes which don't matter -
Thorns, globes, crowd control, status ailment on hit (freeze on hit, stun on hit, &c.), life regeneration, life on kill, % damage reduction from melee/ranged, % life (doesn't command a premium), arguably magic find (I consider it snake oil), +armor (important but nobody prices for it).
No. The map layout sucks and enemy placement is sparse. Nobody does it.
Fenderputty
Banned
I do the ponies for shits and giggles occasionally when doing act I key runs. Always a full stack and its a fun change of pace every now and then.
Other than that, completely worthless. I remember when chests weren't nerfed and everyone ran around hitting clouds.
Other than that, completely worthless. I remember when chests weren't nerfed and everyone ran around hitting clouds.
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
Wow - thank you. Thank you SO much for this!
Your spec is pretty bad. You have four different attack spells when you only need max two. The very high mp specs dont use any direct attack spells at all.
Spirit walk and soul harvest are great, but if you are mainly using poison dart and acid cloud you should get rid of toads and bears. Toads are mainly used if you have life on hit and bears require a specific spec that can refill your mana constantly. If you can spam bears then get rid of acid cloud.
If you want to farm higher monster powers you could use pets to tank for you. Dogs and the gargantuan can tank pretty much any enemy in mp0-3.
Also I feel that attack speed is pretty bad for witch doctors because the mana cost of good damage spells goes way up with it. Much better to use crit chance & crit damage.
That does not make much sense.
Blizzard has one chance of making the expansion sell 4+ million copies, if not less.
And that is if the users are the happiest with the current D3 when the expansion comes.
If they do not fix almost anything that needs fixing (skills, reliance on weapon damage, plus endgame content, lack of pvp for some, crafting, missing artisan, real gem variety), they will just as well not release any expansion for the game
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
I've not really run into many problems with my spec, but I can definitely investigate options. What options do you have to keep mana high?
I use poison dart more because it's just what I've used since level 1. It seems to work out for me. Bears with spirit walk and soul harvest pretty much allow me to run into any pack and stomp them. Acid cloud is there for picking off mobs as I wander, and toads are largely for hitting over wallers. Toads is definitely a wasted slot at the moment.
As for my passives, I haven't touched them in a while, but Grave Injustice makes packs with elites mixed in a joke (CD nearly resets). My only problem is mana regen, but I'm not sure (as I stated above) how to keep it topped off for bear spam.
I typically avoid pets since they were SO bad at release. Are they more viable now? How does one "build" pets to keep them alive?
I'm using Grave Injustice, Gruesome Feast, Sacrifice and Zunimassa's set for mana and it still isn't enough for acid rain spam. I think if I switched my Soul Harvest to harvest mana I could spam acid rain/bears all day.
Vision Quest got nerfed super hard and almost made the bears build unpractical. I dropped VQ/bears when VQ got nerfed. Pierce the veil was good before the VQ nerf, but I feel that the increase in mana costs in unreasonable without the godlike VQ.
Pets are pretty good these days. With Zombie Handler passive they are pretty much invinsible. Your cooldowns will be ready when the something kills your pets. I was using pets with dirt cheap gear before I got some gold and upgraded to acid rain build: http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/BarelyOK-2277/hero/2969907
Bears are still pretty much the best.
Key to efficiency with them:
Make a build with +27-32 yards pickup
Include summon dogs, sacrifice (return mana variety)
Use both Gruesome feast and Grave Injustice.
Then pick an MP level in which elites die by the time you empty your mana on them with bears once or twice (drain mana, Sacrifice dogs - full mana again, drain mana - if needed, resummon dogs and Sacrifice again). Bam, you have a godlike build.
What makes it tick is 3%+ life steal and some life on hit, though.
Key to efficiency with them:
Make a build with +27-32 yards pickup
Include summon dogs, sacrifice (return mana variety)
Use both Gruesome feast and Grave Injustice.
Then pick an MP level in which elites die by the time you empty your mana on them with bears once or twice (drain mana, Sacrifice dogs - full mana again, drain mana - if needed, resummon dogs and Sacrifice again). Bam, you have a godlike build.
What makes it tick is 3%+ life steal and some life on hit, though.
That is pretty much what I'm using but with acid rain instead of bears and pretty bad pickup radius (14 I think).
Bad thing about the pickup radius build is that it pretty much requires the Thing of the Deep which is very expensive. Also I don't think that bears can keep up with the highest monster powers. For them you pretty much need this build.
ertitoagus
Member
Any secret info????
I might have gotten lucky with my Thing of the Deep though... bought it for 2-3 million, EU
But yeah, they are required. Bears are useful up till mp5-6 with this (do not ask why I lack the gem in my dagger, must have gotten into one of my alt's weapons,lol -.-). But that bear build is not spamming it constantly, and has more useful summons, and manaregen passive.
CarbonatedFalcon
Member
Anyone else see that Bashiok was moved back to the WoW team?
Don't think that bodes well for D3.
Don't think that bodes well for D3.
It explains why he hasn't said much since that post regarding no end game. He moved back to the WoW team shortly before MoP launched
Liferebooted
Banned
Rofl, a treasure goblin tossed a bk solemn vow at me as he was running away.
Rofl, a treasure goblin tossed a bk solemn vow at me as he was running away.
Made me chuckle. I hadnt found any set items for a week, but today found 3 that made me 12 million.
Liferebooted
Banned
this is too hilarious i had to share this one
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/7414956926
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/7414956926
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