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[SABRE220]

So this is how Nintendo fans act when they get moderately competent hardware lol. Not going to lie Nintendo fans have become a little insufferable, they can see no wrong in the company and will cheerlead like no other. Personally I'm very dissapointed in Sony and am considering moving to PC and I can admit their mistakes but goodluck finding any Nintendo fans being reasonable or impartial.

Nintendo is doing well but taking over the homeconsole market...what? They have the handheld market in their grip which they can leverage somewhat as a homeconsole but it's definitely not what it's primary strength is.

 

[Alexios]

They've been winning aeons now but if you wanna do some meta commentary on other manufacturers going platform agnostic or whatever then I guess Sega won by being the first to know and go after the inevitable

 

[Felessan]

True but that's a dying breed. Steam went from some niche 1% of the PS2 userbase store to having more monthly active users than PS4 and PS5 combined. Steam and PC gaming is the biggest platform (not counting mobile) now and continues to grow while the console user has stopped growing because kids play on phones and tablets and the ones really into games move to PC. So if kids can handle a PC I'm sure most people are fine and that's exactly how steam grew into the behemoth it is now, PC is not some mysterious esoteric thing if kids can handle it just fine.

You are mixing Steam growth with PC growth - it's not the same things. Steam keeps converting PC userbase into their own ecosystem - it doesn't mean that PC gaming get more users. It s.just existing users go onto platform. And yes, PC gaming historically had a huge number of users those don't pay much though.

The future is the present: mobile gaming and second to that PC. Consoles are not attracting new users like they used to, because why would they when a kid has all he needs as soon as his parents buy him a tablet.

PC doesn't show real growth.
Just because Steam numbers now counting tens of millions Chinese (who were already on PC, just not on Steam) doesn't mean that it get better ground in let's say western countries.

 

[RetroGamingUK]

True but that's a dying breed. Steam went from some niche 1% of the PS2 userbase store to having more monthly active users than PS4 and PS5 combined. Steam and PC gaming is the biggest platform (not counting mobile) now and continues to grow while the console user has stopped growing because kids play on phones and tablets and the ones really into games move to PC. So if kids can handle a PC I'm sure most people are fine and that's exactly how steam grew into the behemoth it is now, PC is not some mysterious esoteric thing if kids can handle it just fine.

The future is the present: mobile gaming and second to that PC. Consoles are not attracting new users like they used to, because why would they when a kid has all he needs as soon as his parents buy him a tablet.

Gen Z are worse at using PCs than millenials

Blame Chromebooks in schools and iPads at home

Back when I was in high school everyone used Windows PCs

The Smartphone Generation Needs Computer Help

Young people may be expert social-media and smartphone users, but many lack the digital skills they need for today’s jobs. How can we set them up for success?

www.theatlantic.com

Gen Z workers are not tech-savvy in the workplace – and it's a growing problem

Gen Z may have grown up with instant access to information, and an affinity with digital devices, that older generations had to learn. But that has led to a widespread presumption that they're therefore innately good with tech.

www.worklife.news

 

[ecosse_011172]

But I'll never leave the convenience of the PC. It's way too precious.

No-one is asking you to, it's not a zero sum game.
For you, it's convenient, for other it's not whether you insist on believing that your platform is perfect in every way or not.

 

[Fahdis]

The PC is the platform and you know it.
The whole PCMR is so incredibly cringeworthy.

Say what you want, you're just a fool married to his system.

https://www.reddit.com/r/consolerepair

Not gonna post 10/20 posts for you, lol

 

[ecosse_011172]

Say what you want, you're just a fool married to his system.

https://www.reddit.com/r/consolerepair

Not gonna post 10/20 posts for you, lol

You're the one that happily spends hours tinkering, has a childlike fanboy zealotry yet I'm the one married to their system?
Which one btw?

 

[Fahdis]

You're the one that happily spends hours tinkering, has a childlike fanboy zealotry yet I'm the one married to their system?
Which one btw?

When its required. Usually its just:

1080P > 4K
Ultra or High
DLSS Quality for SP or DLSS Ultra Performance for MP.

Oh no 3 clicks. I wasted my life and again no fanboyism for a platform. I could care less about where I play my games. Infact, I advocate the Cloud even more.

 

[ecosse_011172]

2. I tinker alot.

When its required. Usually its just:

1080P > 4K
Ultra or High
DLSS Quality for SP or DLSS Ultra Performance for MP.

Oh no 3 clicks. I wasted my life and again no fanboyism for a platform. I could care less about where I play my games. Infact, I advocate the Cloud even more.

Can't even get your story straight.

So you care a lot? cool.

 

[ecosse_011172]

So this is how Nintendo fans act when they get moderately competent hardware lol. Not going to lie Nintendo fans have become a little insufferable, they can see no wrong in the company and will cheerlead like no other. Personally I'm very dissapointed in Sony and am considering moving to PC and I can admit their mistakes but goodluck finding any Nintendo fans being reasonable or impartial.

Nintendo is doing well but taking over the homeconsole market...what? They have the handheld market in their grip which they can leverage somewhat as a homeconsole but it's definitely not what it's primary strength is.

Fanboys describing others as "insufferable".

PriMarySTRength

 

[Fahdis]

Can't even get your story straight.

So you care a lot? cool.

"When its required". You have reading comprehension don't you. Anyways, I'm sure you're a good dude. We can agree to disagree homie. At the end I decided to go the PC route because it lets me afford games and not pay for live internet services. I don't look down at people but definitely at consoles. Ive had all the PS Consoles until 5. Switched to PC and I'm happy here with my DS4 and Windows OS with Steam on it.

 

[ecosse_011172]

"When its required". You have reading comprehension don't you. Anyways, I'm sure you're a good dude. We can agree to disagree homie. At the end I decided to go the PC route because it lets me afford games and not pay for live internet services. I don't look down at people but definitely at consoles. Ive had all the PS Consoles until 5. Switched to PC and I'm happy here with my DS4 and Windows OS with Steam on it.

It must be required a lot following your logic..
I'm glad you're happy with your gaming setup, as am I but "looking down" on consoles? Dear oh dear..

 

[Paasei]

No idea, missing the context on what you see as "traditional console war". Don't really care, regardless. I want a Switch 2 should it ever get an OLED model.
I'll have plenty to play on PC and PS5 until then.

 

[Buggy Loop]

Lmao, people like this are the ones that flip out the hardest when it eventually happens. And it will

Flip out? In my post I say I would like Nintendo to be multiplatform, and I have a PC. It's just never gonna happen with Nintendo. The rest of your posts throughout this thread reads like you escaped the hellhole of YouTube comments or gamefaq, what a shit poster

 

[Fahdis]

It must be required a lot following your logic..
I'm glad you're happy with your gaming setup, as am I but "looking down" on consoles? Dear oh dear..

 

[Fahdis]

Flip out? In my post I say I would like Nintendo to be multiplatform, and I have a PC. It's just never gonna happen with Nintendo. The rest of your posts throughout this thread reads like you escaped the hellhole of YouTube comments or gamefaq, what a shit poster

No you didnt you absolute nonce every reaction is of you basically sniffing the plumbers asshole like its your cocaine. NINTENDO WON'T. Oh they will. Just wait. And no one gives a shit outside of you or whatever your alt is replying back to me about my posts. Basically, you're a hypocrite or disingenuous at best. Tell me how you really feel .

 

[ecosse_011172]

No you didnt you absolute nonce every reaction is of you basically sniffing the plumbers asshole like its your cocaine. NINTENDO WON'T. Oh they will. Just wait. And no one gives a shit outside of you or whatever your alt is replying back to me about my posts. Basically, you're a hypocrite or disingenuous at best. Tell me how you really feel .

 

[Buggy Loop]

No you didnt you absolute nonce

Poll  Post in thread 'Did Nintendo won the traditional console war?'

Aug 7, 2025

It ll be a fun day when Nintendo start doing multiplat, just give them time.

Nintendo will never chase « trends ». They would make exclusive games on an alarm clock before 3rd party

And don't get me wrong, I would love Nintendo games outside their hardware, just ain't seeing it happening in my lifetime

• Buggy Loop

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"And don't get me wrong, I would love Nintendo games outside their hardware, just ain't seeing it happening in my lifetime"

Are you fucking retarded? Yes yes you are

every reaction is of you basically sniffing the plumbers asshole like its your cocaine. NINTENDO WON'T.

Are you even for real? I have been one of the biggest PC advocate on this site you stupid fuck. Clearly you were a dormant alt because clearly for someone that came in 2018, apparently PC gamer to not have seen my posts you would have to be fucking blind.

Oh they will. Just wait. And no one gives a shit outside of you or whatever your alt is replying back to me about my posts. Basically, you're a hypocrite or disingenuous at best. Tell me how you really feel .

My alt? LOL

I have been here since gaming age 1999, never had an alt. Why would I?

Ask Evilore to sniff out this thread if I have an alt, you want to ban bet it?

Truely one of the stupidest poster I've seen in 2025. You won't last long

 

[DntMesArnd]

The console wars only exists in people's heads. So only you can decide who won.

The manufacturers aren't playing the console wars. They are running businesses.

They have different metrics they are trying to achieve quarterly, along with long term and short term goals. A lot of the stuff talked about on this board isn't what they are trying to achieve.

Although this forum has hard core gamers, they are marketing for the whole gaming spectrum. It's starting to look like Sony and Microsoft are pivoting strategy away from what ticks the box for success for most people on this site.

Personally I think both companies are moving towards gaming becoming a service, not a physical product. I'm guessing the next gen will be the last for physical hardware, like it or not.

Let's see if the market agrees.

 

[Fahdis]

Poll  Post in thread 'Did Nintendo won the traditional console war?'

Aug 7, 2025

It ll be a fun day when Nintendo start doing multiplat, just give them time.

Nintendo will never chase « trends ». They would make exclusive games on an alarm clock before 3rd party

And don't get me wrong, I would love Nintendo games outside their hardware, just ain't seeing it happening in my lifetime

• Buggy Loop

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"And don't get me wrong, I would love Nintendo games outside their hardware, just ain't seeing it happening in my lifetime"

Are you fucking retarded? Yes yes you are



Are you even for real? I have been one of the biggest PC advocate on this site you stupid fuck. Clearly you were a dormant alt because clearly for someone that came in 2018, apparently PC gamer to not have seen my posts you would have to be fucking blind.



My alt? LOL

I have been here since gaming age 1999, never had an alt. Why would I?

Ask Evilore to sniff out this thread if I have an alt, you want to ban bet it?

Truely one of the stupidest poster I've seen in 2025. You won't last long

Lmao, please get anger therapy. You're literally asking for it . Plus, your profane language and constant projection tells me how crazy you actually are. You can keep the stupidest poster title for yourself, I however have some standards with language. Btw, the Alt I was reffering to is your pal I quoted which was also hyperbole. Get a grip. Its a gaming forum. Hahaha.

 

[ecosse_011172]

Lmao, please get anger therapy. You're literally asking for it . Plus, your profane language and constant projection tells me how crazy you actually are. You can keep the stupidest poster title for yourself, I however have some standards with language. Btw, the Alt I was reffering to is your pal I quoted which was also hyperbole. Get a grip. Its a gaming forum. Hahaha.

No anger here, just amusement.

 

[Fahdis]

No anger here, just amusement.

All good bud. All good. I don't really have issues with you.

 

[ecosse_011172]

All good bud. All good. I don't really have issues with you.

 

[Gameplay Gods Bless]

You are mixing Steam growth with PC growth - it's not the same things. Steam keeps converting PC userbase into their own ecosystem - it doesn't mean that PC gaming get more users. It s.just existing users go onto platform. And yes, PC gaming historically had a huge number of users those don't pay much though.


PC doesn't show real growth.
Just because Steam numbers now counting tens of millions Chinese (who were already on PC, just not on Steam) doesn't mean that it get better ground in let's say western countries.

Nah PC gaming is still growing in users there was a thread about this a bit ago here on Gaf. It was from the same analyst who reported console growth stagnated.

 

[LordOcidax]

You are listing Switch 2 games. So you basically validate my point, as I was talking about Switch 1.

The first Switch was too weak and didn't receive big third party games, and the few ones were absolutely butchered. Years later, you are finally receiving some ports, and they still run largely below what we had on release date on proper, traditional consoles.

Switch 2 will be the same story. Inferior ports until they don't bother porting at all. And we are already seeing this, because current late ports are all PS4 games. As soon as a game will start entirely skipping PS4, they will also skip Switch 2. This is already happening, the vast majority of the big third party games announced recently are skipping Switch 2. And if they eventually come, it will be later and a largely inferior version.

Examples ?
Silent Hill f
Pragmata
Resident Evil Requiem
Code Vein 2
Ninja Gaiden 4
etc...

Keep your expectations in check.

This comment is aging like milk.

 

[cireza]

This comment is aging like milk.

No, this comment is being validated by everything that is happening, without much surprise.

The vast majority of big releases are skipping the console, and those that make it are inferior versions. Low res, low fps etc...

 

[Felessan]

This comment is aging like milk.

Out of ~20 trailers for games I saw today, Switch version planned for 3 and all of them are Capcom games
Even simpler graphics games like out of world, 7 deadly sins and 2xko are skipping. More games going to the deadbox than to switch2

 

[Skifi28]

This comment is aging like milk.

Did we read the same post?

 

[Lokaum D+]

Yeah, third party support seens bleak atm, 90% of the upcoming games dont have a SW2 version.

Also, the major releases of this and least year arent on SW2, lets see how next year ll be or If SW2 ll be a ndie machine again.

 

[LordOcidax]

No, this comment is being validated by everything that is happening, without much surprise.

The vast majority of big releases are skipping the console, and those that make it are inferior versions. Low res, low fps etc...

From the list that you made, the 2 biggest titles are going to have day 1 release on Switch 2 the others 2 are going to be announced for Switch 2 too at some point… The same is going to happen with the new games announced a the Game Awards, like Tomb Raiders and the big games, eventually are going to be announced for Switch 2… Your comment aged like the milk.

 

[RoboFu]

Of course Nintendo always wins.

 

[Lokaum D+]

From the list that you made, the 2 biggest titles are going to have day 1 release on Switch 2 the others 2 are going to be announced for Switch 2 too at some point… The same is going to happen with the new games announced a the Game Awards, like Tomb Raiders and the big games, eventually are going to be announced for Switch 2… Your comment aged like the milk.

 

[LordOcidax]

I remember reading the same thing when i predicted ports for Cyberpunk and Final Fantasy 7 remake for the Switch 2…

 

[Felessan]

The same is going to happen with the new games announced a the Game Awards, like Tomb Raiders and the big games, eventually are going to be announced for Switch 2…

Maybe. Or maybe not.
It's just a wishfull thinking now.

 

[Lightbreak]

Troll thread detected

 

[Denorion]

Honest question, is the switch 2 that underpowered, or the lack of third party support is the result of Nintendo being stingy with the Dev Kits?

 

[PeteBull]

Honest question, is the switch 2 that underpowered, or the lack of third party support is the result of Nintendo being stingy with the Dev Kits?

 

[blacktout]

Honest question, is the switch 2 that underpowered, or the lack of third party support is the result of Nintendo being stingy with the Dev Kits?

I mean, we've seen Assassin's Creed Shadows and Star Wars Outlaws running on the system, both demanding current-gen-only open world games that were initially designed without the Switch 2 in mind, and we've also seen third party announcements steadily increasing as the year has gone on, so I think it's pretty clear that the answer is the latter. There were reports that many developers didn't have devkits even after the system had already released.

I'm not sure whether this was some benighted attempt at quality control or a cost-cutting measure or Nintendo trying to protect their own software sales at launch or something else entirely, but it has definitely lead to some games that absolutely should be on the platform being no-shows so far.

 

[cireza]

From the list that you made, the 2 biggest titles are going to have day 1 release on Switch 2 the others 2 are going to be announced for Switch 2 too at some point… The same is going to happen with the new games announced a the Game Awards, like Tomb Raiders and the big games, eventually are going to be announced for Switch 2… Your comment aged like the milk.

My comment was not simply about games not coming to the console. If you had read it, you would have noted it was also about how these ports, the few instances when they will happen, will be largely inferior experiences.

 

[Tiago Rodrigues]

What was there to win?
Playstation is on its way to another console above 120M units sold (2nd best selling console ever for them) and the generation already made Sony more money than all previous gens...together.

Nintendo is doing amazing as well.

Why can't you be happy that we have 2 brands of consoles doing good? One brand only would be devastating lol.

In a way Playstation and Nintendo complement each other so it's good they are both thriving.

Let's just say no one does consoles like the japanese and be done with this.

 

[lh032]

devs are skipping switch 2 because the hardware unable to handle the new games.

 

[Felessan]

devs are skipping switch 2 because the hardware unable to handle the new games.

It's seems more linked to lack of target playerbase and cost of porting to arm don't justify it.

The fact that f2p games skipping platform en masse tells that they not see enough teen/adult playerbase, as those games usually try to get as wide coverage as possible, given dev resources restrictions.

 

[Angry_Megalodon]

It's seems more linked to lack of target playerbase and cost of porting to arm don't justify it.

The fact that f2p games skipping platform en masse tells that they not see enough teen/adult playerbase, as those games usually try to get as wide coverage as possible, given dev resources restrictions.

I think Infinity Nikki or Arknights would find a large audience in Switch, but those are too demanding on the technical side.

 

[Lokaum D+]

I remember reading the same thing when i predicted ports for Cyberpunk and Final Fantasy 7 remake for the Switch 2…

i hope you are right cause at the moment we have

No Baldurs Gate 3
No Silent Hill 2
No Metaphor
No Space Marines 2
No Indiana Jones
No FF7 Rebirth
No KCD2
No E33
No DS2
No Doom
No Metal Gear
No Oblivion
( most this games "runs" on Steamdek/XSS )

I can keep going and going, but i think i've made my point clear, Nintendo really needs to send more dev kits out there if they are looking to increase they third party support

 

[Witchilich]

Playstation is on its way to another console above 120M units sold (2nd best selling console ever for them) and the generation already made Sony more money than all previous gens...together.

Would be wild for Playstation 6 with the handheld version. 120 million + handheld sells.

 

[Celine]

No Indiana Jones

Arriving in the coming months (won't be the last Bethesda game landing on NS2 either):

No FF7 Rebirth

Whole FF7 Remake trilogy is coming to Nintendo Switch 2:

Stuff like Silent Hill 2 is obviously coming (Bloober Team is a supporter from the first hour with Cronos and Konami is fully behind NS2).
NS2 was available on the market for just six months now.

 

[MrCunningham]

The victor of the 9th gen console war basically be like...

- The Nintendo Switch 1 transcends both the 8th and 9th console generations, with the Switch 2 just carrying on it's legacy with better hardware. These devices are handheld hybrids, and not really dedicated gaming consoles.
- Nobody really knows what is going on with the Xbox Series X and S and it is also being outsold by the Nex Playground
- Sony is just kinda hanging in there with the PS5..
- We have all of these PC hardware manufacturers trying to get into the market with their own 'PC' handhelds like the Asus ROG Xbox Ally X
- There's Valve whose treading the waters lightly with the Steam Deck and preparing their upcoming Steam Machine

By logic, Sony won this console generation. Even though Nintendo has been dominating the market with the Switch. I think Switch 2 sales are doing well enough, but even this has been in a bit of a sales slump in recent months according to some online sources.