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[LordOcidax]

Nintendo couldn't compete since the mid 2000s, and ran away to their little corner, creating systems for people that don't play video games and children. That ain't winning anything. That's running away like a little pussy

Nintendo is about to have the best selling console ever, best reviewed games and the best selling first party games… I think that they are going to be ok .

 

[jm89]

 

[TheMan]

Sort of? They haven't really been playing the same game for a long time though . They do their own thing bolstered largely by their own IP

 

[Kacho]

Obviously. For years gamers said Nintendo's pivot away from the hardware race was a bad move, that they were bowing out. Look at them now. Smartest move of all time.

Meanwhile, Sony is slowly but surely following Microsoft's lead because the end game is the same for both of them. Those 300 million dollar budgets did a number on HD consoles. Yikes.

 

[SILKYSMOOTH30FPS]

Nintendo is about to have the best selling console ever, best reviewed games and the best selling first party games… I think that they are going to be ok .

It won't even come close to Switch sales.

 

[Fess]

Who cares? Didn't stop RE4 and Metroid Prime blowing away anything on PS2

That's a matter of taste but the small discs likely stopped several games from SquareEnix and Rockstar etc from coming to the system.

 

[BennyBlanco]

- best and most productive first party
- most popular IP
- sell the most hardware
- Switch sold 140M~ on the strength of their own first party. Nobody else could do this. They are basically self sustaining.
- Bullied competitors out of Japan. Now any game aimed at that market is going to be on Switch.
- Don't chase trends and still down to get weird

Yeah I would say they won.

Ask yourself if you could see multiple theme parks across the world filled with Aloy, Nathan Drake, and Ellie.

 

[LordOcidax]

It won't even come close to Switch sales.

Im talking about Switch 1…

 

[TheTony316]

Nintendo left the "traditional" console war with the Switch.

 

[SILKYSMOOTH30FPS]

Im talking about Switch 1…

It's an old ass system from 2017 that could barely run anything. It selling well is good new for shareholder, though. Are you one?

 

[LordOcidax]

It's an old ass system from 2017 that could barely run anything. It selling well is good new for shareholder, though. Are you one?

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

Sony beat your Xbox and Nintendo beat Sony.

 

[Sooner]

Nintendo has had seven home consoles prior to the new Switch 2. Total sales - 433 million (86.6 million per generation)

PlayStation has had five home consoles (including current gen in progress) - Total sales - 547 million (Average - 109.4 million per generation)

Xbox has had four home consoles (including current gen). Total sales - 194 million (Average- 48.5 per generation)

 

[Fake]

If you are a fanboy, yes.

 

[LordOcidax]

Nintendo has had seven home consoles prior to the new Switch 2. Total sales - 433 million (86.6 million per generation)

PlayStation has had five home consoles (including current gen in progress) - Total sales - 547 million (Average - 109.4 million per generation)

Xbox has had four home consoles (including current gen). Total sales - 194 million (Average- 48.5 per generation)

Lets pretend that handheld consoles never happened…

 

[SILKYSMOOTH30FPS]

Exactly, it didn't win, and Travolta is like WTF, where is the win at?

 

[Sooner]

Lets pretend that handheld consoles never happened…

No one is debating Nintendo hasn't won the handheld market. But, Sony barely competed and Microsoft literally never released a handheld.

We could also compare how third-party games sell, which is a bigger factor than hardware sales. Nintendo is even behind Xbox there and not even in the same league as Sony.

 

[Roni]

Hindsight is 20/20 and, in hindsight, Nintendo clearly saw that placing graphical fidelity at the helm was a mistake. 4 consoles later and they don't have the same problems the other competitors have while still doing the same thing they've always done: building consoles and selling software for said console. I'm not a Nintendo gamer, I don't even own a Nintendo console; but I'd say they definitely are ahead now.

It's Microsoft and Sony going after what Nintendo's doing. Not the other way around...

 

[ungalo]

Objectively probably yes, they're probably going to be the last traditional console maker on the market in the end. As far as i'm concerned they've been making shit games for a while now and that's the only thing i care about. I don't celebrate commercial success.

 

[Sooner]

Hindsight is 20/20 and, in hindsight, Nintendo clearly saw that placing graphical fidelity at the helm was a mistake. 4 consoles later and they don't have the same problems the other competitors have while still doing the same thing they've always done. Building consoles and selling software for said console.

They sell first-party software. Compare how the big AAA games sell on Nintendo hardware though.

The point is they are mainly going after two different markets, making it silly to claim one the winner. Both Sony and Nintendo are doing extremely well with their target audiences.

 

[bender]

Nintendo couldn't compete since the mid 2000s, and ran away to their little corner, creating systems for people that don't play video games and children. That ain't winning anything. That's running away like a little pussy

 

[Roni]

They sell first-party software. Compare how the big AAA games sell on Nintendo hardware though.

The point is they are mainly going after two different markets, making it silly to claim one the winner. Both Sony and Nintendo are doing extremely well with their target audiences.

Microsoft releasing a handheld, and making efforts to fit Windows in those handhelds, alongside rumors that Sony is making a handheld next generation make me see it differently. They don't see a future where they're at now and they need to move...

 

[tanners]

Wot is a console war exactly?If you mean fanboy compete each over, then yes

 

[LordOcidax]

Hindsight is 20/20 and, in hindsight, Nintendo clearly saw that placing graphical fidelity at the helm was a mistake. 4 consoles later and they don't have the same problems the other competitors have while still doing the same thing they've always done: building consoles and selling software for said console. I'm not a Nintendo gamer, I don't even own a Nintendo console; but I'd say they definitely are ahead now.

It's Microsoft and Sony going after what Nintendo's doing. Not the other way around...

 

[ShadyAcshuns]

Both Nintendo and Microsoft lost the traditional console war with Play Station the last one standing. Nintendo won the video game industry war.

 

[Gambit2483]

Both Nintendo and Microsoft lost the traditional console war with Play Station the last one standing. Nintendo won the video game industry war.

 

[Ozzie666]

Worldwide it seems so, I would still consider Playstation a very successful brand outside of Japan. But if you consider PS and Xbox to be the traditional graphic chasing power house strategy, then yes. Nintendo's decision to focus on cheaper less powerful hardware has paid off. Combining their console and handheld development pipelines was also highly impactful for them. People hate Nintendo, but they protect their IPs and pricing to maintain value. Nintendo is often generations behind and taking up things like subscriptions or microtransactions.

I do wish we could get a GBA or 3DS style handheld with games tailored to that experience.

 

[Bonfires Down]

Sony is stepping aside? They may be putting some games on other platforms, but they won't do anything that meaningfully harms their console business.

Microsoft might have lost traditional consoles, yes. I'm sure they are crying all the way to the bank.

 

[DenchDeckard]

Just get a PS5 and stop being weird

Im talking about the future. I've got a ps5 pro.

 

[cireza]

All big third party games are skipping?

Yes, that's what I wrote.

 

[DeVeAn]

So you're saying SEGA has an opportunity to comeback to hardware to put a fire underneath Nintendos ass? Wouldn't that complete the universe

 

[Lord Malachite]

Doesn't really feel like a simply Yes/No question. What even is a "traditional game console" anymore. PlayStation has been a multimedia system since the PS2, Xbox since its original release, and Nintendo since the Wii.

Xbox has effectively gone third party and has turned their hardware into nothing more than a cheap, affordable way to get GamePass into your home.

PlayStation doesn't seem to have cemented approach, trying to be a major first party player on the one hand while embracing the PC market much harder with the other. And now they're even discussing multiplatform releases.

Nintendo gave up on "traditional consoles" after the WiiU flopped and went to what amounts to a portable only system that you can hook up to your TV should you desire. It reminds me a bit of hooking the PSP up to the TV back in the day, only it's a smoother. more natural experience. Some would argue that Nintendo gave up on the "Traditional console market" generations ago and went full on niche--often to their great success (Wii, DS, Switch) and occasionally to their detriment (WiiU).

I don't know what "winning the traditional console war" even looks like anymore, because the days of a platform holder folding like Sega, Atari, 3DO, etc. are long over. They just evolve into a different form than hardware.

 

[Madjaba]

I don't know if Nintendo is winning but players are clearly losing right now.

This generation is one of the shittiest ever with remakes of last generation games, F2P and GAAS everywhere, 6+ years development cycle for every AA+ games and poor project management. It's saved by Indies mostly and some pleasant surprises but it's mid at best for a few years now.

 

[SentientStone]

任天堂 sent them both to heaven.

 

[RetroGamingUK]

I don't know if Nintendo is winning but players are clearly losing right now.

This generation is one of the shittiest ever with remakes of last generation games, F2P and GAAS everywhere, 6+ years development cycle for every AA+ games and poor project management. It's saved by Indies mostly and some pleasant surprises but it's mid at best for a few years now.

Nintendo players clearly aren't losing