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Digital Foundry: Horizon Zero Dawn Remastered - PS5 DF Tech Review - Is The Upgrade Worthwhile?
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Talk about selling it short. Lighting has changed, shadows, shader models have changed, cloud, water, pretty much everything other than the source material.
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Shaki12345
Neo Member
Because most people don't care.
Fake
Member
People care about Until Dawn.
mayham2199
Member
It is impressive that so much work went into it, but still
Well it was (and possibly still is) getting a TV Show. They want all their games to be updated for that sort of stuff so that when people play it (because they watched the show) they are truly impressed by how good it is. Sony wants anyone who is playing these games because they watched the TV Show\Movie to truly be impressed and possibly try out more games.
Killjoy-NL
Member
If you already own the game, it's just €10.
If you never bought the game, it isn't full priced.
Absolutely no idea what the issue is? It's like people are trying to come up with the most petty complaints every other day.
Bojji
Gold Member
They also increased price of PS4 version before releasing this.
Mr.Phoenix
Member
It is worth $70 if you have never bought the game and have never played it. I don't know why people do this... if you have the game already, then its worth $10. At least that I agree with.
The smart thing for any new buyer would be to just buy the complete edition for $40 and then pay for the $10 upgrade separately. If they were luck they could have bought it when it cost $20 or whatever before its price hike.
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Shaki12345
Neo Member
Until Dawn isn't The Last Guardian. Until Dawn has a movie.
Killjoy-NL
Member
Different matter.
Fake
Member
I don't think so. If $10 can be a pro, increasing the price of PS4 can be a cons.
Bojji
Gold Member
They did it so that people that didn't bought it couldn't get it cheaper than official PS5 version using PS4 version + upgrade.
Mr Moose
Member
They gave the complete edition away for free to everyone who wanted it.
Play at Home 2021 update: 10 free games to download this Spring
Download free indie games and PS VR games starting March 25. And get ready: PS4 blockbuster Horizon Zero Dawn will be free for a limited time starting April 19.
blog.playstation.com
If you didn't pick it up then, that's a you problem.
Killjoy-NL
Member
Yes, but we were discussing Horizon ZD Remastered.
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Jibran#one
Member
Why does this exist god knows why ,
I've played horizon have a pretty good idea how it looked what the story was
There are so many ipz of Sony that they can remaster
Like jak and daxter , killzone to name a few.
10 dollars or 70 dollars this was just not needed
I've played horizon have a pretty good idea how it looked what the story was
There are so many ipz of Sony that they can remaster
Like jak and daxter , killzone to name a few.
10 dollars or 70 dollars this was just not needed
Fake
Member
They gave the complete edition away for free to everyone who wanted it.
If you didn't pick it up then, that's a you problem.Play at Home 2021 update: 10 free games to download this Spring
Download free indie games and PS VR games starting March 25. And get ready: PS4 blockbuster Horizon Zero Dawn will be free for a limited time starting April 19.
I got the game day one WTF are you talking about?
Mr Moose
Member
I'm talking in general.
Fake
Member
To the discussion is still a cons bro. The thing you mention can be add to the pros list.
Kataploom
Gold Member
I'm not talking about a technical perspective, but an artistic one, I normally hate Horizon lighting style and now it looks even less natural imo, more "photo booth"-like
midnightAI
Member
And how long would it take to remaster those games with zero useable assets or code? Which game engine would they use? How many people would it take and how long compared to remastering Horizon that can use assets, engine, code from ZD and FW?
LordNerevar76
Neo Member
Definitely thinking about replaying, but it's tough because possibly my favorite part of the game were the lore/story reveals. Obviously can't experience that twice.
dreamstation
Member
Haven't played the game since release in 2017? so will be all over the remaster especially for only $15 AUD
dreamstation
Member
I'd love to know what games the people play that think Horizon is a bad game/franchise. Bet there would be some turds show up.
saintjules
Gold Member
Brokie mentality. You can do doordash and make $10 within 2 order deliveries.
Bojji
Gold Member
The best thing about the first game was backstory, this was the biggest motivator to finish the game. Gameplay is above average. Second game has much weaker story and about the same level of gameplay (maybe a bit better?). What kept me playing there was eye candy and of course I wanted to know how story will end (despite it being much weaker).
Radical_3d
Member
I play some serious trash tier games but I’m not evangelising over here about them. That’s the difference. Knowing that you’re munching poo.
Isn’t it super late for euroGAF to be up? I thought I was the only one here who’s lost control of his life.
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Bojji
Gold Member
I have night shift today, it's currently 3:00. But I always prefer night...
Radical_3d
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CamHostage
Member
I wish Sony still felt the same way about Twisted Metal.
March Climber
Gold Member
In the video they even show the character models moving around more dynamically and emoting during dialogue scenes vs the original where it seems more static.
CamHostage
Member
...And what would they sell?
I personally believe a good J&D remaster and a Killzone 2 redo could catch a good deal of nostalgia sales (and Bloodborne is way overdue, even if the original was only a fan-fave seller,) but there's not mountains of gold to mine anymore in all these old games that GAFers remember but the average game-buyer would need convincing to care about. The quick remaster era has cooled off a lot (despite the tech being easier than ever; the Jak decompile is awesome and Sony could potentially co-opt it like CD did OpenLara.) These re-release productions need to be carefully reconsidered for feasibility and cost, and they need to be strategic for the given franchise. There is no Jak or Killzone TV show/movie being produced, no sequel games being made by the developers, so not much reason to do it.
HelveticaBold
Neo Member
It looks great but how much better will it look on the Pro? Will it have similar upgrades as Forbidden West?
nowhat
Gold Member
Nah, it's simple, you just need a serious brain injury.
midnightAI
Member
Killzone and J&D? Probably not that many if I'm to be honest (and I love both franchises). But the fact is, this Horizon remaster would have been made by very few people, would have cost very little to make and would have taken max1-2 years to make.
We know there are loads of games to remaster/remake out there, but a lot of these are old games, they would need to pretty much be made from scratch so would take almost as long as making any new game (much longer than it took them to make ZD Remaster). Demons Souls took Bluepoint what? 4-5 years to make?
This was made by Nixxes, they were bought to do PC ports and remasters, not to do full blown remakes (currently), they have done exactly what they were bought to do, it's not wasting anyone's time and it's not stopping Sony from doing remakes with a different studio. They will also have done two PC ports within 12 months while also making the ZD Remaster.
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CompleteGlobalSaturation
Member
This project is an utter waste of time and resources.
There was no reason to remaster the original Horizon, which already looks like a very good game graphically.
There was no reason to remaster the original Horizon, which already looks like a very good game graphically.
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HeWhoWalks
Gold Member
I ask myself this every time you post.