huffster999
Neo Member
Haven't played the Metro games but do they have an online mode? because if not the cost of PSN is a redundant point in this thread
Digital Foundry vs Metro Redux
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Haven't played the Metro games but do they have an online mode? because if not the cost of PSN is a redundant point in this thread
PS + games are not free, the moment you stop paying you can't play em anymore. it's a long time rent. And with humble bundle/steam sale I don't see paying 350$ for 90 games a great deal really when you get this for a fraction of the cost and you get to keep em forever.
The bold part is just not true, miss informed much. Just take a 2006 rig (gt 8800) it still plays games better then the old gen of console. "most people spend more money per year in gaming PC that most users will spend in a console life." If you really think it's true then you are out of touch with reality. There are the enthusiastic that spend a lot, but even on overclock.net where just about anyone is an enthusiastic it's more of an exception then a norm.
The point I was trying to make is that the 400$ machine isn't 400$ and you are done. There is much more to it then that. paying to play online and paying 10--20$ per game is A LOT and none of you seem to take it into consideration when you talk about it.
I don't think any pc user will be jealous about consoles if their games run at rock solid 1080p@60fps 4 years ago.
Cthulhu_Steev
Member
You do know which one you find saddest, Feindflug, and it's the one that perhaps says something good about Sony.
See! I remembered your post history without even searching!
You don't need to dig if the poster has said something memorably stupid, but it's always good to check your source just in case it's wrong before accusing somebody, I feel. I'm confident I'm remembering your post history correctly though. As you were, soldier.
60 fps that is great news.
To the people complaining about the 12p increase...yeah it's strange as hell. I think we're safe to assume that pre gpu return the framerate might not have been so locked down. So great work 4a! effing great.
To the people complaining and drawing parallels to Destiny and Diablo? Seriously?
30 fps vs 60fps. There is a huge gulf in power required right there and add to the fact that Destiny isn't really a graphical marvel. That game is definitely done with last gen in mind. No matter what any snake oil salesperson says. Not much to discuss about it, just a fact that it isn't flexing any muscle, fun but not a show horse in anyway.
And Diablo, Consider the fact that Blizzard can get it to run on potato powered laptop the shame would be on them if they couldn't get it to run at 60fps/1080p or it would just show that they really didn't care about the consoles compared to their PC offering. Which is true. get your act together on WoW Blizzard, people leave when the content in low and suddenly come back when there is new, see the correlation?
EDIT: At work so thread kinda jumped a few pages before reply but anyway:
Offtopic: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=89596554&postcount=1654
3 months is nothing.
To the people complaining about the 12p increase...yeah it's strange as hell. I think we're safe to assume that pre gpu return the framerate might not have been so locked down. So great work 4a! effing great.
To the people complaining and drawing parallels to Destiny and Diablo? Seriously?
30 fps vs 60fps. There is a huge gulf in power required right there and add to the fact that Destiny isn't really a graphical marvel. That game is definitely done with last gen in mind. No matter what any snake oil salesperson says. Not much to discuss about it, just a fact that it isn't flexing any muscle, fun but not a show horse in anyway.
And Diablo, Consider the fact that Blizzard can get it to run on potato powered laptop the shame would be on them if they couldn't get it to run at 60fps/1080p or it would just show that they really didn't care about the consoles compared to their PC offering. Which is true. get your act together on WoW Blizzard, people leave when the content in low and suddenly come back when there is new, see the correlation?
And y2kev I think what you're looking for is dyscalculia.
EDIT: At work so thread kinda jumped a few pages before reply but anyway:
Offtopic: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=89596554&postcount=1654
3 months is nothing.
LittleJohnny
Banned
4A used the June XDK update just to reach 912p. I think that's as far as it will go for the XB1 for Metro Redux. All in all though, I'm glad they managed to hit a rock solid 60FPS.
Great job 4A!
Keep in mind that other 60fps XBO games have had to resort to 720p in order to hit that coveted framerate. 900p/60 is pretty awesome considering the engine and LOD.
Kssio_Aug
Member
This cheap "PCs are superior then consoles hands down" talk give me nausea! If consoles sell what they sell its not because there are millions of dumb people that buy them and you are part of a smart minority, its because there are people that prefer to play on consoles. Period! On consoles developers push the limits of the hardware in a way that they almost never do on PC! Also consoles may have expensive digital content but they're adjusting to the market with some signature options, and on a future I'm sure it will be more balanced (and on Amazon games get cheaper really fast btw).
JumpJeff84
Member
Nice! In played an hour or two of the first game on PC, but I couldn't get a great frame rate on my rig.
Loving the idea of playing this at 60 on PS4.
More 60fps please!
Loving the idea of playing this at 60 on PS4.
More 60fps please!
Cthulhu_Steev
Member
Yep, great remaster, great price. I have one of these games with PS+, and I'm pretty sure I bought them on Steam as well (and never played any of them) but I preordered this from VG+ when I first heard it was 1080/60, and a significant upgrade from PS3.
Dragonborn
Member
Exactly, the PC can be superior but at the end of the day I'll never be able to play TLOU, UC4, Bloodborne, GT, and GOW (not to mention all the other Sony exclusives) on PC so it's a moot point for me. My PC is alright but probably couldn't run Metro at a constant, solid 60 FPS.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
I commend them for the great work, but "no other" is a bit of a stretch. I feel like about 80% of games I own on PS4 are either 60FPS or at least 35-45FPS affair like Infamous (usually justified by the game looking freaking amazing).
Talented devs with time and money can code to the metals strengths. Really as simple as that.
These conses make simple ports rather easy (generation comparatively), so you'll always have some devs with a cost/benefit saying "good enough" while others dive into the code and put out something special
I've had a ps4 since day one man. I'm online right now playing the last of us. It's one of my favourite games of all time. Your comment is extremely wrong. In my personal opinion ms gas a great year this year and Sony is letting me have a game that was supposed to be out at launch (driveclub) and an up ressed ps3 game for my entire Xmas exclusive. Don't get me started on little big planet 3. I just get wound up at people attacking the one because of its resolution. Like that makes a game great or not, or more importantly less fun. A 900p game just won the siggraph graphics award. One if my other favourite games ever was pretty much og xbox resolution on a 360. I'm derailing the thread. I look forward to all the classic games that might not get sequels because people shit on them before launch about resolution, for the game to ultimately be fantastic. I am majorly salty over the hate Alan wake got. I'd never seen anything like it. People taking pictures of a tractors texture that's in a huge open field to rag on the power of the 360. It's a strange world.
Sorry back on topic. I think it will look amazing on both machines if it keeps that butter locked 60.
AgentOtaku
Member
First game I'm buying when I pick up my white PS4 next month.
In the past, I've already bought Metro on:
Originally PC
Last Light on PS3
And now this on PS4
....and I've never actually beaten any of them, lol
Love supporting these guys anyway
In the past, I've already bought Metro on:
Originally PC
Last Light on PS3
And now this on PS4
....and I've never actually beaten any of them, lol
Love supporting these guys anyway
Summer Haze
Banned
Oh, damn. I said 921? My bad, people. I'll edit my post now.
thank you!
Forceatowulf
G***n S**n*bi
1080p and solid 60fps? Say no more. Consider it bought.
HighResTomato
Member
912p? You being for real, just keep it at 900. Guess if I ever get this game it's going to be on PC.
soulassssns
Banned
What is the topic again junior?
"Digital Foundry vs Metro Redux"
and guess what.... Metro Redux is coming to PC as well.
Pjsprojects
Member
Agreed,a mate of mine has just put his PS4 up for sale after buying an Xbone. He even asked me what res BF4 ran at on both,to which I don't know on Xbone.
legacyzero
Banned
Yep. And with Metro: Last Light being my GOTY last year, I'll be picking this up again. I need money first LOL.
You ruined this thread Lukas
Last Light is teh best FPS ever for me, I haven't palyed 2033 so I can't wait to revisit that wonderfull setting...oh my..
XB1 BF4 is 720p @ 60fps
PS4 BF4 is 900p @ 60fps
I think it's one of only 3 titles that aren't 1080p on PS4 (UFC and Watch Dogs being the others, both run at 900 as well).
1. That is such an ass response.
2. the PC version hasn't been compared yet. So any comparison now is moot. They can Ubisoft the PC version and gone is all the fun, not hoping for it since it'll be where I play it(and hopefully finish it this time around)
3. My penis is way bigger than everyone else.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
I've seen Tomb Raider DE hit $30 digitally and in retail. Actually retail as low as $20 if you go used.
Like anything else, it's going to take time, but it will come.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Those seven years of PS+ at $350 also equate to 504 games to play for free, some of which are on multiple formats, so the number gets even larger! Thanks for pointing out what a super deal that is!
Didn't diablo go to 1080 from 900 as well? I real means more toward being positive than negative anyway because it is an INCREASE of resources and libraries.
Pjsprojects
Member
Thanks,will see what he thinks to that seeing as he's already ordered the Xbone version and had the PS4 version...
BF really struggled to maintain 60fps. Moreso on X1.
megabytecr
Member
Not having a good PC is nice to have a PS4, glad to hear this game has no issues as I plan to get it.
Lmao that is amazing!
ethomaz
Banned
I guess he will noticed the 60fps is not 60fps.... even more in the case of Xbone version... the difference in aliasing is clear too.
Both are blurry due low resolutions.
drotahorror
Member
Very impressed that 4A could get these games to run @ 60fps on both consoles.
midasmulligan
Member
Mad respect for this studio. No bs, no targets, no graphical slight of hand. Just hard work and an ability to release what they announced. Day one for that, good job guys.
You of all the people are calling me a "soldier" plus I also said "memorably stupid" things? lol.
Also don't forget to keep your "sources" updated, in war being prepared is important!
Fbh
Member
I had been thinking about waiting for a price drop on this but the more I read the more it looks like it's worth it to get at launch.
From the other video the graphical update (compared to the last gen console version) looks really big and it seems like Metro 2033 in particular got a ton of gameplay updates.
Plus it's nice seeing a developer promising 60fps and actually delivering locked 60fps.
PS: I don't get the console vs pc argument. Yeah Pc will allways have better hardware and of course Metro redux will be better on Pc if you have a powerful enough PC (I mean, it even supports 4K).
Still, for us people that preffer to play on console it's a nice update in both graphics and gameplay. Metro 2033 in particular seems to be a massive upgrade even compared to the original PC version (not in terms of graphics but in terms of gameplay).
From the other video the graphical update (compared to the last gen console version) looks really big and it seems like Metro 2033 in particular got a ton of gameplay updates.
Plus it's nice seeing a developer promising 60fps and actually delivering locked 60fps.
PS: I don't get the console vs pc argument. Yeah Pc will allways have better hardware and of course Metro redux will be better on Pc if you have a powerful enough PC (I mean, it even supports 4K).
Still, for us people that preffer to play on console it's a nice update in both graphics and gameplay. Metro 2033 in particular seems to be a massive upgrade even compared to the original PC version (not in terms of graphics but in terms of gameplay).
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
More importantly, it's about as good as it needs to be on TVs that practically everyone has. 1080p/60 is where the TVs max out, assuming they've achieved a good image quality too. Of course if someone has a 4K TV, they'll think otherwise, but most people won't have that for many years from now.
OsirisBlack
Banned
Thanks for the link that looks very impressive. I will have to grab this seeing as evolve got pushed back.
I agree completely, I still think Last Light on PC is one of the best looking games out there right now.
Windom Earle
Member
Every locked 60fps game on consoles should be celebrated, I applaud the developers. Already played 2033 and liked it a lot, will probably pick this up on PC later. Seems they put more effort into it than your usual remaster.
And yes, I really expected this to be 30 on consoles. Impressive!
And yes, I really expected this to be 30 on consoles. Impressive!
CouchMaster
Member
First game I'm buying when I pick up my white PS4 next month.
In the past, I've already bought Metro on:
Originally PC
Last Light on PS3
And now this on PS4
....and I've never actually beaten any of them, lol
Love supporting these guys anyway
Same, have 2033 on PC and LL on both PS3 (free PS+ game) and PC, and I'm buying both for PS4 again. Hopefully this time I'll beat both the games.
To the guy above pointing out $50 PS+ price, yeah Metro LL was given away for free at one point.
Portugeezer
Member
You are also being selective, making it seem like the SDK update is more effective than it really is. Bungie specifically said they got help from Microsoft engineers, it wasn't solely a 10% boost to get 1080p.