MS says otherwise -Scorpio is HDMI 2.1
Nick Baker said:On the display output, of course, HDMI 2.0 - we need that for the additional frame-rate for 4K and also HDR and the wide colour gamut
I think dark misspoke.
MS says otherwise -Scorpio is HDMI 2.1
Nick Baker said:On the display output, of course, HDMI 2.0 - we need that for the additional frame-rate for 4K and also HDR and the wide colour gamut
The bigger difference will be what Scorpio can do IN ADDITION to resolution. The RAM, memory bandwidth, and CPU power should make the gap even bigger than what we saw between XB1 and PS4.
XB1 had a better CPU than PS4 but PS4 had a considerable GPU boost. However, both consoles had the same RAM amount and similar memory speeds (although XB1's ESRAM kinda hurt it there).
This will be a big advantage for the Scorpio across the board. CPU, GPU, and memory.
Yeah, I think it's just 2.0 *NOT* 2.1. Was a point of confusion/wrong assumption!Where is this info from? Article mentions HDMI 2.0.
Scorpio is HDMI 2.1
If the PS4 Pro has 8 GB RAM and Scorpio has 12 GB RAM, isn't it more like 33% more RAM?
Reminder that the X1 launched at $499, so MS clearly think it's a consumer-friendly price.
Reminder that the X1 launched at $499, so MS clearly think it's a consumer-friendly price.
I mean.... when people quote their PC performance, they're always talking about ultra(ish) settings. Consoles do not run games at those settings though. They're always turned down quite a bit.
XBox One game are already running at settings lower than PS4 most of the time. At those settings + 6TF.... I dunno. Maybe I can see 4K\60 happening in recent titles. Maybe.
Reminder that the X1 launched at $499, so MS clearly think it's a consumer-friendly price.
If DF predicts $499 price point, I doubt it would be a dollar more than that.
Because it inevitably means that Microsoft should stop their Play Anywhere program which is great for all parties involved. Why would anyone want exclusives? In an ideal world you could also play all Sony and Nintendo exclusives on PC and the world would be better.
GAF isn't 'Sonyland' - and the persecution complex some around here have is tiresome. Things seem more vocal when a company's product has sold (almost?) 60 million units and is outpacing the competition. It was the same when the 360 and Wii were kicking ass.
Haha yup. Those threads and the ones that followed were an absolute fucking embarrassment.All the people saying SonyGAF at the middling impressions, need to look back at Pro reveal threads.
No 4K blu Ray drive, not high enough specs, not real 4K and a sea of other complaints.
This is a much better Reception.
I don't give a shit if games are on PC or not. I just want them to pump out more Microsoft exclusives and they will still be exclusive to me in the same way PS4 exclusives are.
Yeah, I think it's just 2.0 *NOT* 2.1. Was a point of confusion/wrong assumption!
Mid Cycle refresh is pretty much a straight role reversal. Xbox One had 900P vs native 1080p for Sony.
Scorpio has native 4K vs checkboard for PS4 Pro.
And jags aren't even suppose to get to 2.3ghz
It's not a simple jaguar cores in this. They clearly said they spent a lot of time customizing the CPU with AMD. Or else not much work needed if just using Pro CPU
Maybe Scorpio is just not for him. I mean, I actually don't see the point of owning neither a PRO if you have a strong PC nowadays. Except if you're REALLY into some PS4 titltes and have both time and money to afford all of it.
Thing is... we all know MS won't stop releasing their games for UWP. If that makes an Xbox a no-buy, no issue, just move on.
Yep, I think that's exactly right.I was confused when you mentioned it. I don't think there will be any electronic device coming out in 2017 with HDMI 2.1.
Seems like some of you guys need this - https://percentagecalculator.net/
However, potentially the most exciting aspect surrounding the CPU revamp doesn't actually relate to the processor blocks at all, but rather to the GPU command processor - the piece of hardware that receives instructions from the CPU, piping them through to the graphics core.
"We essentially moved Direct3D 12," says Goossen. "We built that into the command processor of the GPU and what that means is that, for all the high frequency API invocations that the games do, they'll all natively implemented in the logic of the command processor - and what this means is that our communication from the game to the GPU is super-efficient."
Processing draw calls - effectively telling the graphics hardware what to draw - is one of the most important tasks the CPU carries out. It can suck up a lot of processor resources, a pipeline that traditionally takes thousands - perhaps hundreds of thousands - of CPU instructions. With Scorpio's hardware offload, any draw call can be executed with just 11 instructions, and just nine for a state change.
"It's a massive win for us and for the developers who've adopted D3D12 on Xbox, they've told us they've been able to cut their CPU rendering overhead by half, which is pretty amazing because now the driver portion of that is such a tiny fraction," adds Goossen.
To be clear, then: Project Scorpio doesn't feature Ryzen cores, but the Xbox team are not so concerned about this. "On the CPU side of things, we could still meet our design goals with the custom changes we made," Kevin Gammill points out. "At the end of the day we are still a consumer product. We want to hit the price-points where consumers want to purchase this. It's about balancing the two."
Maybe to the legally blind, sure.
Since this is a premium product and more of a 4K upgrade over the One S
Yeah, I think it's just 2.0 *NOT* 2.1. Was a point of confusion/wrong assumption!
Probably won't see any real 2.1 devices for a while.
Well there you have it, bigger gap in power than XB1/PS4.Accurate.
How do you calculate 50%?
If the PS4 Pro has 8 GB RAM and Scorpio has 12 GB RAM, isn't it more like 33% more RAM?
People are biased towards what they own already and are easily cornered.
So guys,
What are the odds that Sony will 'announce' the "PS5" this E3, just as Microsoft announced Scorpio? They would only have to drop a few names like 'Zen & Vega based architecture' and 'fully backwards compatible' with PS4 / PS4 pro. They can ride on that hype easily if the "PS5" releases in november 2018. Then it would have been a 5 year cycle as well.
Mid Cycle refresh is pretty much a straight role reversal. Xbox One had 900P vs native 1080p for Sony.
Scorpio has native 4K vs checkboard for PS4 Pro.
Mid Cycle refresh is pretty much a straight role reversal. Xbox One had 900P vs native 1080p for Sony.
Scorpio has native 4K vs checkboard for PS4 Pro.
He is fighting demons.
In all fairness, I don't think that he is dejected about this news.
Seems like he's clutching at straws then. Arguing about difference of a component then using that to make a claim about overall power difference is an impressive error in logic, almost embarrassing seeing how desperately hes trying to avoid meaningful facts for his argument.
He is fighting demons.
In all fairness, I don't think that he is dejected about this news.
So guys,
What are the odds that Sony will 'announce' the "PS5" this E3, just as Microsoft announced Scorpio? They would only have to drop a few names like 'Zen & Vega based architecture' and 'fully backwards compatible' with PS4 / PS4 pro. They can ride on that hype easily if the "PS5" releases in november 2018. Then it would have been a 5 year cycle as well.
(1.33 x 8GB) = 10.64GB. No, it's not just 33% more, haha.
(1.50 x 8GB) = 12GB...aka 50% more.
I think SenjutsuSage will be needing that too 😜😂 😂Sorry, my bad.
PS: Great new avatar.
I'm not sure now - will have info soon!This means no FreeSync though, correct?
So guys,
What are the odds that Sony will 'announce' the "PS5" this E3, just as Microsoft announced Scorpio? They would only have to drop a few names like 'Zen & Vega based architecture' and 'fully backwards compatible' with PS4 / PS4 pro. They can ride on that hype easily if the "PS5" releases in november 2018. Then it would have been a 5 year cycle as well.
God no. I can't do this every yearSo guys,
What are the odds that Sony will 'announce' the "PS5" this E3, just as Microsoft announced Scorpio? They would only have to drop a few names like 'Zen & Vega based architecture' and 'fully backwards compatible' with PS4 / PS4 pro. They can ride on that hype easily if the "PS5" releases in november 2018. Then it would have been a 5 year cycle as well.
So guys,
What are the odds that Sony will 'announce' the "PS5" this E3, just as Microsoft announced Scorpio? They would only have to drop a few names like 'Zen & Vega based architecture' and 'fully backwards compatible' with PS4 / PS4 pro. They can ride on that hype easily if the "PS5" releases in november 2018. Then it would have been a 5 year cycle as well.