This is the big thing that people need to realize. Even though it may make current games look way better and same with multi-platform games, if they don't improve their own exclusive library, I don't think it's going to pan out the way they want it to.
Mmmmmmm
Uh, dumb question but will this be able to play physical copies of X360 games? *cradles copy of Lost Odyessy*
Yeah, I expect some big texture quality differences between the two in certain games.
So guys,
What are the odds that Sony will 'announce' the "PS5" this E3, just as Microsoft announced Scorpio? They would only have to drop a few names like 'Zen & Vega based architecture' and 'fully backwards compatible' with PS4 / PS4 pro. They can ride on that hype easily if the "PS5" releases in november 2018. Then it would have been a 5 year cycle as well.
At $499 Scorpio won't really do anything for Microsoft. Especially when to the average consumer he can get the Pro version of a PS4 cheaper.
I'm still expecting some preemptive price cuts from Sony anyway to not lose their lead.
If Scorpio is $399 and has a Black Friday bundle with a big fall exclusive, then things will be interesting.
This is the big thing that people need to realize. Even though it may make current games look way better and same with multi-platform games, if they don't improve their own exclusive library, I don't think it's going to pan out the way they want it to.
Still mmmmmmmmmWell it does have 4GB more RAM
It would be pretty disappointing if Scorpio didn't have better textures
wishful thinking. companies still want to make money. as long as ps4 is going strong, i wouldnt expect anything new yet
Why do people always expect some kind of magic counter? Sony wont announce shit for another couple of years.
Wouldnt even be suprised if we will see nothing until 2021 or 2022
So guys,
What are the odds that Sony will 'announce' the "PS5" this E3, just as Microsoft announced Scorpio? They would only have to drop a few names like 'Zen & Vega based architecture' and 'fully backwards compatible' with PS4 / PS4 pro. They can ride on that hype easily if the "PS5" releases in november 2018. Then it would have been a 5 year cycle as well.
What I find funny, is that it's now the 2nd time that they "reveal" the Scorpio, and we still don't have any idea of what it looks like.
When you look back at that: https://twitter.com/majornelson/status/304396492314128385?lang=fr
That's pretty funny, yes.
Except that, I'm very interested by the console.
So guys,
What are the odds that Sony will 'announce' the "PS5" this E3, just as Microsoft announced Scorpio? They would only have to drop a few names like 'Zen & Vega based architecture' and 'fully backwards compatible' with PS4 / PS4 pro. They can ride on that hype easily if the "PS5" releases in november 2018. Then it would have been a 5 year cycle as well.
Wasnt the whole point of the PS4Pro to extend the life of the PS4? They even said as much. You're not going to get console announcements two years in a row from Sony. Real life is not a fanboy war.So guys,
What are the odds that Sony will 'announce' the "PS5" this E3, just as Microsoft announced Scorpio? They would only have to drop a few names like 'Zen & Vega based architecture' and 'fully backwards compatible' with PS4 / PS4 pro. They can ride on that hype easily if the "PS5" releases in november 2018. Then it would have been a 5 year cycle as well.
Hell no. These consoles are meant to extend the generation and not just for 3 years.
Yeah, I expect some big texture quality differences between the two in certain games.
I'll eat a fucking feast of crow if Scorpio is $399.
Dude the Scorpio have an OCRX480... And Jag cores... Is better to be more realistic here.
Actually, you're correct. I forgot about the extra gig. Didn't recall what it was used for, though. So even less of a gap
I'll eat a fucking feast of crow if Scorpio is $399.
I still doubt it. Sony skyrocketed ahead this generation by releasing a cheaper console at right around the same time as MS. If they push ahead with an entirely new console this soon, the staggered would release would surely hurt them in the long run.
We're you guys impressed? It seems like a great follow up to the XBOX One. I'm in.
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I watched the video. My takeaway as someone who has no interest in the Xbox brand.
Just like what I felt about PS4Pro, Scorpio feels like Microsoft's original intent for this current gen if there wasn't a need to launch a new hardware back in 2013. Is the upgrade from the original X1 good? Yeah. Will it be a success for them? The nice answer would be 'time will tell' But honestly I don't think it will.
This reminds me of PS2 vs XBox. Microsoft came in to the scene with a more powerful console, yet. Sony's dominance globally couldn't be touched. I bring this up because at the end of the day it's always going to be about these two platforms in a face off. The difference back then from now is that Microsoft can't turn around in a couple years and try to have lightning strike again with a 360. Scorpio is a big play for them. But now the spotlight is back on Sony's response. PlayStation 5.
Sony is also in a position to possibly drop price on Pro, something that isn't going to help the launch of Scorpio.
Microsoft's problem is that they haven't establish a better identity of how they approach games. They still have that shadow of being only popular because of specific titles like Halo, Gears, Forza and their old COD partnership. Even after many exclusives like Sunset Overdrive, Quantum Break and timed exclusives from AAA third party pubs and Indie developers. Still something hasn't clicked for them this gen. Especially since their once super popular shooters started to burn out.
When PS3 was falling behind. Sony kept pushing games as the focus and eventually it pushed them forward to hits we know and love. I know many people have been saying this a lot lately. But Microsoft really needs to go super hard with 1st party games. Nintendo hardware has a identity. PlayStation hardware has a identity. But in 2017, What is Xbox? They want to sell you a dedicated box like the others, but you can also have that experience on PC. It's marketing to different audiences, but at what cost? Do you just provide the same experience on both platforms and leave it at that. Or is there a end goal to eventually move everything to PC? It's going to be very interesting watching Microsoft handle the remainder of this year.
Well, I guess that is what E3 is for and why they got this out of the way now.
It will fail at any higher price. Microsoft knows that.
Actually, you're correct. I forgot about the extra gig. Didn't recall what it was used for, though. So even less of a gap
While it's "just games", the same mentality still applies with people needing to defend preconceived notions and justifying previous actions.
Hell no. These consoles are meant to extend the generation and not just for 3 years.
I'll eat a fucking feast of crow if Scorpio is $399.
So ps4 pro 8g ram.
5 dedicated to games 3 for the rest ui etc.
Scorpio 12g ram
8 desicated to games 4 for the rest ui etc.
Does the os ui or what ever require that much?
We want to hit the price-points where consumers want to purchase this. It's about balancing the two.
So ps4 pro 8g ram.
5 dedicated to games 3 for the rest ui etc.
Scorpio 12g ram
8 desicated to games 4 for the rest ui etc.
Does the os ui or what ever require that much?
I think people will be surprised by how long this gen will be. It feels like it just started getting the ball rolling in the last 2 years, so I don't expect PS5 or Xbox 2 until at least 2020. If anything, the existence of these mid-gen upgrades is to extend the life of the gen.
yes foreverSo are we just stuck with a jaguar cpu indefinitely?
Why? Better start preparing then.
I repeat, they didn't stick with Jaguar/Polaris for shits and giggles.
Hell no. These consoles are meant to extend the generation and not just for 3 years.
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I know it isn't super important....but I'm a stickler for these kind of things and it's Always fun to me to have everything down.
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On topic: This is kinda interesting. Seems as Microsoft actually learned and is making a gaming machine first but a bummer to lock out 4GB to the system. I can see the need for it if they are going to supply streaming in 4k60fps but with the Jag, even clocked up, I wonder how the encoding will work. Have they said anything about when they will share more information? This was actually kinda interesting.