Jonneh3003
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Wow we're calling Digital Foundry sell outs now?
Right? Lolgod forbid if the dude is genuinely impressed with what he saw. lolz
Wow we're calling Digital Foundry sell outs now?
When people say liquid cooling, they expect water to be in the equation.
Wow we're calling Digital Foundry sell outs now?
People here aren't stupid. Skepticism with whatever you read is fine - you should always be a bit skeptical of the world. But that doesn't mean we're being fed lies.
These write ups are just normal for a preview of anything, software or hardware. He is documenting what they have showed him. And yes, he happens to like it...is that not allowed? He has been positive about other products in the past, many of which were not MS-made.
Were you skeptical when people were positive of the PS4 or PS4 Pro's reveals? Or, for that matter, when people were positive about any system reveal?
This is some good design. Like look at the power supply. It has it's own enclosure to isolate the heat from the rest of the components. Look at the HDD caddy, and the disk drive. Now look at the PS4 Pro.
Now I'm not saying the Ps4 Pro isn't a great design, because it is, but I want to make another point. The Ps4 Pro is built to be cheap and compact. The picture of Scorpio screams premium build quality. If people were wondering why this thing might be more than $399, then this might be the answer along with the extra RAM. vapor cooler, and I'm assuming bigger SOC. I would also bet the Scorpio comes with a 2TB or bigger drive at least at launch. It might have cheaper versions later like the XBox One S.
Have they not heard about other liquids?
Wow we're calling Digital Foundry sell outs now?
This is some good design. Like look at the power supply. It has it's own enclosure to isolate the heat from the rest of the components. Look at the HDD caddy, and the disk drive. Now look at the PS4 Pro.
Now I'm not saying the Ps4 Pro isn't a great design, because it is, but I want to make another point. The Ps4 Pro is built to be cheap and compact. The picture of Scorpio screams premium build quality. If people were wondering why this thing might be more than $399, then this might be the answer along with the extra RAM, vapor cooler, and I'm assuming bigger SOC. I would also bet the Scorpio comes with a 2TB or bigger drive at least at launch. It might have cheaper versions later like the XBox One S.
And that would be fine. Just call it what it is: a paid advertisement. Put a disclaimer at the top telling us how Microsoft funded the trip and wined and dined DF (or whatever the arrangement was to secure this "exclusive") and everyone can adjust their expectations accordingly for what's to come.
And that would be fine. Just call it what it is: a paid advertisement. Put a disclaimer at the top telling us how Microsoft funded the trip and wined and dined DF (or whatever the arrangement was to secure this "exclusive") and everyone can adjust their expectations accordingly for what's to come.
Wow we're calling Digital Foundry sell outs now?
This is some good design. Like look at the power supply. It has it's own enclosure to isolate the heat from the rest of the components. Look at the HDD caddy, and the disk drive. Now look at the PS4 Pro.
Now I'm not saying the Ps4 Pro isn't a great design, because it is, but I want to make another point. The Ps4 Pro is built to be cheap and compact. The picture of Scorpio screams premium build quality. If people were wondering why this thing might be more than $399, then this might be the answer along with the extra RAM, vapor cooler, and I'm assuming bigger SOC. I also bet the Scorpio comes with a 2TB or bigger drive at least at launch. It might have cheaper versions later like the XBox One S.
They've been paid Sony shills up to this point in the generation according to a lot of Xbox fans...Wow we're calling Digital Foundry sell outs now?
Is there liquid in there and does it help cool the SOC? What the hell else are they supposed to call it?
Wait wait wait... I listed this on low end $500 but wouldn't be shocked to see $600...
Watercooling?
$600 I'm calling
Do we know how the Scorpio will look yet? I haven't been able to check any links at work.
Yeah, but it's necessary for that size.I don't like how it uses a blower fan.
It's going to be noisy when it runs very hot.
IDev be surprised if the didn't have a 1tb version at launch.
Ps4 Pro owners are laughing now at future Scorpio customers. Yes, we have almost the same specs for a long time now. Just wait for PS5 or stick with tablet CPU for 4k gaming in Scorpio.
Yeah, but it's necessary for that size.
Ps4 Pro owners are laughing now at future Scorpio customers. Yes, we have almost the same specs for a long time now. Just wait for PS5 or stick with tablet CPU for 4k gaming in Scorpio.
Wow we're calling Digital Foundry sell outs now?
They've been paid Sony shills up to this point in the generation according to a lot of Xbox fans
Ps4 Pro owners are laughing now at future Scorpio customers. Yes, we have almost the same specs for a long time now. Just wait for PS5 or stick with tablet CPU for 4k gaming in Scorpio.
Ps4 Pro owners are laughing now at future Scorpio customers. Yes, we have almost the same specs for a long time now. Just wait for PS5 or stick with tablet CPU for 4k gaming in Scorpio.
In attempting to deflect discussions of scorpio still using Jaguar cores, they vaguely proclaim customisations that have already confused people into thinking the CPU itself has built in DX12 implementation.
However, potentially the most exciting aspect surrounding the CPU revamp doesn't actually relate to the processor blocks at all, but rather to the GPU command processor - the piece of hardware that receives instructions from the CPU, piping them through to the graphics core.
"We essentially moved Direct3D 12," says Goossen. "We built that into the command processor of the GPU and what that means is that, for all the high frequency API invocations that the games do, they'll all natively implemented in the logic of the command processor - and what this means is that our communication from the game to the GPU is super-efficient."
Processing draw calls - effectively telling the graphics hardware what to draw - is one of the most important tasks the CPU carries out. It can suck up a lot of processor resources, a pipeline that traditionally takes thousands - perhaps hundreds of thousands - of CPU instructions. With Scorpio's hardware offload, any draw call can be executed with just 11 instructions, and just nine for a state change.
"It's a massive win for us and for the developers who've adopted D3D12 on Xbox, they've told us they've been able to cut their CPU rendering overhead by half, which is pretty amazing because now the driver portion of that is such a tiny fraction," adds Goossen.
Ps4 Pro owners are laughing now at future Scorpio customers. Yes, we have almost the same specs for a long time now. Just wait for PS5 or stick with tablet CPU for 4k gaming in Scorpio.
What part of the gaf cycle are we on now?
BeautifulThis is some good design. Like look at the power supply. It has it's own enclosure to isolate the heat from the rest of the components. Look at the HDD caddy, and the disk drive. Now look at the PS4 Pro.
Now I'm not saying the Ps4 Pro isn't a great design, because it is, but I want to make another point. The Ps4 Pro is built to be cheap and compact. The picture of Scorpio screams premium build quality. If people were wondering why this thing might be more than $399, then this might be the answer along with the extra RAM, vapor cooler, and I'm assuming bigger SOC. I would also bet the Scorpio comes with a 2TB or bigger drive at least at launch. It might have cheaper versions later like the XBox One S.
I don't know anything about PS4 Pro. If the author did the same shit in the past I didn't notice. I don't see how prior precedent fixes anything. Unless you mean to say it's par for the course for DF and I've set my expectations too high?
This is some good design. Like look at the power supply. It has it's own enclosure to isolate the heat from the rest of the components. Look at the HDD caddy, and the disk drive. Now look at the PS4 Pro.
Now I'm not saying the Ps4 Pro isn't a great design, because it is, but I want to make another point. The Ps4 Pro is built to be cheap and compact. The picture of Scorpio screams premium build quality. If people were wondering why this thing might be more than $399, then this might be the answer along with the extra RAM, vapor cooler, and I'm assuming bigger SOC. I would also bet the Scorpio comes with a 2TB or bigger drive at least at launch. It might have cheaper versions later like the XBox One S.
Ps4 Pro owners are laughing now at future Scorpio customers. Yes, we have almost the same specs for a long time now. Just wait for PS5 or stick with tablet CPU for 4k gaming in Scorpio.
Links? I want to see lots.They've been paid Sony shills up to this point in the generation according to a lot of Xbox fans
I edited my post upon looking at the design furtherCalling a vapor chamber liquid cooling is a massive stretch. It's basically a fancy heat pipe with a very small amount of liquid that evaporates and recondences to draw heat away from the SOC. Nobody who's familiar with PC component cooling would refer to it as liquid cooling. There's no pump, radiator, or circulation like there is in an actual closed loop liquid cooling system. It's like calling yourself a landscaper on your resume because you raked your neighbor's leaves once.
That's not to say it isn't effective, but calling it liquid cooling is extremely misleading and pretty typical of MS in the way they target people who aren't very knowledgeable about hardware. Remember the whole "every game is 1080p because it's upscale" crap?
Sigh....
Again, it's not watercooling. It's a vapor chamber. It's a cheap and effective cooling solution, but it's not water cooling.
Ps4 Pro owners are laughing now at future Scorpio customers. Yes, we have almost the same specs for a long time now. Just wait for PS5 or stick with tablet CPU for 4k gaming in Scorpio.
It's Jaguar EvolvedSo is it just a Jaguar or not?
Yeah the part i am most intrigued about is the cpu customizations with dx12 hardcoded.
50% gains in efficiency is huge. Need more details.
Bit off topic and off the fanboyism, but is State of Decay 2 still out this year?
Isnt that the job of the tv scaler and not the bluray player?
So is it just a Jaguar or not?