I am not meaning to single you out but is it really hilarious to have a hampster on a wheel going so fast it flings the poor animal out after many high speed rotations?
Cringeeeeeeeee
Most of the biggest and/or best games are multiplatform anyway. You could almost view Scorpio as attempt by MS to compensate for their sparse first party selection by creating the premier platform for console multiplatsI am liking what I am reading about the scorpio however it comes back to the games and not so much the hardware. I am aslo wondering how long each console cycle will last if Sony and MS follow the mobile phone manufacturers (and other appliance makers)
The "extensive customization" they described is just the command processor every modern GPU has. PS4 had two of them. This also marks the third time MS has claimed they're solving the draw call overhead problem on Xbox One or are we forgetting the revolutions the "mono driver" and DX12 SDK were supposed to bring?
It also follows the same script as the Xbox One hardware disclosures where they tried to create the impression that standard GPU component were some kind of "secret sauce". This would be OK if DF didn't fall into the same trap of blindly repeating everything they're told because they don't actually understand the tech well enough to challenge the Microsoft narrative and provide important context.
Long story short, Scorpio is an Xbox One Pro with Jaguar and Polaris level architectures that Microsoft is desperate to package as something more interesting because they managed expectations so poorly.
I love the smell of console wars in the morning.Ps4 Pro owners are laughing now at future Scorpio customers. Yes, we have almost the same specs for a long time now. Just wait for PS5 or stick with tablet CPU for 4k gaming in Scorpio.
For what?
did you just read what you're saying?
So after having stepped away from the hype train and slept for a good 8 hours, I'm getting kind of skeptical of this reveal. Particularly the Forza screenshot. Why is a screenshot of the starting line of a racing game w/ an FPS counter their only evidence of performance? How hard is it to record a 20-30 second clip of gameplay? The screenshot is just... weird.
I'll still be able to use my Kinect right?
Why is a screenshot of the starting line of a racing game w/ an FPS counter their only evidence of performance? How hard is it to record a 20-30 second clip of gameplay? The screenshot is just... weird.
Roofles. Im a hamster owner and its rooflezI am liking what I am reading about the scorpio however it comes back to the games and not so much the hardware. I am aslo wondering how long each console cycle will last if Sony and MS follow the mobile phone manufacturers (and other appliance makers)
I am not meaning to single you out but is it really hilarious to have a hampster on a wheel going so fast it flings the poor animal out after many high speed rotations?
I'm no PETA supporter but that gif looks rather cruel..perhaps we can have a gif of a toddler on a treadmill trying to run at high speed and being flung off for shits & giggles too.
They are already few month late with Scorpio which isnt a Pro killer. Its just a bit better than PS4 Pro. To me its a dissappointment. This gen should end soon. We are still limited with poor CPU. Unity, rings a bell?Remind me what stops Microsoft from brining a successor to Scorpio down the line?
So Jaguars really can't go above 2.1? Interesting. Didn't know that.
I knew it!! Zen baby!
Kidding, relax
MS pulled a 360. even if Sony launches a new system next year.
They are ahead of schedule, actually. But hey, what does the head of Xbox know anyway amirightThey are already few month late with Scorpio which isnt a Pro killer. Its just a bit better than PS4 Pro. To me its a dissappointment. This gen should end soon. We are still limited with poor CPU. Unity, rings a bell?
lol Jesus.They are already few month late with Scorpio which isnt a Pro killer. Its just a bit better than PS4 Pro. To me its a dissappointment. This gen should end soon. We are still limited with poor CPU. Unity, rings a bell?
EeeeeeeeeeeeeSo is the general consensus Scorpio will cost 499.99?
Well, Jag architecture can go to 2.4 in turbo mode
The A8 6410 from AMD has 2.4 GHz turbo.
Where do people get the 2.1 max from anyway, out of there arse ?
Or that at the fact they look to be pretty expensive for what they are offering. It may be better than what they have shown but I'm Pretty dissapointed by it especially when it probably will be 499 or higher. I would have been equally dissapointed in sony if the pro would have been 499 as well. I just think it's a mistake for them to be pricing it anything more than 399 and ive said it constantly since scorpio was announced.Agreed. How can a group be so threatened when they are enjoying Horizon and Persona 5? Or Nier?
I guess it is not enough that Sony succeeds, MS must fail.
All Scorpio games supersample down to 1080p
Neat
So is the general consensus Scorpio will cost 499.99?
The "extensive customization" they described is just the command processor every modern GPU has. PS4 had two of them. This also marks the third time MS has claimed they're solving the draw call overhead problem on Xbox One or are we forgetting the revolutions the "mono driver" and DX12 SDK were supposed to bring?
It also follows the same script as the Xbox One hardware disclosures where they tried to create the impression that standard GPU component were some kind of "secret sauce". This would be OK if DF didn't fall into the same trap of blindly repeating everything they're told because they don't actually understand the tech well enough to challenge the Microsoft narrative and provide important context.
Long story short, Scorpio is an Xbox One Pro with Jaguar and Polaris level architectures that Microsoft is desperate to package as something more interesting because they managed expectations so poorly.
For what?
So Scorpio DOES use liquid cooling?!!
Microsoft are stretching the hell out of the truth to say this is "a first for home consoles". The original PS3 used heat pipes for cooling, which is the same method as Scorpio. The only difference is in the shape of the vapor container.Yep. A vapor chamber is a first for a console. It's crazy as hell.
No, the "Hovis method" has nothing to do with cooling.Hovis method confirmed.
It looks premium partly because it's a CG render, with perfect lighting gradients and no grubby skew angles. Also, the PCB is black, which conveys "classy" without actually meaning anything.The picture of Scorpio screams premium build quality. ...I would also bet the Scorpio comes with a 2TB or bigger drive at least at launch.
From what I was able to calculate, I'd predict the Scorpio will be about as tall as One S, the same or just slightly less wide, but deeper by a good amount. This is based on some assumptions that may turn out incorrect, though.Anyone worked out the dimensions from the render? Hard to exactly tell but it does seem similar sizing to the S model.
Every Xbone and 360 game will benefit from the increase in power and performance... Oh, and every Xbone and 360 game you can currently play on Xbone will be playable on Scorpio.Any news on what this will do to current Xbox one games? What about backwards compatibility?
Long story short, Scorpio is an Xbox One Pro with Jaguar and Polaris level architectures that Microsoft is desperate to package as something more interesting because they managed expectations so poorly.
lol Jesus.
They didn't pay DF shit, Richard would gladly verbally fellate Xbox at no cost.Went to EG and oh boy... i felt like i stepped inside MS's church (specially their "Scorpio made simple" article) surely they got paid?... but anywho. So it basically pretty much confirms what was hinted at correct?, can't say that i'm surprised at all (neither in a positive/negative way) we'll see what they have in store for E3.
I hope so. I've used voice commands like 3 times just this evening (mostly just for play and pause, but still!)I'll still be able to use my Kinect right?
Or that at the fact they look to be pretty expensive for what they are offering. It may be better than what they have shown but I'm Pretty dissapointed by it especially when it probably will be 499 or higher. I would have been equally dissapointed in sony if the pro would have been 499 as well. I just think it's a mistake for them to be pricing it anything more than 399 and ive said it constantly since scorpio was announced.
This is not true. Only games that are failing to meet their resolution and framerate targets will automatically benefit. All others will need to be patched.Every Xbone and 360 game will benefit from the increase in power and performance...
They didn't pay DF shit, Richard would gladly verbally fellate Xbox at no cost.
For voice commands like xbox record that, or xbox take a screenshot. I use kinect only for that.
They are already few month late with Scorpio which isnt a Pro killer. Its just a bit better than PS4 Pro. To me its a dissappointment. This gen should end soon. We are still limited with poor CPU. Unity, rings a bell?
They are already few month late with Scorpio which isnt a Pro killer. Its just a bit better than PS4 Pro. To me its a dissappointment. This gen should end soon. We are still limited with poor CPU. Unity, rings a bell?
Oh Jesus Christ...you're blind, or in denial if you've never read the ridiculous stuff out there about DF being biased towards Sony this gen...just like the same was said last gen, but instead by Sony fans...So lots is two? and nobody I know has any respect for misterX, we actually think hes a sony boy making xbox fans look bad,
Similar to what Eurogamer has been doing for Sony for the last decade.
Any news on what this will do to current Xbox one games? What about backwards compatibility?
I'm speaking in general terms- games will benefit in some fashion... Load times will decrease, etc. Could have been clearer in my comment though.This is not true. Only games that are failing to meet their resolution and framerate targets will automatically benefit. All others will need to be patched.
They are already few month late with Scorpio which isnt a Pro killer. Its just a bit better than PS4 Pro. To me its a dissappointment. This gen should end soon. We are still limited with poor CPU. Unity, rings a bell?
The "extensive customization" they described is just the command processor every modern GPU has. PS4 had two of them. This also marks the third time MS has claimed they're solving the draw call overhead problem on Xbox One or are we forgetting the revolutions the "mono driver" and DX12 SDK were supposed to bring?
It also follows the same script as the Xbox One hardware disclosures where they tried to create the impression that standard GPU component were some kind of "secret sauce". This would be OK if DF didn't fall into the same trap of blindly repeating everything they're told because they don't actually understand the tech well enough to challenge the Microsoft narrative and provide important context.
Long story short, Scorpio is an Xbox One Pro with Jaguar and Polaris level architectures that Microsoft is desperate to package as something more interesting because they managed expectations so poorly.
I'm sorry that your expectations were crushed but the Scorpio is actually a pretty powerful machine. It's remarkable, the engineering they have poured into it.The "extensive customization" they described is just the command processor every modern GPU has. PS4 had two of them. This also marks the third time MS has claimed they're solving the draw call overhead problem on Xbox One or are we forgetting the revolutions the "mono driver" and DX12 SDK were supposed to bring?
It also follows the same script as the Xbox One hardware disclosures where they tried to create the impression that standard GPU component were some kind of "secret sauce". This would be OK if DF didn't fall into the same trap of blindly repeating everything they're told because they don't actually understand the tech well enough to challenge the Microsoft narrative and provide important context.
Long story short, Scorpio is an Xbox One Pro with Jaguar and Polaris level architectures that Microsoft is desperate to package as something more interesting because they managed expectations so poorly.
Xbox One and Xbox 360 games running on Scorpio benefit from:
1. Smoother performance (within the games' frame-rate targets) and no screen-tearing
2. Maximum possible resolution on dynamic titles
3. Improved texture filtering (16x anisotropic filtering)
4. Scorpio GameDVR support (up to 4K, 60fps, HDR, and the ability to select individual frames for screenshots)
5. Faster loading
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/d...-five-ways-your-existing-games-will-be-better
Well, DF talked as if this was something novel and they were impressed. Your not. I'll go with DF on this one.
I'm sorry that your expectations were crushed but the Scorpio is actually a pretty powerful machine. It's remarkable, the engineering they have poured into it.
Yeah, I'm surprised they didn't come out and call it a super-charged PC architecture, altered to make it better for gaming.
Yup, there is no special customization and no secret sauce. When it comes to companies making noteworthy hardware customizations in the console space, that usually comes from Sony as they are a hardware company.Well, Jag architecture can go to 2.4 in turbo mode
The A8 6410 from AMD has 2.4 GHz turbo.
Where do people get the 2.1 max from anyway...are they thinking the CPU in the Scorpio is not a Jaguar...
When the die shots come out, it will show the CPU of pro and scorpio look the same, one is just clocked 10 % higher.