They talk about Forza 6 with max. vehicles running at 4k 60FPS and only hitting max. 70% CPU utilisation, ported in 2 days.
Digital Foundry: Xbox Scorpio
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They talk about Forza 6 with max. vehicles running at 4k 60FPS and only hitting max. 70% CPU utilisation, ported in 2 days.
Not at all. It basically iterates on bump PS4 Pro got. Kind of Like a Pro version of the PS4 Pro. It's a bump, but it's not a massive one.
Tal Shiar Agent
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That's a good thing. Defined generations help the industry.
I doubt that. It will be obsolete -IF- Sony announces a PS based on Zen / Vega, which will probably launch, or atleast be announced before 2020.
Makoto-Yuki
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so it's not a next gen console like so many people said it would be but just an Xbox One Pro? lol.
Personally even though it's more powerful and i do enjoy my one s, the fact that they showed Forza....man. it's like Microsoft never gonna learn. You just know that it's just gonna have the same games as the one has now and thats just the gears/halo/forza combo. I would love to be wrong but what points to me being wrong?
Rien
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If this thing is $499 it's DOA as anything but a niche enthusiast machine.
Not really, but still pretty damn good. Top line on PC is approaching 11.3TF from nvidia, but even that is a poor metric, as if you do a straight comparison of real world game performance between AMD and Nvidia, nvidia is always far superior.
It's super nitpicky though - you will NEVER get that kind of performance advantage at a reasonable price point when trying to create a console.
Chances are Scorpio will have a reasonable price. Even at $499, assuming GTX 1070 level performance, it's excellent value for money. I've said this with PS4 Pro (which needs a price drop now) but at launch and even at "fauxK checkboarding Vaseline" (hyperbole intended), it was still excellent value for money at launch and quality.
The only stupid thing with PS4 Pro (and just consoles in general) is bullshit marketing. Now MS will talk about "true 4K" which they should because it's actually true, while we have to call PS4 Pro's various resolutions "4K" too, just as we have done with 900P and other "supercharged PC" wonders. Just put out the facts and let everyone have a good ass time already. Marketing is like politics where your just sat there reading between the lines, so it's good to see MS just drop the specs and details (although likely not giving room for DF to go very far in terms of criticism; as with all exclusive product journalism).
Yeah, seems like a "fuck we have to use jaguar, what kind of shit can we do to mitigate that".
OsirisBlack
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$599.00 us price point hold on to your butts?
SEGAvangelist
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meow.
Hardware wise, it sounds like Scorpio will be more of a premium product than the Pro so I expect it be quieter
I have a Pro and ther's nothing premium about it (not talking specs but the console itself)
They saw Forza 6 ported over running at 4k/60fps while only using 66% of the GPU
Not sure if trolling but this thing wasn't an announcement of a system. It's a digital foundry exclusive to reveal final specs. A console reveal will happen seperate.
redfirm
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this. this is a huge problem for xbox. their gaming department just sucks imo.
Zvonimir Boban
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Oh my sweet child, Forza doesn't drop frames.
The start of the race when all the cars are bunched together like that is the most demanding part of a race as well, if you watch the video he says that the GPU use actually dropped to around 50-55% at times during the race.
My thoughts exactly.
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paragonpro
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I don't need this system but I can already feel myself caving.
Yeah its safe to assume forza 7 is gonna look pretty incredible on this thing
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It was never going to come close to my PC and if they still insist on releasing all of their first party exclusives on both it makes no sense for me, personally to get one.
$399 would certainly make the PS4 Pro look vastly overpriced (considering Scorpio's better specs and ability to play 4K Ultra HD discs) and would create some strong early hype...
..on the flipside I could see Microsoft launching at $499 for early adopters (as they'll likely sell all the hardware they make for 2017) and then drop to $399 for holiday 2018.
..on the flipside I could see Microsoft launching at $499 for early adopters (as they'll likely sell all the hardware they make for 2017) and then drop to $399 for holiday 2018.
Not only that, it's comparable to GTX1070 performance, which is fucking huge.
Resident_UA
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I was extremely excited about today! In fact I posted yesterday about this. Do you have PS4 Pro and also want Scorpio? If not, your concerns are different than mine.
Oh god. First it was "PS4 has no games" and now its suddenly "Xbox has no games"
Both comments are/were stupid.
They said the resolution options like 4K and downsampling for 1080p would be standardized for all games (where applicable), and Atmos support would now be firmware standard.
darkside31337
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So they aren't supporting the current xbox one at all, the list of Japanese games not on it this year is kind of unbelievable, but they're going to hop on board because there's a more expensive machine coming out?
You seem surprised a console releasing a year later than the Pro that will seemingly sell for a significantly more expensive price has better specs.
Papacheeks
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People like SHinobi among others who know people said not to expect a lot past what we've already seen.
So take that for what it is I guess.
If they show crack down, forza, and games that have already released with a look into halo 6, I don't see it being that exciting for people as those franchises outside of SOT, crackdown have tired their audience.
Scorpio needs new blood for software, and showning off a bunch of Multiplats at E3 with those mentioned games isn't going to drown out what possibly NIntendo and Sony are going to show.
Primethius
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As a long-time but now lapsed Xbox fan:
This reveal kind of sucked? Yea the Pro reveal was garbage. But this did nothing for me. I guess they want to wait until E3 to really show off but by then I think I'll be more focused on other things.
This reveal kind of sucked? Yea the Pro reveal was garbage. But this did nothing for me. I guess they want to wait until E3 to really show off but by then I think I'll be more focused on other things.
Can't speak for Durante, but ofc that stuff is nice. It's nice if you have FreeSync or when HDMI 2.1 gets any use in the future for when television use it. That's it really, it's nice.
Forced 16xAF is something that should have happened a long time ago, but it's really just good for going back to older games to make them look a little like they would on a mid-spec PC anyways
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As nice as the Scoprio's spec may be, there's nothing new here. Ever since the Pro's launch we all knew about what this means.
Good thing Microsoft acknowledges that this is gonna be a niche machine that appeals to enthusiasts.
Prithee Be Careful
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A 12GB monster, with cutting edge liquid cooling and UHD Blu-ray player. I suspect we'll see some seriously impressive visuals from it, but people should be bracing for the pricepoint, because this won't come cheap.
So Scorpio is basically a 7 billion transistor SoC (the Scorpio Engine) a full-fat Polaris GPU with 40 CUs (PS4 Pro has 36 CUs) that is highly overclocked to hit exactly 6.0 TFLOPs.
Jaguar CPU @ 2.3 GHz.
The big news is full DX12 feature set built into the front-end of the hardware.
12 GB GDDR5 RAM -384-bit memory bus. 326 GB/sec bandwidth -
8 GB usable for games.
I'll bet it's not going to be a penny over $399.99 which is awesome.
Jaguar CPU @ 2.3 GHz.
The big news is full DX12 feature set built into the front-end of the hardware.
12 GB GDDR5 RAM -384-bit memory bus. 326 GB/sec bandwidth -
8 GB usable for games.
I'll bet it's not going to be a penny over $399.99 which is awesome.
