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Disneys Bob Iger shares new details on streaming services
- Thread starter LordOfLore
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NYCmetsfan
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lol
Lightning_Roller
Banned
Well, better enjoy the marvel movies while I can on Netflix. Then buy them on dvd.
Baron von Loathsome
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friskykillface
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RIP ESPN
Baron von Loathsome
Member
Gravity Falls: The Return?
What the fuck is the point of owning all these different companies if you are just going to release separate streams for all of them. Fuck them for trying to wedge a cable model into streaming. I'll stick with the services that have the most options in one place, thanks.
If Disney merges ESPN, ABC, Marvel, Star Wars, etc etc, then I'll take a look.
If Disney merges ESPN, ABC, Marvel, Star Wars, etc etc, then I'll take a look.
LordOfLore
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BlackGoku03
Member
Fuck off with that. I need one service not several thereby killing the reason why anyone would cut the cord in the first place.
So AoS app exclusive starting 2019? Is that what that means?
Inferno313
Banned
Curious if that means this service will be the new home of stuff like the Direct-To-Video Tinkerbell shit, or if their plans are more ambitious.
Throwing up some low-mid budget side-stories from the Star Wars and Marvel universes could be really cool, but I dunno if I see them doing that.
Some Nobody
Junior Member
Ultimately, "the market will decide", but I'll tell you where I stand:
I'll get a subscription to Hulu for frequent updates, Netflix because of original content, and Crunchyroll for supporting anime. You can put your content on one of those three places, or you're on your own. I'm not going to let you nickle and dime your way back to $160 for cable. Fuck. That.
Unfortunately, Disney is one of the few corporations with enough content to make a thing like this work. They have so many things, it's insane.
I'll get a subscription to Hulu for frequent updates, Netflix because of original content, and Crunchyroll for supporting anime. You can put your content on one of those three places, or you're on your own. I'm not going to let you nickle and dime your way back to $160 for cable. Fuck. That.
Unfortunately, Disney is one of the few corporations with enough content to make a thing like this work. They have so many things, it's insane.
jts
...hate me...
I thought people cut the cord to choose and pay for discrete services with the content they prefer a la carte, cancel and resub anytime, watch anywhere.
Sweeney Tom
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What you're going to see more and more is unless companies merge to make monopolies, you're never getting that one service. This isn't surprising. It was always a pipe dream at best, and people bought it because they wanted to believe cable was an archaic form. So now the future is paying more than you ever did for cable to get streaming services for each of the programs you actually want.
Everyone was always going to want their own piece of the pie. How quickly people jumped at it just exacerbated the speed at which it's happening.
RPGCrazied
Member
If there is ever a Star Wars TV show we know now where its going. It'll be like Star Trek on CBS All Access.
jts
...hate me...
Lets say you have a $20-$30 budget for streaming services.
Get Netflix on lock.
Subscribe 1 or 2 more services on rotation. Binge what you want to watch, cancel subscription. Come back later when they stock their fridges with new stuff or a new season of your fave show is streaming a new episode per week.
For me this is a immensely valuable model. In fact, I only fear we'll get deterrent factors in place to stop us from moving so freely.
Get Netflix on lock.
Subscribe 1 or 2 more services on rotation. Binge what you want to watch, cancel subscription. Come back later when they stock their fridges with new stuff or a new season of your fave show is streaming a new episode per week.
For me this is a immensely valuable model. In fact, I only fear we'll get deterrent factors in place to stop us from moving so freely.
LibrarianGMR
Member
If they add their cartoon shows, like all the Disney Afternoon content, I would go in on this.
Extra Sauce
Member
Unless you rotate and binge, which is my preferred method of consumption anyway.
Some Nobody
Junior Member
No, that's what people fantasized about in the mid-2000's. When the 20-somethings started cutting cords in the 2010s, it was because Netflix literally had everything you cared to watch and if it didn't, you'd just wait. Then Hulu came along and supplemented it, and for $20 you got all you wanted without throwing away $100 on a cable bill.
The Broken Ska Record
Member
This has the potential for being one of those services I maintain a constant sub to, like Netflix. I just need to see EXACTLY what content they are going to have. Because Cartoon Network's Boomerang sounded interesting, but didn't have anywhere near the catalog I was hoping it would have.
BlackGoku03
Member
I can't speak for everyone who does it, but most people I speak to do it to save money. $150+ for internet and cable is too much. But if your ISP charges $70 (which is what Spectrum charges me for 50~60 down) and you have Hulu, Netflix, Noggin (for my daughter), PSVUE/Sling/whatever then it adds up to be just as much if not more.
I went back to cable for this very reason. Only paying $120 plus tax.
AND they want to change how people watch ESPN? One of the channels who have single handedly increased the cost of cable for everyone? Fuck all that. Glad I have cable and don't have to worry about it anymore.
I figured it wouldn't happen but damn, still sucks. I think this is just going to push people to use Kodi on Firesticks even more than they have.
AfterTheFall
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Hope Disneylife.com here in the UK isn't affected or alternatively they smarten up the service.
freeofgreed
Member
This sucks but Disney is one of the few companies that could make this work just due to huge dearth of content. If they actually put all of their shit on this, and don't arbitrarily exclude certain things (which I feel they'll do anyways). I could see this being very successful.
You mean like Rebels, those princess cartoons, and the lego star wars stuff they have on XD? I definitely see that level of stuff, but something like a live action SW show, no way.
These streaming services are hosed once folks just sub to one, binge all the annually released content in a month, then unsubscribe and move to the next one. No one is going to have an annual subscription unless it is either really cheap or a wall of new content (the Netflix approach) but I don't think anyone can match the pockets of Netflix.
One Eyed Willy
Member
The days of 1 service are long gone. If you want one service, get TV again.
Also, I started using the new Disney NOW Roku app and I don't like it so far. It aggregates all their other apps, Disney Junior, etc.. into one. Its slow
shiftplusone
Member
If they take Daredevil and all that shit to their own platform then I guess I'm done watching all that stuff
if that's the future you're looking for, by all means go for it.
my future includes me paying for no more than two streaming services. if that means i spend less time watching TV, or don't have access to every TV show available, fine by me.
hodayathink
Member
BAMTech are basically the best in the industry when it comes to this type of backend, so that shouldn't be a problem.
Disney can match the pockets of Netflix. Disney has enough money to flat out buy Netflix, and at the moment produces a good deal more original content than they do, they just spread it out between theatrical releases and their TV channels.
excelsiorlef
Member
Factoring in the price of internet itself is nonsense thinking because the average person will always pay that base $70 even with cable... Because you aren't not going to have internet.
excelsiorlef
Member
Disney literally has the best catalogue of any single company.
They are the only company that can actually pull this off/
They are the only company that can actually pull this off/
All this fragmentation sucks - I don't subscribe to anything anymore as a result. Granted, I don't watch any TV and few movies anyway, but I used to have Netflix for those rare occasions.
But live sports are another matter. If there was a service that had good live sports coverage + disney content? Yeah, that'd be a tempting proposition. So I could certainly see this one making it big. It'd need to get at least two of the following sports/competitions for me to be interested though:
-NFL
-Champions League football
-PGA Tour
-International Rugby tests
-NBA
Right now ESPN has only Monday Night Football for NFL and some NBA games out of that list. Not enough, not even close. Cable is still easily the best way to get your sports fix. Fortunately it comes free with my strata payments in my place.
But live sports are another matter. If there was a service that had good live sports coverage + disney content? Yeah, that'd be a tempting proposition. So I could certainly see this one making it big. It'd need to get at least two of the following sports/competitions for me to be interested though:
-NFL
-Champions League football
-PGA Tour
-International Rugby tests
-NBA
Right now ESPN has only Monday Night Football for NFL and some NBA games out of that list. Not enough, not even close. Cable is still easily the best way to get your sports fix. Fortunately it comes free with my strata payments in my place.
BoogieWoogie
Banned
$50 a month for this. I'm calling it.
I see lots of "fuck off" comments in here... but ultimately believe many/most of those will be active subscribers for a month here and a month there after launch.
I mean virtually every home entertainment analyst has seen the writing on the wall for multiple independent streaming services forever now.
There are two things that make this tolerable to me. First and absolutely most important.. is an aggregation service. Apple was (I believe) first to market with one.. with Siri search and TV app on apple TV. Roku, Fire TV, etc HAVE to get an aggregation system integrated into their platforms.
Second, a combined subscription payment platform (again, apple has this). So if I find something from the aggregation feed that I like, it gives me the option to subscribe to the service if I don't already subscribe, AND to manage my subscriptions (and cancel from one interface).
So how I ultimately work it right now is the only subs I carry from month to month are Netflix and Hulu. Beyond that, I never have more than two extra subs. if I want to subscribe to HBO but I already have two other subs, I force myself to cancel one of those before I sub to HBO.
Over time it allows me to enjoy what most of the services have to offer.. and the fact that the TV app lets you add content to your queue (Up Next) that you don't subscribe to.. as a reminder/suggestion to eventually subscribe.
tl;dr - this is the way content is going to be in the future. Many decrying it will still subscribe. Better to, instead of complaining, figure out how to work within it so that you still get to enjoy the content over time without it costing you an arm and a leg from like 40 different streaming providers.
$15 is pretty much the top end. I can see Disney figuring the have the clout to try $20.. but I really don't think the market will sustain a $20 service from one provider.
I mean virtually every home entertainment analyst has seen the writing on the wall for multiple independent streaming services forever now.
There are two things that make this tolerable to me. First and absolutely most important.. is an aggregation service. Apple was (I believe) first to market with one.. with Siri search and TV app on apple TV. Roku, Fire TV, etc HAVE to get an aggregation system integrated into their platforms.
Second, a combined subscription payment platform (again, apple has this). So if I find something from the aggregation feed that I like, it gives me the option to subscribe to the service if I don't already subscribe, AND to manage my subscriptions (and cancel from one interface).
So how I ultimately work it right now is the only subs I carry from month to month are Netflix and Hulu. Beyond that, I never have more than two extra subs. if I want to subscribe to HBO but I already have two other subs, I force myself to cancel one of those before I sub to HBO.
Over time it allows me to enjoy what most of the services have to offer.. and the fact that the TV app lets you add content to your queue (Up Next) that you don't subscribe to.. as a reminder/suggestion to eventually subscribe.
tl;dr - this is the way content is going to be in the future. Many decrying it will still subscribe. Better to, instead of complaining, figure out how to work within it so that you still get to enjoy the content over time without it costing you an arm and a leg from like 40 different streaming providers.
$15 is pretty much the top end. I can see Disney figuring the have the clout to try $20.. but I really don't think the market will sustain a $20 service from one provider.
RPGCrazied
Member
No chance. Nobody would sign up for that.
BoogieWoogie
Banned
It's Disney though.
RPGCrazied
Member
Yeah, I'll be more then the other streaming services for sure, but not that high. Probably $14.99 and under.