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DisneyPrincess Mafia |OT| Mirror, Mirror on the Wall, Whos the Scummiest of Them All
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Yeah, I'm gonna go with Seath unless they can convince me otherwise.
Fluff and RPing can be fine, but you need to have posts with some actual content for once.
Vote: Seath
I was initially suspicious of Weemad, but that whole long post, despite the reasoning I don't agree with, at least seems to be genuinely trying to figure stuff out. So I'm not feeling that as much anymore.
Fluff and RPing can be fine, but you need to have posts with some actual content for once.
Vote: Seath
I was initially suspicious of Weemad, but that whole long post, despite the reasoning I don't agree with, at least seems to be genuinely trying to figure stuff out. So I'm not feeling that as much anymore.
flatearthpandas
Member
My reservation with Seath is one, he's more active than the majority, and also the last game I watched has a person with instructions from day one for RPing a role. What that says to me is just that this behavior isn't necessarily scum and not necessarily by choice. I'm not familiar with Seath, but there is worse behavior going on imo.
Royal_Flush
Member
What the panda says. Out of all the scummy people here, you choose Seath as the most scummy? Why? How is he more scummy than, let's say, Septimus Prime, Zatoth, Rynam or any of the other persons that barely made any contributions?
I'm not saying Seath is the worst option today, I just don't think he's a particulary good one either. Can someone explain this to me with arguments that can't be used 1:1 against like 4 other people?
I'm not saying Seath is the worst option today, I just don't think he's a particulary good one either. Can someone explain this to me with arguments that can't be used 1:1 against like 4 other people?
Because they (watch the pronouns, all) are very deliberately posting nothing. They're putting effort into their posts by finding gifs and inhabiting a character but that's it. It's not just complacency, it is active nothingness.
Also, screw it.
I'm Giselle. So they clearly aren't.
Also, screw it.
I'm Giselle. So they clearly aren't.
flatearthpandas
Member
Here we go! Ideally...
flatearthpandas
Member
Well, actually, i was pretty proud of our no over claim status. But now it might get interesting if anyone notices.
Dusk Soldier
Member
I don't think I'm going to move my vote around today, but obviously I'm open to it If someone can build a compelling case.
Dusk Soldier
Member
I think we were all assigned random princesses, but I doubt they have any correlation to our actual roles or alignments.
Hmm, it's hard for me to come up with a town/scum list at the moment because so far I've not had the chance to really get into the game and all my reads are very surface-level, but I think I can come up with a list of people I'd like to see continue on to day 2.
Darryl has been aggressive and pushing the conversation forward, and any accusation against him would have to be rock-solid to counteract that usefulness and convince me to vote him, which is just not going to happen on day 1. We can look at him again later but as long as he's an asset for town and not accused with legitimate reasons, I say he sticks around.
Seath is going somewhere with what they're doing, or at least I hope so, and I want to know what that something is. People who post obscurely are obvious easy lynch targets when we lack information to go against other players for more valid reason so I'm not immediately suspicious of those who're voting for them, but I'm curious, I want to know if they're going somewhere. Best case scenario they reveal their scheme before the day is over so my curiosity is satisfied and I have no problem seeing them lynched.
Royal_Flush I think has also been useful. I think he's concerning himself a bit too much with the newbies (Arthur's accusation/theory is not going to hold with this game's players), but he's useful and argumentative nonetheless and I appreciate it.
I don't think weemad are likely to be scum, freakinchair seems to be playing a better "town" game, but I'd still like to see both around; they're new, they're relatively active and they can become assets later (or slip up as noobs if either are scum).
I'm suspicious of Terra and Exodu5 mostly. One post's unpredictably and the other seems too safe. There's a ton of players I have no idea where you guys are getting reads from because they have like 2 posts and don't say much of anything. For now I'll keep my vote on Exdou5 and see where the vote swings towards at the end of the day (I'll be around) and switch my vote if appropriate.
Also, where'd Christina go? He was playing well but I feel like he disappeared the last couple of days.
Darryl has been aggressive and pushing the conversation forward, and any accusation against him would have to be rock-solid to counteract that usefulness and convince me to vote him, which is just not going to happen on day 1. We can look at him again later but as long as he's an asset for town and not accused with legitimate reasons, I say he sticks around.
Seath is going somewhere with what they're doing, or at least I hope so, and I want to know what that something is. People who post obscurely are obvious easy lynch targets when we lack information to go against other players for more valid reason so I'm not immediately suspicious of those who're voting for them, but I'm curious, I want to know if they're going somewhere. Best case scenario they reveal their scheme before the day is over so my curiosity is satisfied and I have no problem seeing them lynched.
Royal_Flush I think has also been useful. I think he's concerning himself a bit too much with the newbies (Arthur's accusation/theory is not going to hold with this game's players), but he's useful and argumentative nonetheless and I appreciate it.
I don't think weemad are likely to be scum, freakinchair seems to be playing a better "town" game, but I'd still like to see both around; they're new, they're relatively active and they can become assets later (or slip up as noobs if either are scum).
I'm suspicious of Terra and Exodu5 mostly. One post's unpredictably and the other seems too safe. There's a ton of players I have no idea where you guys are getting reads from because they have like 2 posts and don't say much of anything. For now I'll keep my vote on Exdou5 and see where the vote swings towards at the end of the day (I'll be around) and switch my vote if appropriate.
Also, where'd Christina go? He was playing well but I feel like he disappeared the last couple of days.
flatearthpandas
Member
I'd like to ask upfront people's opinion on Charleston. Do you think that what he said wasn't an upfront message to town? If he wasn't trying to say he was town, why mention being absent during a night phase? No one would notice except a scum team he was a part of and the moderator. And either of those could be resolved in other places. So why tell us unless he specifically wants us to think he's town. And if he's town, why not do anything useful with his posts? I also recognize that no one thinks I'm being useful. That doesn't bother me, but it also suggests it isn't worth taking any and for even informing the ignorant, please explain why this isn't worth a read at this point.
flatearthpandas
Member
I meant to say but neglected that I'm aware that a vote for Charleston can look very suspicious if he flips town. Someone so inactive is an easy target for scum if they already know he's town. But, there aren't many votes. He has contributed less than nothing. And we're closing in on day end and no one gives a shit. Why?
You mean this post, right?
I dunno, it doesn't seem that telling either way. Seems jokingly hypocritical. I don't think mentioning the full length of the trip and how that lines up with the game schedule is that weird?
I dunno, it doesn't seem that telling either way. Seems jokingly hypocritical. I don't think mentioning the full length of the trip and how that lines up with the game schedule is that weird?
Yeah I wouldn't read much into that one; I'm pretty sure you can find posts like those in all previous games and they won't correlate to alignment at all. GAFia sure does a lot of travelling 
also everyone wants to make everyone else think they're town, no weird behavior there.
Feel free to pursue that line of thought though; it's always good to have at least one player be suspicious of each one of us.
also everyone wants to make everyone else think they're town, no weird behavior there.Feel free to pursue that line of thought though; it's always good to have at least one player be suspicious of each one of us.
Vote: GreatCharleston
I am so sorry my sister!
So my good sister, that is such a bold claim. What I am concerned about is, have you found your true love's kiss?
I am so sorry my sister!
(I also make my own gifs)
So my good sister, that is such a bold claim. What I am concerned about is, have you found your true love's kiss?
Hes #1 on the contribute or get votes list tomorrow from my perspective. On D1, given the lack of information, its probably better to just vote for someone who at least has a chance to defend themselves.
I had a lot of time to think yesterday and my top two possibilities right now are:
Seath - Competing Giselle claim and not being helpful at all. Hinting at needing a true loves kiss (Could this actually be Tiana?)
Terra - If he had just voted for me, then itd be an OMGUS reaction. But he also voted for Gryvan, and both votes had no reasoning behind them. If it was to prod us to vote (or move off no lynch), then we had previously stated we were waiting to vote, or change the vote. Leads me to think, even though he was complaining about the lack of posts, he didnt read them fully in a best case scenario.
I had a lot of time to think yesterday and my top two possibilities right now are:
Seath - Competing Giselle claim and not being helpful at all. Hinting at needing a true loves kiss (Could this actually be Tiana?)
Terra - If he had just voted for me, then itd be an OMGUS reaction. But he also voted for Gryvan, and both votes had no reasoning behind them. If it was to prod us to vote (or move off no lynch), then we had previously stated we were waiting to vote, or change the vote. Leads me to think, even though he was complaining about the lack of posts, he didnt read them fully in a best case scenario.
Well, I don't have much of an opinion on Charleston. I don't think that the post is implying nearly as much as you're reading into it. He would just use scum chat if his communicating to them. Perhaps he just wanted to explain his absence? Low activity posters almost always slide through Day 1 because we have more to discuss from high activity posters. I'd certainly be concerned if he fails to contribute anything Day 2.
I'm sorry to doubt your GIF making abilities! That was uncouth of me. They're very nice.
But yeah, it may be bold, and obviously I can't prove it, but it is the truth. Which is not what you are peddling to the thread. I'll admit that Giselle was a pretty deep Disney cut that I had to look up when I got my PM, so I could see someone with a more insidious role picking her to masquerade as.
weemadarthur
Member
About Seath:
The behavior looks like a forced role.
Actually I can see an argument for a separate win condition, but it wouldn't specify alignment. I'm not sure what could be learned by voting them off? We'd see a role card, and....get no insight into anything but their own weird behavior.
I don't think the constant use of Giselle in gifs means they were claiming to BE giselle.
I have no intention of voting Seath at this point. I'll keep my vote with Darryl no matter how many bandwagon on them, because I think it's a dead end....for Day 1 anyway.
There's not much to be learned from removing Charleston either, but I'm not against a policy vote due to the lack of contribution before the away time. And, hey, he could be mafia.
I think we could learn from removing a low content poster who has hung around quite a bit. Royal's suggestions and explanations of septimus, rynam and Absolutbro make perfect sense. I also think zatoth is acting similarly. Perhaps they could remove my suspicions by posting useful things in the next couple of hours though.
Also Fireblend must be scum. How many times must I instruct you people on proper ways to address me before you STOP CALLING ME ARTHUR!!!!! Five exclamation points, the sure sign of a disturbed mind. You have actually driven me insane. We started out having so much fun together.
The behavior looks like a forced role.
Actually I can see an argument for a separate win condition, but it wouldn't specify alignment. I'm not sure what could be learned by voting them off? We'd see a role card, and....get no insight into anything but their own weird behavior.
I don't think the constant use of Giselle in gifs means they were claiming to BE giselle.
I have no intention of voting Seath at this point. I'll keep my vote with Darryl no matter how many bandwagon on them, because I think it's a dead end....for Day 1 anyway.
There's not much to be learned from removing Charleston either, but I'm not against a policy vote due to the lack of contribution before the away time. And, hey, he could be mafia.
I think we could learn from removing a low content poster who has hung around quite a bit. Royal's suggestions and explanations of septimus, rynam and Absolutbro make perfect sense. I also think zatoth is acting similarly. Perhaps they could remove my suspicions by posting useful things in the next couple of hours though.
Also Fireblend must be scum. How many times must I instruct you people on proper ways to address me before you STOP CALLING ME ARTHUR!!!!! Five exclamation points, the sure sign of a disturbed mind. You have actually driven me insane. We started out having so much fun together.
(I haven't posted any gifs that I made yet though, but thanks)
You never even answered my question!
Have you also found your prince?
Well my sister, it pains me that you think I'd try to be you. If you are who you are, I never claimed to be you.
The only me is me. Are you sure the only you is you?
I hope you find your true love's kiss and your prince~
:3
Sorry! I was sure I called you weemad in my previous post, and I did, but I also missed a correction when talking about flush right above it, my bad D:
As far as the pronouns, you guys and gals are welcome to call me he/she/it/they/them etc... I never really specified my pronouns, given that this is a Disney Princess Mafia game, it doesn't bother me how I am addressed. Don't worry about it as far as addressing me, I know it can be confusing at times so I just wanted to clear this. Let's have fun
For this game I also address you all as sisters, which I hope is fine, given that the theme is Disney princesses, so I hope that is okay with some of you and I'm not breaking any rules.
Thanks y'all! :3
Quite ironic given his post about lynching inactives.
For this game I also address you all as sisters, which I hope is fine, given that the theme is Disney princesses, so I hope that is okay with some of you and I'm not breaking any rules.
Thanks y'all! :3
Quite ironic given his post about lynching inactives.
He had said, gone from Thursday to Saturday, so unless something changes, no vote from him.
Lynching inactive people is boring. The fact that they exist itself is pretty undesirable of course, but lynching someone who we know absolutely nothing about yields no information for us and provides the scum team with initiative; they control what information to give us. Unfortunately we've had a pretty event-less game so I guess it's an acceptable option. I'd rather spend my energy defending the people who've made the game move forward rather than the third or so of the playerbase who's said next to nothing.
That said, I wouldn't say GreatCharleston's lynch would yield no information. I'm just somewhat disappointed at how little we're controlling the game due to the lack of discussion today and how inevitably arbitrary our first lynch is going to be. Which is partly my fault I'll admit.
That said, I wouldn't say GreatCharleston's lynch would yield no information. I'm just somewhat disappointed at how little we're controlling the game due to the lack of discussion today and how inevitably arbitrary our first lynch is going to be. Which is partly my fault I'll admit.
Yes, a town flip from an inactive lynch is likely. Consider that being part of a team makes you feel more of a commitment to post to not let your team down, and they themselves will be encouraging you to post and not turn yourself into an easy target. So I think there's less of a chance someone's scum if they're super inactive and seemingly not even trying.
Best case scenario, we lynch someone who was a pretty bad scum player to begin with.
Worst case scenario, we're doing scum's job for them because we're denying ourselves useful information, and they can follow that up with another inactive kill and put us in a situation in which we have as much info on day 2 than we have right now.
Royal_Flush
Member
People voting GC: Who of you makes this a policy vote and who gets actual scum votes from him?
Royal_Flush
Member
*scum vibes
weemadarthur
Member
Charleston didn't contribute anything really. There aren't any scum vibes other than an aggressive neglect. That could be a scumtell, but it's just as likely not.
My preference is to remove a middle of the road, safe poster. I find this post by zatoth more suspicious than chucky because it is a common tactic by mafia, that I've read. Pick on a poster that seems odd, pack up and go home for long periods of time, etc.
Ive decided unless things get a bit nutty over the next few hours...reasoning was explained in my last few posts.
VOTE: Terrabyte20xx
The only way I would switch to GC today is if Scum literally said, Hi, I am scum and so is GC. Even then, it would make more sense to vote for that horrible player because GC is not here tomorrow either.
VOTE: Terrabyte20xx
The only way I would switch to GC today is if Scum literally said, Hi, I am scum and so is GC. Even then, it would make more sense to vote for that horrible player because GC is not here tomorrow either.
Lone_Prodigy
Member
Votes for someone for posting a D1 reads list with him in the scum section? Sounds like an attempt to stifle discussion. What else are we going to talk about?
VOTE: Septimus Prime
P.S. Enchanted was an underrated movie.
AbsolutBro
Member
vote: Darryl
It's a D1 vote so it's not based on much. I also admit it's a bit of a meta vote, where both games I've seen him play super aggressive he's been scum, but while it gets some conversation going, it is always directed conversation: we generally talk about whoever Darryl targets. It's distracting.
It's a D1 vote so it's not based on much. I also admit it's a bit of a meta vote, where both games I've seen him play super aggressive he's been scum, but while it gets some conversation going, it is always directed conversation: we generally talk about whoever Darryl targets. It's distracting.
Christina Mackenzie
Member
So I didn't want to mention this since it's a rather short trip but I'm travelling at the moment. Will be back in the middle of Day 2.
Won't be around for end of the phase and I'm not going to be changing my vote. Maybe it'll be useful to keep Darryl around for now but I don't have any strong reasons to vote for anyone else. I got into trouble before for joining a bandwagon.
I believe it's an unwritten rule that we spare new players from D1 lynches unless they do something obviously scummy. Would like to hear more from euphemism on D2 as she's been the least active of the three.
It's been mention before, too much inactivity/low contribution from a lot of players so far, myself included. Will try and change that.
Seath... yeah, probably one to look into another day.
If you're planning on throwing out accusations of being stealth scum, I'm ready to PM yenny proof of my plane tickets.
Won't be around for end of the phase and I'm not going to be changing my vote. Maybe it'll be useful to keep Darryl around for now but I don't have any strong reasons to vote for anyone else. I got into trouble before for joining a bandwagon.
I believe it's an unwritten rule that we spare new players from D1 lynches unless they do something obviously scummy. Would like to hear more from euphemism on D2 as she's been the least active of the three.
It's been mention before, too much inactivity/low contribution from a lot of players so far, myself included. Will try and change that.
Seath... yeah, probably one to look into another day.
Royal_Flush
Member
If we come to a point where this is necessary I don't think I want to be part of this community any longer. But we're quite far from there as far as I can tell.
Yeah, I'll personally kick people out if they start being like that
That being said though, I'll need everyone to send me their home addresses so I can send out my team to implant your tracking chips.
Yeah, I'll personally kick people out if they start being like that
That being said though, I'll need everyone to send me their home addresses so I can send out my team to implant your tracking chips.
-Don't lie about real life stuff.
-Don't question real life stuff.
If everyone would follow those two simple rules, it should never become a problem.
weemadarthur
Member
I've gone back and read the posts by the middle of the road, safe players. That's a list that's three miles long. But I do think Zatoth is the most suspicious of them. However, I can't defend Terrabyte at all. His posts allegedly have reason, but he hasn't deigned to share any reasoning. I see little value in him overall.
Right now Terra has 4 votes
Darryl has 3
Bunch of ties at 2 votes
Right now Terra has 4 votes
Darryl has 3
Bunch of ties at 2 votes
There's been just over 2 pages of conversation. The only reason we're talking about who I'm talking about is because there's not a lot else to talk about. This "super aggressive" stuff drove me to essentially drop out of a season game before.