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DmC |OT| No, F*ck You!
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ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
the only thing with Inafune is that since he has left capcom, all he has worked on is typical "japanese" games. That suggests to me that there was alot of pressure from the top to make more money, and he just thought, "well western games sell, make western games!"
I don't think he was trying to fuck up capcom, he was simply the wrong man for his job. He couldn't meet the goals of capcom's corporate culture while nurturing capcoms development culture.
considering what happened to Ono following SF's Success and the SFxT Gem fiasco, im not sure all the bad decisions are all his fault
It also means Capcom is going to continue fucking up regardless.
I don't think he was trying to fuck up capcom, he was simply the wrong man for his job. He couldn't meet the goals of capcom's corporate culture while nurturing capcoms development culture.
considering what happened to Ono following SF's Success and the SFxT Gem fiasco, im not sure all the bad decisions are all his fault
It also means Capcom is going to continue fucking up regardless.
Typical Japanese games like an NG game outsourced to a western shovelware dev?
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
many would say that NG3 was shovelware, so its not like they can do any worse, plus its a legit spin off.
but yeah, I did forget about that TBH
call_kotaku
Member
From interviews it seems like a lot of Platinum's development philosophy is a result of their bad experiences with Capcom's corporate culture. "If our games don't make money then we just close the company (PG)" is how Inaba(?) described it, I think.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
yeah, I get the impression that platinum pride themselves on working to strick deadlines and on a shoestring budget too (comparatively)
thats why their games don't have to sell gangbusters. However, if revengence, the wonderful 101 and Bayo2 don't sell great, they may be in a real difficult position.
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
Bloody hell, I hope this is not a goddamn spoiler for this game :\\\\\\\\
It's not a spoiler. I mean it's very debatable if you could even classify him as such, at worst he has anti-social tendencies (that's the correct label, we don't really use sociopath much anymore).
R
Retro_
Unconfirmed Member
I don't know how many worked at Capcom
but in the Iwata Asks, Minami said they started the company with about 60 people, and of those original 60 only 30 members remain.(out of 200 employees)
Errrr... I don't think it's that dramatic
Remember Mikami, Kamiya and Inaba all resigned from their positions. Clover as a studio and as a brand was dissolved, but no one lost their job over it to my knowledge. All the employees were to be reintegrated back into their internal R&D studios
I had this beautiful fantasy in my mind that Platinum had 100 employees, and The Wonderful 101 was a game about me and Platinum fighting side by side!
And then we kissed.
ShockingAlberto
Member
I dunno, all his interviews since then have been "Japanese development has no chance against the west."
Which, true or not, does imply that he wasn't just making a quick follow-the-money process at Capcom.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
hmm reading some recent interviews you may have a point.
anyway
NPD final numbers.....
"about" 187k
ouch.
direct_quote
Member
Source? Or will it probably be posted next week.. (official numbers)
SnakeLinkSonic
Member
what a drag. NT just can't catch a break.
AcceptableGhost
Member
Great news.
It really is a different situation because unlike Lost Planet, Resident Evil used to be good once a upon a time.
KingItachi
Member
AcceptableGhost
Member
It is great news that it did badly.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
"about" bomba
Hope they didn't spend all their money on Dahbomb moneyhats
RIP DMC franchise
Rhazer Fusion
Member
RE6 definitely had it's issues, but I think it was clearly superior to LP2 and I actually liked LP2 for the most part.
KingItachi
Member
I'm petty for saying this, but yes it's good it's not selling atm.
You need to get out of this topic dude. All I see is you bashing on the game. While I vastly prefer DMC, DmC isn't downright terrible.
TheKaeptain
Banned
Wasn't just the media that did this...
Yowza.
I'm willing to bet putting Kobayashi back on the brand (after he and Team BASARA are done with Sengoku BASARA 4, at least) is sounding pretty good to Capcom about now.
Source please?
Here.
He has access to the numbers and posts tidbits for people. It's as good as we're probably gonna get, but reliable nonetheless.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
Please no.
Ah, I just saw it. Thanks.
Gotcha. Sorry, I should have checked there first.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
Neo_G save us.
I know you don't like it, and I would rather have better, too. But I really think it's the only way, barring the impossible happens, such as Capcom hitting up P* with an offer that they can't refuse...
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
So Ninja Theory is 3 of 3 three big budget titles that all failed.
I don't see it,I really don't. Capcom might be stupid but not that clueless when it's about losing money, and need to act fast, the beginning of a generation is good place for hack n slash,DMC still important brand and Capcom know that they can save if.
I'd say they will drop NT completely after their lose,and delay/cancel DD2 and immediately put the team on DMC5.
I don't see it,I really don't. Capcom might be stupid but not that clueless when it's about losing money, and need to act fast, the beginning of a generation is good place for hack n slash,DMC still important brand and Capcom know that they can save if.
I'd say they will drop NT completely after their lose,and delay/cancel DD2 and immediately put the team on DMC5.
If the game is performing badly when compared to its predecessors, why would Capcom invest more money in a sequel? The gambit was let NT make a reboot of the DMC franchise to hopefully reinvigorate the franchise... It didn't work out sales wise despite the positive reviews. The game's notoriety alone did a tremendous amount of damage which only furthered DmC's failing to take off and shutdown plans for a sequel potentially.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
Not going to happen. that is beyond wishful thinking
It's a bit sad to see a lot of people relishing the low NPD numbers and outright wishing for the worst for NT.
That would be tragic, considering DD is a remarkable game. Though I do find it amusing that after making a successful new IP, people want nothing to do with it and wish for them to return to making sequels.
This is why we can't have nice things.
That would be tragic, considering DD is a remarkable game. Though I do find it amusing that after making a successful new IP, people want nothing to do with it and wish for them to return to making sequels.
This is why we can't have nice things.
KingItachi
Member
And why should NT get any form of praise.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
Bingo.
Cause they made a good game?
That sounds pretty bad actually. I don't think I want an internally developed DmC2. I mean Japanese devs trying to emulate Western idealogies and style usually leads to some pretty cringeworthy stuff.
KingItachi
Member
We won't agree on this, I think the game is ok.
buddha0991
Member
Again, this whole saga has me jaded for both sides, lol.
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