DmC Review Thread (Release Date - 1/15/13) Embargo is over!
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LightofRohan
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What the hell? Come on people, because he stated "genuine reviews" you're all jumping down their throat. Like you really don't think the intense animosity towards this game is not going to generate reviews by people (that havent even played it) with the sole intention to just tear it apart? I wouldn't consider that genuine. I gotta lay off these DmC threads, you guys are insatiable nuts. I've never heard a community complain so feverishly w/ out end and still be accepted as sane throughout the boards... how many people were demeaned because they were upset about U3 getting an 8? Now we got an entire community losing their shit about a game receiving "high scores" and it's "A OK!". Neogaf...
http://www.game-over.com/content/2012/09/dark-souls-prepare-to-die-edition-review/
it does look like a blog site but their reviews seems to be counted on metacritic.
I thought the last nail on the coffin was the Doritosgate scandle.
I was admittedly thinking more of Persona 3 and 4, and to a lesser degree DQVII: those can take an hour or three to REALLY start. FFXIII though, yeah, that's more like it moves from uber streamlined to "something resembling a normal RPG" after 20-30 hours. Though that's more the fault of having a story that doesn't mesh well with what I imagine most want from an RPG.
Honestly, I've never really paid much attention to Geoff Keighley or cared for his opinions much when I did, while the crap that came out on the UK side, well, it sounds like UK games journalism is kind of a horrific mess anyway. Just find sites/people you generally agree with and stick with that.
Unspeakable Evil
Member
Same.
Charoncaori
Member
When I read reviews, it's to get a deep, well-supported opinion of a game. If I wanted snap judgements I'd watch quick looks or let's plays on youtube and make my own fucking snap judgements. That's not what reviewers are paid for.Journalists have an ability where they can tell the game is crap without actually spending time on it
I've given up on reviews for the most part. Instead, I pay attention to people whose opinions I trust, or I'll let myself be persuaded to give a game another look by particularly well-written forum or blog posts.
I'll eat my tiny chocolate hat if I ever end up buying this game, but I'm actually looking forward to some sort of writeup by Dahbomb.
It is shame that became doritosgate (where Keighly did nothing wrong, but that doritopope image sure is funny) instead of waingate became so popular.
Vincent Alexander
Member
I was kinda hoping the whole video was of him doing a normal show, and the Doritos and "Mtn" Dew were just... there. Like someone was a jerk and moved store props there before he started his show. But the bit with the Doritos and Dew did come off more as "I'm paid to tell you about this EXP stuff" and less "I'm paid to say Halo 4 is AWESOME AAAA BEST GAME OF THE CENTURY". So, whatever, I'm less angry over that and more amused at the Doritopope meme spawned from it.
bone_and_sinew
breaking down barriers in gratuitous nudity
Friend, I don't even read reviews anymore and stopped a couple years ago. I use a combination of playing demo, watching youtube footage, and reading impressions from users who's opinions I respect to gauge whether to buy a game.
This is what I mean. There is zero reason to pay attention to reviews in this day and age with all the tools available to you. Guys talking about metacritic scores make me laugh.
You think? Look at the other thread. Now that is golden shit. No filter, just a diarrhea of hatefest. I am suprised that Dahbomb even posts in there, saying ignored things like "hey guys, the game actually has great combat. Just no not on the level of previous DMC games."
OXM UK gave the game a 9/10
https://twitter.com/NinjaTheory/status/287520688158429185
It boils down to them hating what this game represents, more so than the game itself. The hatred this game gets is over the top.
It's very disappointing to see.
https://twitter.com/NinjaTheory/status/287520688158429185
It boils down to them hating what this game represents, more so than the game itself. The hatred this game gets is over the top.
It's very disappointing to see.
This is how I see this situation.
No, that was Xbox 360 Magazine. Yes, there's two 360 focused magazines in the UK.
Charoncaori
Member
I have nothing positive to say about the game, and I'm not buying it because of what it represents to me so I haven't been entering or posting in the threads for the last few months because I've already said all the shit I wanted to say.
I'm still curious to see what everyone else thinks about it, though.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
At this point I'm personally just here for the ride. For the most point I keep my thoughts on the actual game to myself and I'm just generally talking about the circumstances of its development and what it means for the franchise in the future.
But yes, what this game represents gives me a Much more bitter taste than the actual game itself at this point.
Like anyone from the UK is going to give this game a bad score. I don't follow reviews nor do I care/value them, but has any publication from the UK given this game a bad score? I don't care what anyone says, there's clearly some home turf respect/back scratching at play here. To say otherwise would be quite naive, in my opinion.
bone_and_sinew
breaking down barriers in gratuitous nudity
Yep same here. I've moved on past the anger stage into acceptance.
so what are you going to say when the US outlets give it good reviews?
Same w/ RE6. The terrible review scores were unjustified. RE6 game is decent at worst, and awesome if you really dig it. It's just people lashing out via reviews for other reasons.
they were high on mountain dew
Well, actually this IS true in some measure regarding DMC, since until you unlock Erix and (above all) Aquila, the playstyle doesn't really pan out, and until the game doesn't start trowing at you special property enemies like Dreamwalkers, Furies, Witches and Butchers, you don't really have to sweat much to go on. Add to that the latter half of the game contains very, few of the best levels, and well, the dreader "give it a few hours" rears its ugly head ^^'
Wait you have the game?
I don't know, they have bad taste, I guess? In the case of the UK reviewers, they are clearly proud of their local developer AND they most likely have poor taste.
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
Ah, naturally.
Honestly, I'm having a hard time take any of these claims of journalist ethics seriously. It ALWAYS depends on the game and the whether or not it's something the general gamer responds too. In this case DmC has skepticism surrounding it and anything positive people is treated with suspicion. But of course, these same folks who decry these reviews for DmC will be salivating over the positive reviews for MGR next month.
This witch hunt is ridiculous.
Can't trust US publications/websites giving US games good reviews. I don't care what anyone says, there's clearly some home turf respect/back scratching at play when US made games come are released. To say otherwise would be quite naive, in my opinion.
Criminal Upper
Banned
I try to spend as little time in DmC threads as possible, but over 20 pages?
Can someone please give me a brief of what just happened?
Can someone please give me a brief of what just happened?
No need. Already received my cheque
Writing my review for the mag in the next couple days
I cant play a DMC games with Xbox controllers.I tried with Bayonetta.
Cant believe this shit still goes on in 2013!
I'm just not sure why Ninja Theory is getting all the flack. Capcom has demonstrated a talent for fucking up their properties on either side of the Pacific in the last few years, so I don't know what people would prefer for the game. Mikami is gone. Kamiya is gone.
so all we gotta do is continue bitching about games you like and you'll stop your passive aggressive whining about the myriad of legitimate criticisms your sacred cows receive? You'll just up and leave?
neoGAF: Please turn it up to eleven. We can get something good out of this DmC farce.
Not me. Like I said, reviews don't mean shit to me. I'll just be happy when MGR releases because it's an actually good, CLASSY, Japanese action game.
EDIT:
True, true. You're right. Hey man, no need to be smart. As I've said, reviews are a joke to me. The bias is global. A friend of mine is making a game right now and I'll give him a few bumps and shout outs when he releases it, just like any good friend would. But seriously, what's come out of the UK that's actually been good/worth talking about? I sort of have a thing for Sony Cambridge, but they're practically dead right? Wipeout's kind of cool too, oh, but they're gone too! Wait, Rare used to be cool in the 90s!
To be honest the thread isn't just a review thread but a mega thread for all things DmC related.
Review thread started just like any other with some actual reviews. Most were 89-90 range reviews, generally pretty good and there was one which was a 7.5 Italian. Content of the review itself was fine but then NT put out a tweet saying "So glad that the game has gotten nothing below 89 from genuine reviews" essentially implying that the 7.5 review wasn't genuine. Right around the time they made the tweet, the Italian review was no longer there and got taken down. NT then put out another tweet clarifying that "some" people reviewed the game without actually getting reviews copy so their reviews might not be genuine... probably implying that the Italian site didn't get a copy.
In between there were quite a few leaks on the game by users from other forums.... some legit and some fake. Among them it was pretty much confirmed that Bloody Palace is not in the full retail game. There has also been some controversy over how long the game really is... numbers range from 6 hours to 15 hours.
Can you at least clear up how long it would take an average person to beat the game or how long it took you to beat it? There are a lot of different reports on it... it would be good to have a solid number from a reliable source.No need. Already received my cheque
Writing my review for the mag in the next couple days
Bayonetta is designed around the 360 controller so I don't see why you'd have a problem with it in that game.
I tried with Bayonetta.
Cant believe this shit still goes on in 2013!
ViewtifulJC
Banned
"HIDEKI KAMIYA IS NOT WALKING THROUGH THAT DOOR! SHINJI MIKAMI IS NOT WALKING THROUGH THAT DOOR!"
It's moronic posts like these that cause people to get annoyed with haters.