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Not the same reviewer right?

I think this one will land below DMC4 metacritic wise. Should be around Enslaved level which is what I pretty much expected to be honest. NT generally make average to good games.

For some reason most reviewers are really easy on NT so my bet is that DmC will be around DMC3 & DMC4, which will be funny and sad at the same time.

The only thing for sure is that the approach and the essence of "rebooting" big titles is changing as it seems for the worst, expect more & more dumbed down reboots next gen if titles like DmC, Splinter Cell: Blacklist & Tomb Raider do well review and sales wise.

We discuss a lot lately about how powerful the next gen systems will be and that's cool and exciting but when all the spec dust settles I think that things as far as software goes (especially the "AAA" games) are not looking bright...which is kinda sad since we'll probably gonna stick with a lot of auto games for monkeys in the most part with hardware that can do so much more than that. :/
 
Edge

These, though, are minor complaints in the context of the job Ninja Theory had on its hands. This, it was claimed after we first saw the new Dante, is a genre that could only truly be understood by Japanese studios, doomed to fail. What an overreaction that was to a makeover and some dubstep. This is the best entry in its genre since Bayonetta, and might just be the best game Ninja Theory has made to date.
 
Its not a comparison of quality, its just pointing out they're in the same genre.
You can compare things other than quality, I was not making any implications in that matter.

I refuse to acknowledge that Devil May Cry and Dante's Inferno share any similarities in genre other than "Action".
 
I refuse to acknowledge that Devil May Cry and Dante's Inferno share any similarities in genre other than "Action".

Yes, they're both action games... like it or not. Keep in mind the question I was answering.

This is the best entry in its genre since Bayonetta



They also both have a main character called Dante!!!!

That made me laugh harder than it should, poor antitrop.
 
They also both have a main character called Dante!!!!

And he's not the REAL Dante, too!

dante-b.bmp
 
If anything God damn Vanquish is more in the same genre as DMC than Dante's Inferno is.

crazy is a genre now?

DMC is stylish hard action, DMC2 is stylish high action, DMC3 is stylish crazy action. DMC4 I forgot. Those are official from Capcom. :D

Japanese developers like to make up nonsense genres for every game. Similar to survival horror, except people actually use that which pains me greatly.

Wow, genre classifications are so fucked.
 
Devil May Cry: Horror/Stylish Action
Devil May Cry 2: fart
Devil May Cry 3: Stylish Action/Holy Grail
Devil May Cry 4: Treadmill Simulator
DmC: Stylish Action/Industrial Dance Music Jukebox
DMC is stylish hard action, DMC2 is stylish high action, DMC3 is stylish crazy action. DMC4 I forgot. (much like the game itself) Those are official from Capcom. :D

Japanese developers like to make up nonsense Engrish genres for every game. Survival horror is one of them, except people actually use that which pains me greatly.
 
DMC is stylish hard action, DMC2 is stylish high action, DMC3 is stylish crazy action. DMC4 I forgot. Those are official from Capcom. :D

Japanese developers like to make up nonsense genres for every game. Similar to survival horror, except people actually use that which pains me greatly.
...Climax Action...
 
It reasons to mention that these rather high DmC scores set the stage for the coming PG darling Metal Gear Rising in a short while.

Really, any MGR scores underneath these 8's and 9's of DmC would be rather shocking and disappointing. Think about it, we're comparing Ninja Theory to Platinum Games.
 
DMC is stylish hard action, DMC2 is stylish high action, DMC3 is stylish crazy action. DMC4 I forgot. Those are official from Capcom. :D

Japanese developers like to make up nonsense genres for every game. Similar to survival horror, except people actually use that which pains me greatly.

These actually seem pretty accurate, considering that DMC1 is incredibly hard, whoever enjoyed DMC2 is incredibly high, DMC3 is absolutely crazy, and everyone forgets most of DMC4! :D

As for the third-person action debate, I don't really think God of War or Dante's Inferno count. That's not a knock against the games (well, maybe DI) but they're not really the same. DMC is much more technical, whereas the GoW style of game reminds me more of brawlers/beat 'em ups/what have you. It's sort of like comparing Forza and Outrun, although less extreme.

Off the top of my head the only western game I can think of that riffs specifically on DMC is the Van Helsing game.
 
Wow, genre classifications are so fucked.
Yeah, countless threads of "no this is survival horror NO YOU'RE WRONG THAT ISN'T SURVIVAL HORROR THIS IS SURVIVAL HORROR" have sort of clued me into that when you find out what survival horror "is" -- a made up genre spawned from language barrier issues and marketing.
 
It reasons to mention that these rather high DmC scores set the stage for the coming PG darling Metal Gear Rising in a short while.

Really, any MGR scores underneath these 8's and 9's of DmC would be rather shocking and disappointing. Think about it, we're comparing Ninja Theory to Platinum Games.

Anarchy Reigns has been getting lackluster reviews. Platinum Games isn't indefensible. Actually, it's not much even to credit Platinum Games...it's basically Hideki Kamiya. I credit Mikami for doing well with Vanquish, kind of - but I've never been hyped for MG:Rising due to Platinum Games involvement itself. Kamiya has nothing to do with Rising, and he's Platinum Games superstar. It's the equivalent of DMC2, Capcom made it, but the head guys that were involved with DMC1 weren't with DMC2. Still a Capcom game, but it sucked.
 
It reasons to mention that these rather high DmC scores set the stage for the coming PG darling Metal Gear Rising in a short while.

Really, any MGR scores underneath these 8's and 9's of DmC would be rather shocking and disappointing. Think about it, we're comparing Ninja Theory to Platinum Games.

I don't see how that would be possible unless you have stupid as fuck journalist still thinking Metal Gear Solid = Metal Gear Rising(There are still gaming journalist that complain about it not being MGS enough lol)Besides they said they wanted to compete with bayonetta and looking at the meta scores so far they're 5 points and 30 frames off.

Anarchy Reigns has been getting lackluster reviews. Platinum Games isn't indefensible. Actually, it's not much even to credit Platinum Games...it's basically Hideki Kamiya. I credit Mikami for doing well with Vanquish, kind of - but I've never been hyped for MG:Rising due to Platinum Games involvement itself. Kamiya has nothing to do with Rising, and he's Platinum Games superstar. It's the equivalent of DMC2, Capcom made it, but the head guys that were involved with DMC1 weren't with DMC2. Still a Capcom game, but it sucked.

One person doesn't make a game alone.I'm sure he has good input and i'm not discrediting what he's done but the way you guys talk about one person like the credits list don't have other names is pretty laughable.
 
I don't see how that would be possible unless you have stupid as fuck journalist still thinking Metal Gear Solid = Metal Gear Rising(There are still gaming journalist that complain about it not being MGS enough lol)Besides they said they wanted to compete with bayonetta and looking at the meta scores so far they're 5 points and 30 frames off.

It's mostly received positive previews. The only thing that might weigh it down is its difficulty, as several previews have pointed out that it's pretty hard. So it could go through what the original DMC3 went through.
 
It reasons to mention that these rather high DmC scores set the stage for the coming PG darling Metal Gear Rising in a short while.

Really, any MGR scores underneath these 8's and 9's of DmC would be rather shocking and disappointing. Think about it, we're comparing Ninja Theory to Platinum Games.

Not directed by Kamiya, yo.


edit: beaten
 
It reasons to mention that these rather high DmC scores set the stage for the coming PG darling Metal Gear Rising in a short while.

Really, any MGR scores underneath these 8's and 9's of DmC would be rather shocking and disappointing. Think about it, we're comparing Ninja Theory to Platinum Games.

Well, one week ago people were "shocked and disoriented" by DmC turning out to be a good game, so it could very well happen.
 
It reasons to mention that these rather high DmC scores set the stage for the coming PG darling Metal Gear Rising in a short while.

Really, any MGR scores underneath these 8's and 9's of DmC would be rather shocking and disappointing. Think about it, we're comparing Ninja Theory to Platinum Games.

Prepared to be shocked and disappointed then. :P
 
Not directed by Kamiya, yo.


edit: beaten
I'm aware. Never thought he was in the first place.

My original point is that the expectations of Rising are higher than DmC. And now DmC is coming in at a relatively high bar, therefore it will be interesting to see how they stack up.
Somehow that all got twisted into what games Hideki Kamiya has and has not directed.
 
Great scores. Switched my pre-order to the 360 version. You could tell from the demo alone that the PS3 version is inferior, but there was always the glimmer of hope that it would be improved before the game went gold. Ah well.

Devil May Cry: Horror/Stylish Action
Devil May Cry 2: fart
Devil May Cry 3: Stylish Action/Holy Grail
Devil May Cry 4: Treadmill Simulator
DmC: Stylish Action/Industrial Dance Music Jukebox

If there's ever a special edition of this game out in the future, with all the DLC included in one tidy bundle and superlative scores adorned all over the front cover, then Capcom really needs to call it DmC: The Industrial Dance Music Jukebox Edition.
 
DMC is stylish hard action, DMC2 is stylish high action, DMC3 is stylish crazy action. DMC4 I forgot. (much like the game itself) Those are official from Capcom. :D

Japanese developers like to make up nonsense Engrish genres for every game. Survival horror is one of them, except people actually use that which pains me greatly.

http://www.capcom.co.jp/devil4/

Looks like DMC4 is just "stylish action". Booooring. :(

Edit: http://www.capcom.co.jp/dmc/index.html

DmC is also "stylish action".
 
DMC: Stylish Resident Evil
DMC2: Shoot things and stand still.
DMC3: THIS PARTYS GETTIN CRAZY!
DMC4: This party... is slow. Until Dante crashes it and makes it better.

So I guess the verdict on DmC is "Pretty good gameplay, embarrassing dialogue and story." right?
 
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