Also Adrift, Fragments, and Exit Wounds, which were superb. Chibnall has certainly turned in some crap over the years, but he's very capable of writing some great stuff, too (and both of his Life on Mars episodes were great).
Chibnall also wrote "42", and I thought that was a pretty good episode.
If "The Girl Who Waited" has taught me anything, don't let past writer experience fool you.
Also Adrift, Fragments, and Exit Wounds, which were superb. Chibnall has certainly turned in some crap over the years, but he's very capable of writing some great stuff, too (and both of his Life on Mars episodes were great).
I thought the latter wasn't too bad, but I recall that people ripped it apart here.
Cyberwoman (and, well, many Torchwood and more than a few DW eps) was something that I really liked in concept but that fell far short of actual execution. I mean, it aimed to give that kinda cool background guy a backstory and tried to show how emotions could interfere with judgment in a crisis situation, and had a pretty decent moral at its core. But then everything that I wrote just now went horribly wrong.
After seeing that puerile piece of shit all those years ago, I stopped watching Torchwood and never, ever went back. It convinced be that the show was irredeemable garbage, and not worth my time, ever.
Its rare that a television series can provide a single episode so offensively bad that it makes me determined to never inflict the show on myself again, but there you are.
In my personal Doctor Who canon, Torchwood doesn't exist thankfully.
First three seasons of Torchwood are EXCELENT [there are crappy episodes, but every show has a few]. S3 is especially awesome. Whatever you do, dont expect happy things to happen.
Fourth season [the latest one] has a big problem with pacing.
I tried to watch Torchwood but simply couldn't get into it. It felt charmless, like some B-grade science fiction show that never really is capable of hitting a stride, nor a climax, worth watching. Perhaps unfair, but that's how it felt.
It was just how dark and fucked up it was. I loved how it tried to show how the government and the world would deal with a situation like that and the ramifications it would have on society.
That was one of the nice aspects of Miracle Day as well, but they fumbled that one about halfway through.
It was just how dark and fucked up it was. I loved how it tried to show how the government and the world would deal with a situation like that and the ramifications it would have on society.
Similar things occur in Miracle Day. Discussing how to handle the sick and previously dying. How to handle food shortages now that the population is not going down, etc. Scenes and situations like that are so interesting when they do them right. It is too bad that Miracle Day started to collapse on itself.
Similar things occur in Miracle Day. Discussing how to handle the sick and previously dying. How to handle food shortages now that the population is not going down, etc. Scenes and situations like that are so interesting when they do them right. It is too bad that Miracle Day started to collapse on itself.
The problem with Miracle Day is that we didn't get enough of that stuff, and too much of the silly CIA conspiracy story line. If Miracle Day had been more like Children of Earth in that regard, it could have been amazing.
The problem with Miracle Day is that we didn't get enough of that stuff, and too much of the silly CIA conspiracy story line. If Miracle Day had been more like Children of Earth in that regard, it could have been amazing.
Miracle Day was far too long. So cutting out the CIA stuff and focusing on the social ramifications of it while Jack and co. tried to solve it would have helped a lot. I still dont like how it all ended.
Miracle Day was far too long. So cutting out the CIA stuff and focusing on the social ramifications of it while Jack and co. tried to solve it would have helped a lot. I still dont like how it all ended.
The highs are worth it. It can drag on at times, but there are some pretty good moments within. Just don't go in expecting something on par with Children of Earth, because it isn't really on that level.
I recently discovered Doctor Who and have been marathoning seasons of it since the 2005 (or was it 2006?) revival.
Impressions at first were so-so. I wasn't a fan of the chick. She had that daddy thing going on, and her mother annoyed the shit out of me. Also, something about her mouth always sticking out in an odd way kept nagging at me (personal pet peeve).
I did like the guy that played that version of Doctor Who, though. Thought he did a great job. Then, when he changed to the new one, I was kind of put off as I didn't expect a whole new Doctor like that (again, first time watching the series without knowing anything about it before watching).
The new guy grew on me, though, and his sidekick girls all were better than the first. The black chick, especially, was far more attractive and played her role really well. I watched the End of Time movies and thought those were a fantastic way to end things on that arc, though I was sad when
he went and visited everyone and was sitting in the Tardis by himself all like "I don't wanna go". Truly felt bad for the guy, as I didn't want him to go either.
By the way, does anyone know who
that woman was on the right side in the End of Time movie at the end? The old guy asks, but Doctor Who avoids the question.
This latest Doctor has grown on me, though I thought he looked weird at first and didn't really fit the look of The Doctor. The writing was great, though, and he grew on me quickly. Also, new girl is super cute and it's a damn shame that she's getting phased out in the next season.
Now, Torchwood. After finishing Doctor Who, I figured I'd give it a whirl. Immediately I noticed the following:
1. All of the characters are annoying, especially Gwynn.
2. The writing is nowhere near as good as Doctor Who.
3. A lot of the story is full of holes, and it's annoying how after watching 3 seasons of this fucking show we still don't know shit about Jack.
4. Not enough aliens / low budget. For a show about combating aliens, there was a remarkable lack of variety.
5. Cyberwoman. 'Nough said.
That being said, because I'm still somehow hoping for some kind of real info on Jack's past, I'm about to watch season 4. I may be masochistic.
I feel that it could be re-edited into a two to three hour pseudo-documentary that is completely mindblowing save for having an incredibly weak ending.
By the way, does anyone know who that woman was on the right side in the End of Time movie at the end? The old guy asks, but Doctor Who avoids the question.
If you're talking about the mystery lady who keep appearing and chatting with Wilf: In an interview, the show's creator said "it's meant to be the Doctor's mother".
I did like the guy that played that version of Doctor Who, though. Thought he did a great job. Then, when he changed to the new one, I was kind of put off as I didn't expect a whole new Doctor like that (again, first time watching the series without knowing anything about it before watching).
My friends, who were not Doctor Who fans to the point of almost being anti-fans, were like "Pffff, they can't even keep their actors" when they heard about that.
This latest Doctor has grown on me, though I thought he looked weird at first and didn't really fit the look of The Doctor.
I like this, because neither of the other two Doctors that you saw really looked the part, either. He's supposed to be a grumpy but goofy old guy, not some pretty boy. Or, more accurately, the definition of what a Doctor should be is redefined for an audience every few years. Nowadays, a grumpy but goofy old guy would seem totally out of place, even though you can list four or five Doctors who could fit that description.
If you're talking about the mystery lady who keep appearing and chatting with Wilf: In an interview, the show's creator said "it's meant to be the Doctor's mother"
I like this, because neither of the other two Doctors that you saw really looked the part, either. He's supposed to be a grumpy but goofy old guy, not some pretty boy. Or, more accurately, the definition of what a Doctor should be is redefined for an audience every few years. Nowadays, a grumpy but goofy old guy would seem totally out of place, even though you can list four or five Doctors who could fit that description.
Ah, what I suspected but wasn't sure. Thanks for the info.
Also, I don't think he necessarily needs to be young or old, I just thought this latest incarnation of The Doctor just looked a bit out of place compared to the last two. He grew into the role well, though, so he gets props for good acting skills.
Ah, what I suspected but wasn't sure. Thanks for the info.
Also, I don't think he necessarily needs to be young or old, I just thought this latest incarnation of The Doctor just looked a bit out of place compared to the last two. He grew into the role well, though, so he gets props for good acting skills.
Interesting. Many people thought that Chris Eccleston (your first, the one with the ears and leather jacket) was pretty out of place when he started. And I saw lots of criticism that Matt Smith (the current one, with the chin and the pretty companion who keeps dying) was too similar to David Tennant (the one who's so often so sorry), that he didn't have enough to set him as different from his predecessor.
But, yeah, the people in power seem to have a knack for getting actors with good enough chops to handle the role splendidly
Interesting. Many people thought that Chris Eccleston (your first, the one with the ears and leather jacket) was pretty out of place when he started. And I saw lots of criticism that Matt Smith (the current one, with the chin and the pretty companion who keeps dying) was too similar to David Tennant (the one who's so often so sorry), that he didn't have enough to set him as different from his predecessor.
But, yeah, the people in power seem to have a knack for getting actors with good enough chops to handle the role splendidly
Smith seemed too similar to Tennant when we first met him, but I think he's become his own character quite nicely. Now whether I particularly like that character is a different matter...
Interesting. Many people thought that Chris Eccleston (your first, the one with the ears and leather jacket) was pretty out of place when he started. And I saw lots of criticism that Matt Smith (the current one, with the chin and the pretty companion who keeps dying) was too similar to David Tennant (the one who's so often so sorry), that he didn't have enough to set him as different from his predecessor.
But, yeah, the people in power seem to have a knack for getting actors with good enough chops to handle the role splendidly
Technically Ten wasn't "so sorry". In the beginning he was just as vengeful as Nine and it took Donna to calm him down, and even then he could be dark when needed. Eleven has just been goofy from day one.
Smith seemed too similar to Tennant when we first met him, but I think he's become his own character quite nicely. Now whether I particularly like that character is a different matter...
Oh, yes, this is certainly true. Smith has, when needed, an excellent knack for suddenly seeming like an very old, well-seasoned man. And then there's that thing where he tries to ingratiate himself into Human customs now and again (and failing miserably at it!).
In the beginning he was just as vengeful as Nine and it took Donna to calm him down, and even then he could be dark when needed. Eleven has just been goofy from day one.
I don't know It felt to me that his shift happened pretty much after his first episode. He seemed pretty vicious in that one special, but then he seemed to very quickly forget about that aspect of his character. But then I haven't seen his early episodes in a while.
If you didn't like at least CoE, Miracle Day will drive you up the damn wall. It's like Children of Earth bookending series 1.
That said, how do you feel about the storyline 11th Doctor went through this season? I'm always interested in hearing the opinion of someone who just jumped in blindly, with no prejudice or previous knowledge of the show/Doctors.
Oh, and Christopher Eccleston > *, so I agree with you there.
If you didn't like at least CoE, Miracle Day will drive you up the damn wall. It's like Children of Earth bookending series 1.
That said, how do you feel about the storyline 11th Doctor went through this season? I'm always interested in hearing the opinion of someone who just jumped in blindly, with no prejudice or previous knowledge of the show/Doctors.
Oh, and Christopher Eccleston > *, so I agree with you there.
I really enjoyed this most recent season, and I'm looking forward to the next. Seeing him
die in the beginning and then with Amy trying to keep it a secret throughout was great. Also, discovering that what's-her-face was Amy's daughter from the future and that they kept wandering away from each other every time they met was a very cool scenario.
The only thing I didn't like about this last season was the one episode where
Amy was trapped in time because she pressed the red button instead of the green. I thought that episode was kind of dumb.
It took me an entire season to get used to the new Doctor, but as I said, he grew on me and I have no problems with him now. One of the major issues I had was that I didn't want the End of Time before going to this next season, so I completely missed the transition. I was just like "WTF? When did that happen?" and was expecting some kind of explanation that never came.
Also, Amy's daughter was
hotter before she regenerated to the woman we've gotten used to. Kind of old looking.
Yeah, I'll miss Amy. She looked damn good in that police uniform too when she first appeared. I hope Rose never makes another appearance, as she always reminds me of this:
Yeah, I'll miss Amy. She looked damn good in that police uniform too when she first appeared. I hope Rose never makes another appearance, as she always reminds me of this:
I dunno. I dig her eyes, lips and legs. If she had blonde hair, I'd just think she needed to tan a bit. But a pale, beautiful redhead is a rarity, so I embrace that.
I think her personality also increases her attractiveness.
I really enjoyed this most recent season, and I'm looking forward to the next. Seeing him
die in the beginning and then with Amy trying to keep it a secret throughout was great. Also, discovering that what's-her-face was Amy's daughter from the future and that they kept wandering away from each other every time they met was a very cool scenario.
The only thing I didn't like about this last season was the one episode where
Amy was trapped in time because she pressed the red button instead of the green. I thought that episode was kind of dumb.
Well, we disagree overall on the story, even though you bring up some of the subtle touches I also liked, but you and I do see eye to eye on the episode where Rory and the Doctor have to rescue Amy from being lost in time, so you're alright in my books.
Also, Amy's daughter was
hotter before she regenerated to the woman we've gotten used to. Kind of old looking.
Well, we disagree overall on the story, even though you bring up some of the subtle touches I also liked, but you and I do see eye to eye on the episode where Rory and the Doctor have to rescue Amy from being lost in time, so you're alright in my books.
She regenerates into
Alex Kingston because that's who played River in Silence in the Library with 10.
. Wonder if 11 will go back there and the Silence will be mucking about...
I've been watching season 4 of Torchwood and they're still doing the cell phone thing which is annoying the shit out of me. It's like, "Oh hey, I'm supposed to be under deep cover, but I'm going to go ahead and keep making phone calls that put myself and others in jeopardy." Random CIA girl who blogs for a living (per her own words) crying in the middle of the mission is also pissing me off. It would be great if they just killed her off in the end - she's a shitty character.
Rex actually says it best in the show. "Now SHE'S on the telephone?! What the hell is wrong with you people?"
Also, Rhys is completely irrelevant in this season other than the occasional "Let me talk to the baby" phone call.
I've been watching season 4 of Torchwood and they're still doing the cell phone thing which is annoying the shit out of me. It's like, "Oh hey, I'm supposed to be under deep cover, but I'm going to go ahead and keep making phone calls that put myself and others in jeopardy." Random CIA girl who blogs for a living (per her own words) crying in the middle of the mission is also pissing me off. It would be great if they just killed her off in the end - she's a shitty character.
Rex actually says it best in the show. "Now SHE'S on the telephone?! What the hell is wrong with you people?"
Also, Rhys is completely irrelevant in this season other than the occasional "Let me talk to the baby" phone call.
Jack is almost certain for the anniversary special, there's no way they'd leave him out. Besides that though, Moff really wanted a reboot and is happy with not bringing back any themes or crossovers like RTD did. (As much as I'd love to see a Who episode with Mekhi, Barrowman and Eve in between companions in a two parter before Eleven gets his new companion)
The reaction to this episode intrigues me, because it's one of the biggest Marmite episodes this side of Love & Monsters. Some really hate it, and some (such as myself) think it's a stone-cold classic. I mean, I'd easily put it on the NuWho podium, and it may even be first depending on how I feel about Gridlock and The God Complex on any given day. The writer of The Girl Who Waited has been dropping heavy hints on Twitter that he's writing for series 7, and I will be thrilled if he is; he's come a hell of a way since Rise of the Cybermen.
The Doctor's Wife, A Good Man Goes To War and The Girl Who Waited have all made the shortlist for the Hugos, BTW.
The reaction to this episode intrigues me, because it's one of the biggest Marmite episodes this side of Love & Monsters. Some really hate it, and some (such as myself) think it's a stone-cold classic. I mean, I'd easily put it on the NuWho podium, and it may even be first depending on how I feel about Gridlock and The God Complex on any given day. The writer of The Girl Who Waited has been dropping heavy hints on Twitter that he's writing for series 7, and I will be thrilled if he is; he's come a hell of a way since Rise of the Cybermen.
The Doctor's Wife, A Good Man Goes To War and The Girl Who Waited have all made the shortlist for the Hugos, BTW.
Yeah, just didn't do it for me. One of my favorite episodes out of the reboot seasons was the one where they were trapped on the ship with all the mirrors looking back in time and Doctor Who kept popping in at different parts of this woman's life. I thought that was extremely well done.
