The 2009 Specials were released on blu-ray. Planet of the Dead to The End of Time were filmed in HD, The Next Doctor was upscaled (looks pretty shitty, but manageable).
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Doctor Who Series Seven |OT| The Question You've Been Running From All Your Life
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The 2009 Specials were released on blu-ray. Planet of the Dead to The End of Time were filmed in HD, The Next Doctor was upscaled (looks pretty shitty, but manageable).
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The Autumn Wind
*raises hand*
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Oh, I forgot to mention that James Marsters said that John Barrowman is the best kisser. Even over SMG.
Barrowman wins at EVERYTHING.
Barrowman wins at EVERYTHING.
Watching series 5 again is pretty awesome. Things feel so fresh again.
Kind of sucks that they decided to ditch the "Doctor's POV" view with the continuous snapshots leading up to Rory in the Eleventh Hour. Though, it is very time consuming.
Time of Angels and Flesh and Stone were great episodes. You really feel the dread when they were in the cavern, and you see the Doctor and River's realization that all those statues were actually Angels.
Moffat really brings his A-game for the Weeping Angels.
Kind of sucks that they decided to ditch the "Doctor's POV" view with the continuous snapshots leading up to Rory in the Eleventh Hour. Though, it is very time consuming.
Time of Angels and Flesh and Stone were great episodes. You really feel the dread when they were in the cavern, and you see the Doctor and River's realization that all those statues were actually Angels.
Moffat really brings his A-game for the Weeping Angels.
So that'd be...ending of season 4? Gotcha, thanks.
Seven Force
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I know a handful of people who did exactly this.
Exterminieren
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Moving from watching Torchwood series 1 and 2 to watching series 5 of Who?
Man, what an upgrade.
Man, what an upgrade.
StalkerUKCG
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Its a crying shame Torchwood did not have more of James Masters character.
Bobby Roberts
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Going in any direction from Torchwood Season 2 is an upgrade. Going back to Eccleston? You win. Starting with Tennant? You win. Jumping to Smith? You win. Continuing on to Children of Earth? You Win!
Just don't skip over Children of Earth and land on Miracle Day. That... is not an upgrade.
Miracle Day was basically a waste of everyone's time. It really was some of the worst sci-fi I've even had the misfortune to watch =/
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There is great Torchwood. There is decent Torchwood. There is bad Torchwood. There is terrible Torchwood.
Miracle Day was the biggest example of disappointing Torchwood. So much raw potential, so efficiently squandered.
Miracle Day was the biggest example of disappointing Torchwood. So much raw potential, so efficiently squandered.
frankie_baby
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to me miracle day was pretty good, nothing mind blowing but good none the less, it suffered terribly though from following children of earth, how the fuck do you top that
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I'd argue one of Torchwood's biggest crimes is sapping Jack of much of his charisma and likability, actually.
Rhys and PC Andy, on the other hand, are massively likable. Their bigger roles in Children of Earth was much appreciated.
The overall concept is such a slamdunk, though. No one can die! Fantastic! They could do so many interesting stories with that!
Instead, they stripped all the aliens out, inserted a liberal dose of bland CIA characters, and stretched it out to unbearable levels. They actually had filler! In the second episode of the series!
One of the many reasons Children of Earth was so great was because there wasn't an inch of fat to be found in the entire miniseries. The scale kept escalating and escalating, and it being scheduled over the week helped with the momentum. Miracle Day was languid and navel-gazing by comparison.
I'd watch that, and to be honest at this point I'm not sure if we will see Torchwood again, lol; but after the mess that was Miracle Day sadly I'm not sure I really care that much either, especially when Children of Earth was pretty good.
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That Demon's Run minisode seemed to be a mission statement for a spinoff to me.
No way Moffat has time for it, though.
The Technomancer
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Man I just don't like Vrastra and Jenny (and Strax is...eh, I waffle). I guess yeah, sure, it could happen, but I wouldn't be a proponent for it
I support this.
Jenny and Vastra already has a pretty loyal and fierce fanbase and that happened after their first debut, with Strax it's just perfect. Definitely would work.
Problem is as pointed out who would do it, Moffat is definitely tackling enough. I'm amazed he even did Sherlock considering how much of a chore producing Doctor Who is always made out to be.
Bobby Roberts
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I think it was a weird sort of catch-22. To make it, they needed Starz money - or at the least, they wanted that Starz money. But in order to get that money, they needed to stretch out the concept to twice its optimal length.
So they got the money, stretched it out, and nobody left happy because everything was just awful. Plus it took Jack's status as a fixed point in time and basically midichlorian'd the shit out of it, to much the same effect.
But yes, the Jack that was in Doctor Who bears little resemblance to the Jack in Torchwood, and the Jack in Torchwood is almost NOTHING like the Jack in Miracle Day. Hell, he's barely a character.
Moffat has the advantage (disadvantage?) of Sherlock being on a slightly shorter production schedule than Doctor Who, which requires 10 months a year.
EleventhDoctor
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As much as I love them-I think they work best as supporting characters on doctor who-not as leads, carrying their own series.
Then again they made a show about K9 so what do I know.
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We DO NOT talk of this.
Worthintendo
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I must be the only one who liked Season 2 of Torchwood. I'll agree season 1 was a mess and all over the place. Had a few good episoded but for the most part was rubbish.
Season 2 on the other hand was really great. It really fleshed out the characters and made them all likeable (barring Gwen). Heck it made me like Owen, I despised him in season 1, but in season 2 he was a really great part of the cast. He had an amazing character arc and the final scenes with him and Tosh talking to each other as they are both about to die is really heartbreaking.
Bobby Roberts
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No, I like Season 2 of Torchwood as well. It's definitely better than Season 1. It's just that the things I named are all better than Torchwood S2. I don't know if I'd call S2 "great" but it's definitely more fun, and more cohesive, than S1 was.
Basically, I was trying to describe a win-win scenario: You just finished a season of pretty good sci-fi television. Almost anywhere you go from there, in-universe, is going to be just as good, if not better.
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I will say that series 2 has one of my favourite episodes of anything ever, in the form of Something Borrowed.
Mad as a bag of hammers, but really fun.
Mad as a bag of hammers, but really fun.
Worthintendo
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I dunno, I liked it, was really kinda tragic, he summed it up pretty well when he said while Jack might get to live forever, he gets to die forever. Watching him great frustrated at what is going to happen with his life(death) is quite awesome and completely redeems the character. The fact that he can't get himself injured or damaged as his body won't heal itself was a cool touch as well .
StalkerUKCG
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Ugh Vastra is terrible I wish Moffat would stop using her.
Future Foundation
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It's so funny that we're talking Torchwood, and BBC America is doing a Torchwood marathon right now. All night, through tomorrow evening - and they'll be hitting CoE as well.
PhoncipleBone
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Bah. I love the character.
GameplayWhore
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I must highly disagree here. I thought that the story was largely crap, and the resolution was underwhelming*, but the actual sci-fi bits people dealing with the new situation, applying reverse triage in a situation where the regular rules of health care don't apply, and so forth were pretty brilliant.
Frankly, it would be rather great if there was a fanedit that took all Torchwood elements out of the miniseries and just tried to montage all the bits dealing with the crisis.
Series 2 was when they started actually trying. The series started to actually get a feel for what it wanted to be (other than, you know, sexy monsters from outer space and so forth), and I think that Children of Earth would not have been possible without the developments they had in this season, despite the difference in characters
from everybody dying at the end of the season
the way too convenient "Jack has heretofore unannounced family" which would have made for a better ending if brought up well before the miniseries
Yeah, that's Strax on point. I like when he's continuously trying to apply situations he's in to what he views as Sontaran mores, but I hate when they write him as a straight dopey comic relief.
Also, I'm feeling that they push Jenny and Vastra's romantic element so hard that it overshadows any actual character development they get. At this point, it feels to me that one of them would have to die for the other to actually grow.
* I really liked the guy who
didn't die
broadwayrock
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No one posted the tweets from Sophia Myles yet?
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/s7/d...es-tweets-about-calls-from-steven-moffat.html
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/s7/d...es-tweets-about-calls-from-steven-moffat.html
So I guess Doctor Who just won a Peabody Award.
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If Myles had anything to do with the Anniversary Special, she wouldn't be allowed to tweet about it. That stuff's on tight lockdown.
Myles and Moffat are friends, so this is probably just a joke.
Myles and Moffat are friends, so this is probably just a joke.
Agree with this post wholeheartedly.
EleventhDoctor
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I felt that Children of Earth was one of the best modern Science Fiction stories I had ever seen.
And Miracle Day was a total piece of shit.
And Miracle Day was a total piece of shit.
I agree with this statement. Torchwood with no aliens...WTF?
Aren't we all aliens when our planet is a giant space vagina that can make people immortal?
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The plot was started and resolved by a magical giant Earth vagina.
No, that is not a joke.
I love Strax but why do they always have to make the Vastra/Jenny relationship so obnoxious? It's like it's their whole purpose. They're gay, cool. But it's always like they're rubbing it in our faces like it's supposed to be edgy or hilarious. "LOOK A HUMAN AND A LIZARD BUT WAIT THEY'RE BOTH FEMALE AND ARE IN A RELATIONSHIP WHOA HOW ABOUT THAT"
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I think the gag's meant to be that they're a lizard and a human, rather than a lesbian couple. They certainly don't hammer that particular fact home much.
I do think that Moffat's overcompensating for his lack of LGBT characters in his first series, but I also don't doubt that he means well.
RTD GAY AGENDA.
I'm joking.
I do notice this absolute need for them to point out that they're in a relationship every single time they're in an episode. It's gone the full spectrum of subtle to completely out in the open (pun intended).
I don't mind it, it's humorous for the most part. And I do agree with Exterminieren that it's more about them being a lizard and human couple than lesbians.
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