razgriz417
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Haha I thought the same thing at the beginning of the episode, so glad this is back again
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Doctor Who Series Seven |OT| The Question You've Been Running From All Your Life
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Haha I thought the same thing at the beginning of the episode, so glad this is back again
"That's just page one" suddenly has a whole other meaning.
I don't know what I'm talking about.
I think I mean this in a bad way, but this episode was the most "RTD" episode since Moffat took over, a mix of pop culture and sci-fi with a dash of cultural statement. Even the visuals were disappointingly bland. In series 5+, with the exception of the 1st episode, there was a real attempt to make even the modern day setting seems fantastical. That fairy tale atmosphere is something that I come to really love in the 11 era.
Having said that, this was still a fun episode and the next one seems to be the most alien-setting since Series 1.
Having said that, this was still a fun episode and the next one seems to be the most alien-setting since Series 1.
Keyser Soze
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Clara: What chapter you on?
Artie: Ten.
Clara: Elevens the best. Youll cry your eyes out The good kind of crying
Sick David Tennant Burn
Artie: Ten.
Clara: Elevens the best. Youll cry your eyes out The good kind of crying
Sick David Tennant Burn
EleventhDoctor
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I totally get what you're saying and I was feeling it too.
User 100115
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So much River hate in this thread, and she wasn't even mentioned in the episode! Gah.
'The Girl in the Shop' and my mind immediately went to Sally Sparrow btw.
Please don't be Rose, please don't be Rose, please don't be Rose.
'The Girl in the Shop' and my mind immediately went to Sally Sparrow btw.
Please don't be Rose, please don't be Rose, please don't be Rose.
Keyser Soze
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As much I'd love that, and would love some new Who with Sparrow, I cannot see anyone going for tech info to this shop...
...although he Summer Falls book might have been bought from there.
*gets hopes up*
Incendiary
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I really liked the episode. This episode definitely had more of an RTD-era feel, aside from the "Doctor Who?" moment that was typical Moffat. I can't wait for the Question arc to be over so that can stop being shoehorned into every episode.
Other than that, really liked the wi-fi stations and the uploading minds into a database was suitably creepy. Jenna-Louise Coleman is super-duper attractive, and while Clara is a great character so far she's already falling into the typical Moffat female companion archetype that he used with Amy and River. I hope there's more to her that sets her apart. I'd love it if she and the Doctor have the type of relationship where she constantly flirts with him just as a friend to tease and make him uncomfortable, not because there's any sort of attraction.
Other than that, really liked the wi-fi stations and the uploading minds into a database was suitably creepy. Jenna-Louise Coleman is super-duper attractive, and while Clara is a great character so far she's already falling into the typical Moffat female companion archetype that he used with Amy and River. I hope there's more to her that sets her apart. I'd love it if she and the Doctor have the type of relationship where she constantly flirts with him just as a friend to tease and make him uncomfortable, not because there's any sort of attraction.
Did this show get another budget increase? Some of the shots from the beginning of the episode were phenomenal.
I also like that Clara has already been more useful than Amy and Rory and not just some innocent doughy eyed gerbil.
I also like that Clara has already been more useful than Amy and Rory and not just some innocent doughy eyed gerbil.
Box of Bunnies
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Amazing what you can do when the episode's bad guys make you a computer genius.
EliteArtist
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Episode's cinematography certainly looked nice. Was fairly typical fair really. Nothing incredibly new at play here, but it was more Doctor Who, so that's not a terrible thing. Can't wait to see how it plays out for the rest of the season.
The great intelligence will probally turn out to be the master? Bear in mind i missed the xmas episode
Rose had her phone altered in her second ever episode by christopher eccleston, i believe ,so she could ring her mum from the space station if i recall correctly? So its either her or river, but seeing as shes in arrow i dont know if river will appear this half season, also rose was the girl in the shop
In her first episode
For the 50th either moffat will reference or guest star a lot of the old companions and doctors and other bits and bobs or he will do a one off episode with several of the doctors as a guess
Rose had her phone altered in her second ever episode by christopher eccleston, i believe ,so she could ring her mum from the space station if i recall correctly? So its either her or river, but seeing as shes in arrow i dont know if river will appear this half season, also rose was the girl in the shop
In her first episode
For the 50th either moffat will reference or guest star a lot of the old companions and doctors and other bits and bobs or he will do a one off episode with several of the doctors as a guess
NotTheGuyYouKill
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The Great Intelligence? Who the fuck is the Great Intelligence? Seems kinda douchey. He was the Christmas special villain, yeah?
God, Jenna is too adorable.
God, Jenna is too adorable.
That's all it takes! But this isn't Clara's first foray into super-hacker genius -- her first introduction to the universe was exactly as such.
Besides, plenty of sci-fi/supernatural shows have introduced plot devices to make mundane characters interesting. How many comicbook superheroes are lab accidents...?
He's one of the Doctor's oldest enemies.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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But it's so adorable.
Yeah, I've heard of him, I just don't know much about him. I don't think he was mentioned even once till the Christmas Special in NuWho.
Yeah, that scene was stupid. Almost anybody can at least connect to a Wi-Fi hotspot. What made it worse was the password bit, where she typed it wrong once and gave up on the connection immediately.
obin_gam
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I think there are more ppl like those out there, than there are those who know how to.
You would be surprised really how common this is.
I've worked on IT for the last twelve years. You're wrong. It would be awesome for thousands of people stuck in hell if you were right. But you're wrong.
The episode was simply OK. Nothing earth shattering. But Smith and Coleman have better chemistry than 95% of the screen couples I've seen. On that part Moffat is gonna hit it way out of the park.
Napoleonthechimp
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The great intelligence is the disembodied consciousness of a "great old one" (think lovecraft) that has been seeking a corporeal form for a very long time. The Doctor has encountered it before which is why it seemed familiar to him in the Christmas episode.
Neil Gaiman originally wanted "House" to be the great intelligence in his episode but instead they dropped those references and borrowed the concept for later episodes.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Ah, I see. Interesting.
The Elite
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Years of experience helping people with computers suggests otherwise. The Doctor hinting at her lack of Twitter knowledge was exceptional though. Like she knew ABSOLUTELY nothing about the Internet. That would be strange.
frontieruk
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It may of been because I watched the episode half asleep but I thought she clicked the wrong connection by accident.
I thought the episode was hinting that she had pretty much no history before last year when she moved in with the family for a week.
Napoleonthechimp
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The Twitter thing was weird (almost as if she's not really from Earth or that time period... funny that) but the Doctor's reaction in that scene was amusing enough to elicit a laugh from me.
Ventilaator
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A teenager asked me last week how to get a new empty page in Word. Not even a new document. He wrote a page full and didn't know how to continue.
Then there was a test of computer skills. There was this one task where you were given a list of names and a list of pictures of various people and you had to connect the correct name with the correct picture. All you have to do is type one of the names into Google and a picture will come up.
Like, half of the students got it wrong.
Napoleonthechimp
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This kind of thing irritates me. People are so used to relying on others that they won't even try to figure out basic tasks for themselves.
The Elite
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When I watched it a second time I got that impression as well. The Twitter bit is strange. The Doctor was very explicit that he thought she had absolutely no knowledge of Internet before she got all that information from the Wi Fi.
peanutbutterlatte
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Please no, we've already sort of had that with Amy.
Exterminieren
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Did it need referencing past that? It was a Silent ship, much like the one in Florida.
I daresay we'll see the Silence again soon, FWIW.
Napoleonthechimp
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I thought the Silence just made use of something they found (with both of those "timeships" being one and the same). As it's already been established they get others to build things for them and I very much doubt humans are remotely close to building a TARDIS.
peanutbutterlatte
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... and make jokes about Moffatt's lazy Rory writing. No actually, that was pretty awesome. I hope their defeat doesn't get retconned by a silly jam-packed 45 minute finale to a year long arc.
Also, there was a thing in the trailer that sort of resembled a Silen(t)?
Major spoiler
confirmed for ..edit : special episode
Could be the girl on the phone then
Edit : my bad misread at first
rose and tennants doctor
Could be the girl on the phone then
Edit : my bad misread at first
Hot Coldman
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That's not the finale. It's the anniversary special. Nowhere does it say anything about them appearing this series.
Stuff I liked:
Stuff I didn't
Question: what the hell did the bells have to do with anything
- Hollywood social engineering
- Doctor in glasses
- Rather good 'reveal' moment
- Excellent cinematography. The neighbourhood scene with the city view, and the plane - excellent
- Couple of small jokes about the riots and something about Trafalgar Square I didn't get?
- The bit with the mind-wiped staff of the Shard was rad, especially with the exec
Stuff I didn't
- Hollywood hacking generally. The app stuff in particular annoyed me
- The big bad had a really dumb face. Should've just left the screen a voice or something
- In general a lot of smarmy moffat moffat-ness which is okay in small doses but without a guiding plotline as strong as, say, the eleventh hour, wasn't that entertaining
- Creeper Doctor
Question: what the hell did the bells have to do with anything
Future Foundation
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Did anyone else notice the author of Summer Falls was an "Amelia Williams"? Because I just noticed this today and I thought it was really nice.
That ship actually was one that the Doctor later sabotaged or disrupted when battling the Silence, not sure what episode but his actions is what caused it to end up above Craig's place in a previous season. If it wasn't hinted at enough in the TV show one of the Brilliant books that cover the season basically said as much.
I liked the episode.
It was not great but not bad at all. The twitter line made me chuckle. When she wanted five minutes knew something would happen to her, basic set up. The Doctor putting her to bed and licking the leaf and all was a bit....stalkerish? My thought at the time was "Doctor don't be rapey" Bonus points for those who know where that comment comes from.
The episode basically demonstrated why anyone being shown typing is always a bad idea, it comes off so freaking horrible and the tech stuff on the scream.....it all screamed cheese.
Wait.... Is he wearing Amy's reading glasses?
That is not new. He wore them at the end of Angels in Manhattan.
Yeah, if they show a close-up of a book it's generally good practice to attempt to pick out as many details as possible
Going to be devo if Eccleston isn't in the Anniversary. Sigh.
APZonerunner
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The Earls Court joke is a reference to the real world. Up until February of this year, The Doctor Who Experience was there (it's now back in Cardiff), so there would've been a TARDIS parked there permanently. For you Americans, the DW Experience is literally a Who museum of sorts - they have all the Doctor's costumes on display, enemies, prosthetics, sometimes people like the guy who plays Strax appear there in full makeup and costume to entertain the kids. There's full versions of the 63, 2005 and 2010 TARDIS sets you can run around and push buttons in and such, a replica of Davros' mothership from Series 4 etc - So the joke is just that they stormed... er, a Doctor Who Exhibition.
Incidentally, every week Cult Box posts (BBC sanctioned) hints for next week's episode. They're very safe hints, fluffy things like "A number one hit from 1981 is heard" and stuff like that. One of those hints for next week is that
"Clara makes a reference to Jenna-Louise Coleman."
This is really interesting to me, and potentially related to this DW Experience joke and the whole 'Doctor Who' angle. I imagine the Earls Court reference was just a fun nod for those in the know, but...
Is something really meta about to happen?
Cheers. Pretty good joke then, although it causes a bunch of weird internal fictional paradoxes (unless of course Doctor Who is a show inside the Who universe but that in itself would raise a bunch of questions)
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