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Doctor Who Series Seven |OT| The Question You've Been Running From All Your Life

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Here’s what we found out:

* The running sequence of the new series will see a first block of five episodes transmitted, then a break, then the Christmas special, then a break, then the last eight episodes in the spring. That’s generally what had been suspected, but it was confirmed at the event.
* The Christmas special, which is currently shooting, is set in
Victorian times
, revealed Steven Moffat (after conferring with Caroline Skinner).
* The title sequence to the show has undergone a slight evolution.
* There are plans, but nothing concrete yet, for more live events to coincide with the 50th anniversary of the show next year. In particular, Caroline Skinner cited the Proms, although she didn’t indicate that a new one was coming.
* Mark Gatiss has been wanting to do his upcoming drama on the creation of Doctor Who, which is set to be broadcast in 2013, since before the show was revived in 2005.
* Reports that Matt Smith has signed a new contract to 2014 are news to Matt Smith. In his own words: “It sounds like you’ve signed something else, when in fact I was always going to be around”.
* Of the episodes he’s written, Steven Moffat’s least favourite is The Beast Below (although there are ideas in it he likes very much). The one he’s proudest of (even if you don’t think it’s his best, he says) is The Eleventh Hour, given just how much ground it had to cover in one hour of television.

As for the transmission date, there’s no formal announcement that’s been made. We’ve read the new Internet rumour that suggests it might be 1st September, but nobody was telling us anything for definite. Expect an announcement soon, though...

http://www.denofgeek.com/tv/doctor-who/22332/doctor-who-series-7-press-launch-news-round-up
 
So I've been reading my 4 year old "The Lion, The Witch and the Wardrobe" at night-a chapter at a time. She's a little sensitive, so I wanted to warn her ahead of time what happens to Aslan so I said "There is a part that is coming up where it looks like Aslan dies-but it's a trick and he comes back later and he's ok"

She says "Oh-just like The Doctor did on Doctor Who!"
 
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Hawt.
 
Lots more promo shots of first 3 eps here:

http://www.doctorwhonews.net/2012/08/dwn150812000008-new-doctor-who-series.html



Spoiler free reviews:

Den of Geek

Bottom line, and we'd better stop for fear of giving anything away, Doctor Who remains in tip-top condition, that much is clear. And as a kickstarter to what looks like a pivotal and massively ambitious series ahead, Asylum Of The Daleks is a very impressive way to begin. Congratulations to all concerned: it really is possible to continually evolve and subtlely change a show with such a long pedigree to it.

Some light spoilers in this one: The Telegraph:

The fiendishly clever script is packed with Moffat’s trademark dazzling wordplay and several guffaw-out-loud gags, while there are two scenes that will have viewers sniffling on their sofas. Best of all, the story makes the Doctor’s pepperpotty arch enemies truly scary again and contains several killer twists.
 

Ephidel

Member
Confirmed no 2-parters, which we already guessed at.

Supposedly, Matt Smith confirmed he will be in the 2013/14 series, but not seen anything official yet.
During the Q&A someone asked him about it, and he basically babbled on a bit, saying he'd kept seeing this reported but didn't understand why because he hadn't signed anything (Moffat interupted saying he'd signed something but not understood it), then going on to say well yes, but he'd signed something but it was a long time ago and didn't mean much, and he hadn't signed anything new. He said of course he wouldn't want to leave during the biggest year (Moffat interupted again to say that every year is the biggest year) and sort of wound up the question specifically mentioning he'd be around next year (2013, no mention of 14).
As someone said, his exact words at the end were “It sounds like you’ve signed something else, when in fact I was always going to be around”, so it might technically sound like a confirmation, but really it was one of those long winded "can't really say much" non-answers.

I will say that the episode will be so much better if you go in unspoiled like we did, as its a shame to think that if someone is a spoilsport others might not get to do the same. It's only a couple of weeks away now, and if you see anything that even looks like a spoiler, you'd probably do yourself a service by burying your head in the sand and waiting to see it for yourself.
 

8bit

Knows the Score
IS that the first time we've seen the 'Dalek font' in conjunction with the new series?

Yeah I think so, I don't remember seeing it outside of Dalek annuals any time recently.

I am quite happy if the episode is 45 minutes of crazy screeching Daleks.
 

Alphahawk

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Season 6 had some good episodes, the problem came in the form of the "Impossible Astronaut" arc which should have been three episodes at most was dragged out for half of the season's episodes. The first two "The Impossible Astronaut/Day of the Moon" were awesome, and the whole thing kind of wrapped up nicely for a first episode. Then we got Gangers, mech-thingies, a war between the Doctor and the church: it just got too convoluted.
 
Season 6 had some good episodes, the problem came in the form of the "Impossible Astronaut" arc which should have been three episodes at most was dragged out for half of the season's episodes. The first two "The Impossible Astronaut/Day of the Moon" were awesome, and the whole thing kind of wrapped up nicely for a first episode. Then we got Gangers, mech-thingies, a war between the Doctor and the church: it just got too convoluted.

I'm not sure that it's convoluted as much as it's densely packed, the ending is rushed, and a lot of action happens off screen. At least I'd say it still makes some sense.

I just really wish that Moffat would slow down the pace a little bit. A Good Man Goes to War alone is so densely packed that if it was blown out into a Pertwee-style 6-parter, I don't think it would plod at all.

How many times can a race be extinguished? Find out on Dr. Who.

History can be rewritten.
 

twobear

sputum-flecked apoplexy
My problem with Season 6 was that it sacrificed too many episodes at the altar of the season arc.

There were five episodes out of 13 that were basically only about the season arc. That's too many, I think.
 

BatDan

Bane? Get them on board, I'll call it in.
Hopefully. Moffat 2 parters were always very good at that (The Empty Child/Silence in the Library/Time of Angels).

That's one of my favorites, if only for how the cliffhanger-threat is stopped.
"Go to your room! I mean it, I'm very, very angry with you! I'm very, very cross! Go to your room!"
 
So, I took a look at the old 2008/9 Specials thread that was posted here earlier. It's so cool to look through, and it's completely hilarious how hard people shit on Matt Smith when he got picked.


Showing him playing a semi-retarded character is imbuing me with no confidence.

:lol What an odd choice.

They copped out they have the youth auidence locked in now and didn't want to lose all the merchadising money that comes with that by casting an even older actor.

I'm not familiar with this guy so I'll reserve judgment. He looks like a caveman though.

I was worried that they would just pick another Tennant-like Doctor instead of going different. How boring...

I'm disappointed. :(

He seems like pretty much everything I wanted them to pick against.

Oh well. It's Moffat so it will come down to the writing anyway.

this can't be life

far too young

Very disappointing.

edit: and he does look like a twat. also talks like a twat. very likely is a twat.

Funnily enough, that was my first reaction. I also don't have a fucking clue who he is.

Matt Smith, looks like a twat.

They could have made such a better decision... *sigh*

Look at him, he looks so fucking weird.

Better cut that damn bang off. looks like a douche.

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Jesus that pic is terrible.

That one pic with the glasses it the only good one I've seen so far.

Dr. Douche?

I dunno though, he seems like a character that would show up in Buffy.

I'm getting a lot of Whedon vibes from this pick.

Actually, I think he looks like a Twilight reject.
 

CorrisD

badchoiceboobies
^such negativity, twilight reject, lol.

My gf and I thought he looked a little goofy but would wait for an actual episode to judge him on his Doctor, but maybe we weren't that bothered because we weren't inane tennant loyalists like so many had become over the years.
 
So, I took a look at the old 2008/9 Specials thread that was posted here earlier. It's so cool to look through, and it's completely hilarious how hard people shit on Matt Smith when he got picked.

All of those things seem to be accurate descriptions of him out of character....

Great Doctor. Hipster Icon.
Still got nothing on Tennant!
 

Alphahawk

Member
So I just had a thought. When I first watched The Wedding of River Song I assumed that the world where all of time clashed was a consequence of River not killing the doctor. This would seemingly contradict the event of Fathers Day as it shows a whole new alternative to messing up time. What if though times clashing was a natural endpoint to all the cracks in times? In other words by killing the Doctor the Silence was trying to make a new timeline that would correct the mistakes left by the cracks.
 
So I just had a thought. When I first watched The Wedding of River Song I assumed that the world where all of time clashed was a consequence of River not killing the doctor. This would seemingly contradict the event of Fathers Day as it shows a whole new alternative to messing up time. What if though times clashing was a natural endpoint to all the cracks in times? In other words by killing the Doctor the Silence was trying to make a new timeline that would correct the mistakes left by the cracks.

The Doctor is such a big "event" in time, due to his long age, impact across countless civilisations and basically living next to the freaking Time Vortex. His timeline getting fucked up basically crashes the universe. Pete Tyler, meanwhile, is of little significance, but his timeline still needs putting right- if every little guy's timeline gets fucked up, things would go weird, right? Hence the Reapers.

At least that's how I rationalised it. Real answer: wibbly wobbly, timey wimey.
 
To NYC-GAF: BBC America is having a screening of Asylum of the Daleks on August 25th. Tickets go on sale tomorrow for $1.11 (eleven cents in honor of Eleven + $1 service charge), and there'll be a Q&A with Smith, Gillan, Darvil, Moffat, & Skinner.

BBC America presents the U.S. premiere screening of Doctor Who “Asylum of the Daleks” August 25, 2012 in New York City
BBC AMERICA is proud to present the U.S. premiere screening of the new season of DOCTOR WHO Saturday, August 25, 2012 at 6:00pm in New York City. The screening will be immediately followed by a live Q&A with stars Matt Smith, Karen Gillan and executive producer Caroline Skinner.

Don’t miss your chance to be among the first to see “ASYLUM OF THE DALEKS,” the season premiere of the all-new series, before the premiere on BBC AMERICA’S Supernatural Saturday, coming this Fall.

Tickets cost 11¢ (with a $1 surcharge) in honor of the Eleventh Doctor.

We will announce the venue and ticket information tomorrow. Tickets go on sale TOMORROW Thursday, August 16 and will be made available exclusively through a link shared by the @BBCAmerica Twitter handle. Tickets will sell out fast so follow @BBCAmerica to be informed of the link as soon as it goes live!
 

ag-my001

Member
Fixed vs. non-fixed points in time? The Doctor had to die because he always died at the Lake (by always being inside the puppet). Pete living was a result of a paradox, which the Doctor had implied could be dealt with (up until he went poof!).
 

Stumpokapow

listen to the mad man
Yes, well, time for another instalment of "post ur favourite episodes", except I won't include all the episodes everyone else already chose (Blink, Silence in the Library / The Forest of the Dead, The Impossible Astronaut / Day of the Moon, Journey's End, all great choices)...

Father's Day --> I think this is the best companion-related episode of all of new Who. If it had been any earlier in the series, it would have lacked the emotional resonance it had. I think it does a great job of setting up the tragic but wonderful situation that the Doctor's time travel enables, gets to the heart of Rose's vulnerability (and allows her to eventually grow to be very strong in Bad Wolf and beyond), and great work by Ecclestone. The somewhat cheesy villain and bottle episode set do nothing to take away from its essential strength.

The Doctor's Daughter --> To me this evoked a great many things. It plays with a lot of classic sci-fi and fiction tropes and series staples. An innocent child, the instant bond between family members--only to have it wrested away (and this is executed a good deal better than, for example, Star Trek TNG exploring the same theme) too soon, the burden of immortality, the knowledge that one way or the other the journey will end for everyone some day, except the doctor, who is fated to continue this like a cosmic Sisyphus... the fact that amongst the thousands of times the Doctor has saved this or that, this is a near-unique experience across the series. Great acting. And the trivia quirk of the casting (the actress playing Jenny was Tennant's then-girlfriend now wife, and the real-life daughter of the 5th doctor) is awesome as well.

The Beast Below --> Moffatt really views this as his weakest work on the show? That's really too bad. I liked just about everything about this one. Amy is still quite new at this point, but there's an instant warmth between her and the Doctor. If anything, I liked their relationship more before Rory became a major part of the picture. I like the theme of the Ship Leaving The Ruined Planet, I like the twist reveal that the "evil beast" is not really evil. I like the idea of being able to choose between forgetting your sins or having to pay for them. Ecologically, I like the idea of a star whale. I think the very convenient ending is a powerful point, as well, since it suggests that maybe sometimes working with nature might be a better choice than working against it and having to manage the consequences. I think the concepts work wonderfully. I loved the main sets.

Vincent and the Doctor --> Easily the best past / historical story they've done on New Who. Van Gogh's personal psychology practically begs for fictional treatment. The Climax of the episode, where the Doctor brings Van Gogh into the present, is spine-tingling. How inconceivable to step outside yourself and outside of time and peer through a two hundred year old looking glass. Again, a truly unique and wonderful look at one of the underexamined aspects of time travel. And then, the tragic ending--Amy and the Doctor need to hold on to the fact that although Van Gogh was destined to die young and sad, and no amount of manipulation could have changed that, they hope they were able to bring him some small comfort. Perfectly hits the emotional notes needed for considering the idea of a sort of palliative situation--like visiting a dying relative in hospital, or even more directly, like having a good time with someone the night before they killed themself and knowing that whatever lingering sadness or illness caused them to take their life, they were happy for that brief period.

I'd love to hear other posters post some of their favourites outside of the usual choices, and I love detailed reviews of anything.

P.S. Ugh, another opening credits change? I really think each subsequent New Who credits have been worse than the prior one, and the changes to the theme have been for the worse as well. :/
 
The most memorable thing about The Doctor's Daughter being the drowning fish man is that way for a reason, and it ain't just because there's a drowning fish man.

That's all I'll say on that one.
 

Quick

Banned
Brofist, Stump!

Vincent and the Doctor remains one of my favourite episodes. People say including Athlete's "Chances" as a musical track was a poor idea, I thought it was brilliant. When Bill Nighy was describing Van Gogh, I was just beaming seeing Vincent tearing up and seeing him just whistle away as the TARDIS vanished. Then I was just sad at the end when he still killed himself.

The Beast Below was Amy's moment to prove herself to the Doctor and to the audience as not just being a pretty face and legs. It was quite nice that after what the people had done to the star whale, it came to them willing to help and still is.

The End of the World was a pretty mellow follow-up to Rose, but the end where Rose calls her mom since she missed her and watching the world blow up with Rose's Theme playing was beautiful.

Tooth and Claw was entertaining and ludicrous. Kung-fu monks taking over the place, Werewolves, Doctor with a Scottish accent (Tennant's natural one), the Royal Family possibly having Werewolf blood, and the Doctor and Rose just messing around by having that wager to get the Queen saying she's not amused.

Love and Monsters. I like this episode a lot. Just getting a different perspective from someone else was refreshing. Plus, ELO. I don't get the hate with this episode, if there is any.

Fear Her was a brilliant episode, showing us that something something something something, hey! Doctor carrying the Olympic torch!
Just kidding. Not even the Doctor carrying the Olympic torch can raise this episode up from trash.
 
P.S. Ugh, another opening credits change? I really think each subsequent New Who credits have been worse than the prior one, and the changes to the theme have been for the worse as well. :/

It's only a minor tweak. The main change is that the logo and title font changes every episode. The logo for Asylum of the Daleks has Dalek bumps, the logo for Dinosaurs on a Spaceship has scales etc.
 

Stumpokapow

listen to the mad man
It's only a minor tweak. The main change is that the logo and title font changes every episode. The logo for Asylum of the Daleks has Dalek bumps, the logo for Dinosaurs on a Spaceship has scales etc.

This can be charming if done well, but I still reserve the right to bitch about it later.
 
So, um, quite why Moffat never got Curtis to write another episode for Who yet is baffling.

Curtis is a busy, rich man. He doesn't need to write more Who; he wrote the first for his kids, IIRC. I wouldn't be surprised if it were a Russell T. Davies situation, where Moffat asks every series and gets turned down.

Gaiman's rumoured to have an episode in the pipeline for the second half of this series, though.
 
The most memorable thing about The Doctor's Daughter being the drowning fish man is that way for a reason, and it ain't just because there's a drowning fish man.

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I disagree.
I don't particularly like the episode either but Georgia Moffett is bloody attractive.

In terms of favorite episodes of Doctor Who, if you remove the standard favorites (Blink, Midnight, Eleventh Hour, Doctor Dances, Silence in the Library, etc.) I'd say my favorite is Amy's Choice. Unless that's another standard favorite. But the depiction of the Dream Lord and how the entire episode plays out makes it one of my favorites.
 
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