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Doctor Who Series Seven |OT| The Question You've Been Running From All Your Life

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Daleks in Manhattan had some really great moments brought down by the fact that overall it was pretty stupid.

I don't hate it don't get me wrong. Its just a weaker episode than pretty much the rest of who bar some of the crazy stuff like the Peter Kay episode.

What's interesting is the Human Dalek idea had been used before, All the Daleks in BW/PotW were made from human DNA. Human Sec is just and evolution of that idea It seems. Its a good concept showing how far the daleks will go to survive as a species but once they become Human/Dalek hybrids they hate their own impurity.
 

The Technomancer

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"I... AM A HUMAN DALEK!!" Is the stupidest thing I've ever seen in Who (Excluding Fear Her and that Peter Kay episode). The concept wasn't bad, but the execution was terrible IMO.

Bad Wolf/Parting of the Ways was also great Dalek episodes, I forgot about them.

It had one really great scene, which is the human-dalek talking with the Doctor about the Dalek's need to evolve. I really liked that.
 

BatDan

Bane? Get them on board, I'll call it in.
Tonight's BBC America special is "The Timey-Wimey of Doctor Who". I imagine it will discuss how time travel has no concrete rules in Doctor Who.
Last week's special was "The Women of Doctor Who" which I turned off when I had a feeling they were going to overly-praise Rose Tyler.
 
I saw the Trans-Temporal Sonic Screwdriver in Forbidden Planet yesterday. There was an episode synopsis on the back that was new to me:

With the TARDIS trapped on Earth in a Trans-temporal schism, the Doctor find himself at the centre of four time zones. As with each previous time the TARDIS generates a new sonic screwdriver for the Doctor but this time it is created in the style of each time zone, Elizabethan, Victorian, Present Day and Future London. With additional features including a ‘wood’ setting, the Doctor must try and free the TARDIS before time runs out.


Looking at the FP website, there's another one for that hybrid gun thing:

After the Doctor disappeared, the Cybermen and Daleks went to war across the universe. And on each world they destroyed they left in their wake, Stone Angels, picking over the dead and dying. But the Cleric army fought back and scoured the dead worlds left after the wars, looking for the wreckage of Daleks, Cybermen, and broken Angels to create a hugely powerful ‘anti-time’ device. A device part Dalek, part Cyber technology and used the Quantum signature from the Angel to trigger a Gateway to pull enemies into the time Vortex…. Erasing them from Time completely.
 

CorrisD

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I saw the Trans-Temporal Sonic Screwdriver in Forbidden Planet yesterday. There was an episode synopsis on the back that was new to me:




Looking at the FP website, there's another one for that hybrid gun thing:

Those sound like some pretty cool synopsis if they became actual episodes.

I just want to see the official 8 -> 9 regeneration.

Same here, would be cool to see 8 turn into 9 and start off this journey of the new series. At this point I would wonder why they don't just replace eccelston with someone similar and blame it on something timey wimey.
Eccelston was good, but he will now always be this gap for previous doctors because he never wants to return to the role, which is really disappointed, so personally I would just find another actor.
 
I want to see the Time War that so thoroughly broke 9

I think the worst thing they could do is actually show the Time War. However they film it, it won't live up to the expectations that people's imaginations have already created. Not everything needs to be explained.
 
I think the worst thing they could do is actually show the Time War. However they film it, it won't live up to the expectations that people's imaginations have already created. Not everything needs to be explained.

Sometimes less is more. Imagination is grander and scarier than anything.
 

The Technomancer

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I think the worst thing they could do is actually show the Time War. However they film it, it won't live up to the expectations that people's imaginations have already created. Not everything needs to be explained.
Agreed. The sense gathered from what we've heard of it is plenty. I actually did like how they handled it in The End of Time: just about as much information as I want
 

DodgerSan

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"I... AM A HUMAN DALEK!!" Is the stupidest thing I've ever seen in Who (Excluding Fear Her and that Peter Kay episode). The concept wasn't bad, but the execution was terrible IMO.

Bad Wolf/Parting of the Ways was also great Dalek episodes, I forgot about them.

Oh god, you had to remind me. That was the most embarrassingly bad piece of shit ever to bear the name Doctor Who (and I lived though the Bertie Bassett stuff). It was the first episode ever that I couldn't actually stand to finish.
 
I think those may be 'invented for toy' premises, we've had them before IIRC.

What makes you think that? Seems a bit unlikely that the screwdriver & gun have just been invented by the toy company, and if they're going to appear in the show then why not have a synopsis of the episode they come from?
 
That was the most embarrassingly bad piece of shit ever to bear the name Doctor Who (and I lived though the Bertie Bassett stuff).

I genuinely think The Happiness Patrol is among the best Who stories. I love how political McCoy's era was, what with that and Paradise Towers.
 

DodgerSan

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Eccleston himself was great, but that season was dragged down by way too much RTD idiocy to make it enjoyable.

The two Moffat eps were great though.
 
What makes you think that? Seems a bit unlikely that the screwdriver & gun have just been invented by the toy company, and if they're going to appear in the show then why not have a synopsis of the episode they come from?

Wouldn't be the first time that they've invented toys just for... toys in the last couple of years, and not really heard anything else that matches up with those stories.

My guess is that cos of the lead time with a toy, and wanting to avoid story leak, and the toy manufacturers wanting new things out this month, they may just be things they came up with. Mainly the Sonic Screwdriver - as that's an extension of the Make Your Own Sonic set they already released.

I could be wrong, and the second one sounds pretty cool, but I'm just dubious.
 

BatDan

Bane? Get them on board, I'll call it in.
I can't get over how silly "The Angels Take Manhattan" sounds. So here's something I thought up in a minute.

"It's time to go back in time. It's time to turn out the lights. It's time to meet the Angels and make sure not to blink tonight!"
 
When'll the first ep. of the new season air?

A BBC America trailer aired earlier this weekend, and the premiere date at the end said "September 8". However, when it aired later in the day, it said "Coming This Fall".

bbca-series-7-september-8.jpg
 

Mariolee

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Facebook told me there was a sneak peak of Doctor Who during Copper's premiere yesterday, but I came home from church too late. Any new footage/news from it?
 
With the TARDIS trapped on Earth in a Trans-temporal schism, the Doctor find himself at the centre of four time zones. As with each previous time the TARDIS generates a new sonic screwdriver for the Doctor but this time it is created in the style of each time zone, Elizabethan, Victorian, Present Day and Future London. With additional features including a ‘wood’ setting, the Doctor must try and free the TARDIS before time runs out.

After the Doctor disappeared, the Cybermen and Daleks went to war across the universe. And on each world they destroyed they left in their wake, Stone Angels, picking over the dead and dying. But the Cleric army fought back and scoured the dead worlds left after the wars, looking for the wreckage of Daleks, Cybermen, and broken Angels to create a hugely powerful ‘anti-time’ device. A device part Dalek, part Cyber technology and used the Quantum signature from the Angel to trigger a Gateway to pull enemies into the time Vortex…. Erasing them from Time completely.
No idea why people think these are not going to be episodes. The first one mirrors stuff we have already seen production shots of and the second one specifically states
After the Doctor disappeared
which sounds like a huge plot point for the second half of series 7.

I have never seen any new era doctor who "toys" that have had stories created around them and im a bit of a collector of things like this. If anyone has seen anything with a story around it please link me.
 
No idea why you would think they are episode plots. The gun has been around since January, BBC are very secretive about plots, don't see why they would show something like that months before filming even started.


Character Options is just making up toys and stories to go with them to sell merchandising as just about every toy range has ever done. They're similar to this sonic set from last year:

byo_sonicpacked.jpg
 
No idea why you would think they are episode plots. The gun has been around since January, BBC are very secretive about plots, don't see why they would show something like that months before filming even started.


Character Options is just making up toys and stories to go with them to sell merchandising as just about every toy range has ever done. They're similar to this sonic set from last year:

byo_sonicpacked.jpg

Did the Build-A-Screwdriver have a plot though?

Also, guess who this is:
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