It actually always bothered me a lot. There are mutants who can read thoughts or pass through walls. Maybe you all trust your fellow human beings, but when I think there's someone who can read my fucking mind without me knowing or enter my home with no effort... Call me evil or anti-mutant or whatever, but I just wouldn't people capable of that around me.
Does anyone else not have sympathy for the X-Men?
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ThoseDeafMutes
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So you're saying we should guard dangerous mutants with 24/7 security details and find a way to make it so they can only use their abilities with the right combination of keys and codes?
OP, the point, you are missing it.
Mutants do not exist in a bubble. They exist in a Marvel universe, where superpowers (not mutants!), magic, techno-viruses, Gods (hell, pantheons of gods), demonic realms, GODS with all capitals, Higher beings, ALIENS are all a regular form of threat to earth.
In this mix, focusing on mutants due to human insecurity IS horrible. Absolutely horrible.
If it is power you fear, humans have other worries: see the post about the leaders one button push away from a nuclear apocalypse.
If you do not have sympathy for the X-Men who were persecuted, attacked and/or killed while they were regularly saving the world, then I do not know what to say. It is like you agree with shooting a medic in the head while he is working on a patient because he do not have a VISA or has a high debt to your country's bank. BULLSHIT!
An argument can be made that mutants, at minimum, have the same rights as humans. That is the minimum. An argument can be made that they actually have more, if we really want to go the way the humans have treated all species on earth so far (i.e. if it is inferior to us, we can openly abuse it, cage it, vivisect it, torture it, consume it), and I suppose that is the real source of fear that humans might have when mutants appear. i.e. the fear that they would recieve the same treatment as THEY would give to their inferiors if they were in such positions.
It is the same argument as the one where someone wants to shoot the aliens down if they see one because "they obviously want to conquer us/wage war against us", or as others argued, if they have higher tech, they would obviously just nuke our planet. I.e.: That is what humans would do if we would get the ability to go to other planets. Enslave, destroy, fuck, eat.
So....it is a complicated issue, and if someone would be in need of getting no sympathy for me, it is the makers of Sentinels, Trask and Co, and the marauders.
Mutants do not exist in a bubble. They exist in a Marvel universe, where superpowers (not mutants!), magic, techno-viruses, Gods (hell, pantheons of gods), demonic realms, GODS with all capitals, Higher beings, ALIENS are all a regular form of threat to earth.
In this mix, focusing on mutants due to human insecurity IS horrible. Absolutely horrible.
If it is power you fear, humans have other worries: see the post about the leaders one button push away from a nuclear apocalypse.
If you do not have sympathy for the X-Men who were persecuted, attacked and/or killed while they were regularly saving the world, then I do not know what to say. It is like you agree with shooting a medic in the head while he is working on a patient because he do not have a VISA or has a high debt to your country's bank. BULLSHIT!
An argument can be made that mutants, at minimum, have the same rights as humans. That is the minimum. An argument can be made that they actually have more, if we really want to go the way the humans have treated all species on earth so far (i.e. if it is inferior to us, we can openly abuse it, cage it, vivisect it, torture it, consume it), and I suppose that is the real source of fear that humans might have when mutants appear. i.e. the fear that they would recieve the same treatment as THEY would give to their inferiors if they were in such positions.
It is the same argument as the one where someone wants to shoot the aliens down if they see one because "they obviously want to conquer us/wage war against us", or as others argued, if they have higher tech, they would obviously just nuke our planet. I.e.: That is what humans would do if we would get the ability to go to other planets. Enslave, destroy, fuck, eat.
So....it is a complicated issue, and if someone would be in need of getting no sympathy for me, it is the makers of Sentinels, Trask and Co, and the marauders.
Team Filler
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With Mutant Registration, the Xmen can choose to continue their objective of promoting awareness and integration while also acting as a sort of "law enforcement" spearhead for unregistered mutants/criminal mutants.
(FYI: I would require nonmutant-superpowered beings to register as well, if they wish to live as a citizen.)
(FYI: I would require nonmutant-superpowered beings to register as well, if they wish to live as a citizen.)
As mentioned already Ultimate XMen. Looked it up and found its in volume 1 issue 41.
Mind fucked for a while after this.
One minute they're safeguarding human rights, next minute they're wearing SS uniforms and orchestrating coups.
All I know is I wanna be a Boss like my man Chekov here. Goddamn. And check out that gun.
Cyclops is gonna be paying you a personal visit. "Muties"? Fucking seriously?
S.H.I.E.L.D. already kinda does that in comics at least.
what kind of personal visit? the kind of personal visit where an innocent person dies? yeah, that sounds like a mutant alright.
You don't sound very "innocent", flatscan.
vv: I don't think she meant literally stop, in mid-air.
i aint done nothing worth being killed over, that's for sure. But hey, I'm sure he'll just say he slipped and everything'll be fine.
dude, isn't that what the air brake is for?
No one said anything about killing. You must assume that, based on all the rumors in the media...I suppose. I just thought he might have some choice words for you. For your own safety and all.
Chuckie
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Wow... in front of his family....because he didn't 'stop' his plane.
Who is she? One of Magneto's hench(wo)men?
Im probably mistaken but I think that might be Jean Grey.
Looks like the Pheonix force is involved.
He doesn't need to come to my house to have stern words, there's all sorts of places he can say his piece, the only reason for that sort of visit is to say "I know where you live" it's a bullying tactic and nothing more.
More like mutants, blessed with incredible power but doomed to be trapped as a massively popular series that will have its characters and themes exploited and ruined by its corporate owners.
Now, now. It's not fair to accuse him of being a bully. I think he just wants to warn you about the dangers of bullying. And about spreading the kinds of ideas you've already mentioned. People might get the wrong idea, you know? Might start taking that kind of thing seriously. Killing mutant babies? That's madness, and if that's what you truly believe, I just think he'd like to have a few words with you. Maybe introduce you to some people.
Chuckie
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But Jean isn't a blonde right?
That's bullshit and you know it.
And I think if that's his aim he can pick up a phone.
google image search gives me Emma Frost.
she's cyclop's girlfriend and one of the x-men. [emma frost].
Okay looked red headed sorry. Maybe Emmas clones, whichever had the pheonix force.
Edit; or what Pandaman said
Some things are better said face to face. So he can look you in the eyes, you know?
Team Filler
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This isn't the same thing as a baby being born, growing up and finding out that they are gay; this would be more akin to, say, baby is born and grows into a teenager, at which point their hands become automatic rifles. This isn't saying that mutants are all dangerous, but that some are much more dangerous than others, to those around them and, sometimes, to themselves.
I know that looking cyclops in the eyes is a bad deal for anyone on the other end is what i know.
I guess it's from Avengers vs X-Men #9
Sapphire Dreams
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That could happen to anyone, even normal humans can get really depressed and do bad things.
they can but it's not as easy if they're not also living breathing weapons. It requires a greater effort of will to kill 5 men with your bare hands than it does to kill them with a hatchet than it does to get a gun and kill them than it does to simply open your eyes or think about it.
Which was also the issue where other members of the x-men were feeding peoples souls to hell demons for opposing the new mutant world order.
Take heed brothers, the muties are the enemy.
I can't argue against this.
and the best part is we get to build giant robots!
Supermanisdead
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What stops the millions who ride subways everyday from pushing others in front of trains?
Wiktor
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Neither do psychopatic killers though.
By the way that shit makes no sense.
There are like a plethora of mutant destroying robots, where the fuck is the avengers. You would think the government owned world trotting super team would know about the fucking murder bots.
And while I am on the subject, you remember blade. You remember he was after this weird dracula council that wanted to take over the world. How in the hell didn't anyone know about that besides blade, fucking what?
A hatchet isn't a laser, that you control with your mind.
Next the xmen for the most part fights ( and murders) bad guys.You all's issue is all the bad mutants.
we were just talking about mentally unstable people but okay try to generalize that to EVERYBODY.
what stops them is the same thing that would stop most mutants most times, they don't want to hurt anybody. But if they did want to or if they fucked up and they had sufficient power, then it could be absolutely catastrophic.
assuming that these are people and muties who are already predisposed to murder:
camera's, fear of bullets, etc.
what stops a radioactive mutie from giving entire cities cancer without anyone knowing until it's too late?
the governments were the ones building the sentinels.
Supermanisdead
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Woah woah woah, "mutie?"
We're better than this!
We're better than this!
That is my point.
" uh hey tony "
" yeah"
" there is a sect of the government building robots to murder people"
this conversation had to be had at some point. Because it isn't the entirety of the government. Its just weird over obsessed people like general Ross about the OG hulk.
ThoseDeafMutes
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Call me that again
SpectreFire
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"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few."
Do the needs of the few mutants outweigh the needs and the safety of the many who aren't?
Life isn't idealistic, it's practical.
okay. What's up, mutie?
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