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Donkey Kong Country Returns |OT| Retro Studios Has Done It Again!
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Sgt.Pepper
Banned
Got all the puzzle pieces, I still need to finish Worl 7 and 8 in Mirror Mode to get them all. Then there are Time Trials...Best for last!
Windom Earle
Member
Kandinsky said:
Nintendo OTs are so strange! :lol
VGChampion
Member
Guess I'll check in with my short opinion after playing a good chunk of the game.
I still think it's too hard. It's killed a lot of enjoyment I could have had for the game. I have played it almost entirely with co-op though so that could be something but I wish it was easier. They needed a world like Mario where I could just grind some lives because playing with co-op really drains you in lives and when you run out it's no fun just to watch your partner play.
I still think it's too hard. It's killed a lot of enjoyment I could have had for the game. I have played it almost entirely with co-op though so that could be something but I wish it was easier. They needed a world like Mario where I could just grind some lives because playing with co-op really drains you in lives and when you run out it's no fun just to watch your partner play.
World 8's
music and background is 100% Norfair-inspired. Just imagine Samus in DK's place, with the gfx being a little less cartoony. Those of you that would prefer DKCR2 over a Metroid 2D (as if Retro/Nintendo are having the same debate internally) don't know what's good for you...... 
..... seriously, though, are you crazy.
..... seriously, though, are you crazy.Anticitizen One
Banned
Been playing the game some more and wanted to give a few more opinions.
I think what I don't like about the graphics in DKCR is that they are too cartoony looking. For example if the Cliffs levels were in the old DKC games you would see real looking dinosaur bones and realistic details in the rockwork and tar rather than bland simplistic textures. I really wish that if they do make a sequel to this game they go back to the Claymation realistic look of the old games and ditch the current look that looks like any cartoony platformer from sonic to rayman.
Music reminds me more of Crash Bandicoot and even the ps1 final fantasies rather than the old DKC games. :lol
Oh and I just want to say level 7-1 is the greatest thing ever. Im surprised nobody is comparing it to LIMBO.
I think what I don't like about the graphics in DKCR is that they are too cartoony looking. For example if the Cliffs levels were in the old DKC games you would see real looking dinosaur bones and realistic details in the rockwork and tar rather than bland simplistic textures. I really wish that if they do make a sequel to this game they go back to the Claymation realistic look of the old games and ditch the current look that looks like any cartoony platformer from sonic to rayman.
Music reminds me more of Crash Bandicoot and even the ps1 final fantasies rather than the old DKC games. :lol
Oh and I just want to say level 7-1 is the greatest thing ever. Im surprised nobody is comparing it to LIMBO.
Buckethead
Banned
All that Donkey Kong Country Returns 2 (or whatever it's called) needs is for them to:
1.) Add some of the cheesiness back in.
2.) Take out the motion controls.
3.) Wackier levels (amusement parks, etc).
I didn't really miss hot-swap Diddy after awhile.
1.) Add some of the cheesiness back in.
2.) Take out the motion controls.
3.) Wackier levels (amusement parks, etc).
I didn't really miss hot-swap Diddy after awhile.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
Mr. Wonderful said:
DKCR already repeats level types a lot compared to NSMBWii. I think it strikes a good balance between something like NSMB and older platformer designs that looped stage "classes" a lot to pad content.
The problem I find with platformers that reuse level types but more complex, is that they have less replayability. You end up just wanting to play the few "elite" levels in the set, and not the whole game. Generally, I tend to agree with the Mario tactic of making each level a unique thing, as rarity can make things more special and memorable.
By the end, DKCR only seems to reuse stuff such as the minecart when each minecart stage has something truly unique about it - not just longer, harder, with more traps, etc. So I can see enjoying playing through its full set of levels again.
Finally managed to pick the game up yesterday. Played through the first world with my brother and it's been pretty fun so far. There's stuff hidden everywhere, and it gets challenging at times too (yeah, I generally suck at 2D platformers nowadays)...
Retro did an amazing job, everything just feels alive and fresh, and the game still manages to be the DKC Country I remember.
Retro did an amazing job, everything just feels alive and fresh, and the game still manages to be the DKC Country I remember.
the thoroughbred
Member
I have just watched and read a few reviews. And everyone compares it to either Donkey Kong Country on the SNES or "the Rare offering".
Firstly is this just to fill in space and time. Because to me it seems irrelevant. It isn't exactly a sequel or anything. It's just a platformer. You measure it by it's controls and level design.
Secondly, if they must make a comparison why is there no mention of Donkey Kong: Jungle Beat. Just because it doesn't follow the "country" nomenclature it was still a great game in the series. To me it looks more like DK:JB than any other Donkey Kong game.
I think Nintendo realised that using a few old school words in the titles has a nostalgic impact which they over-sighted before. So it's not a really a revival of a series, since it was here on the Gamecube anyway. It's like the game never existed, despite a re-release recently.
Firstly is this just to fill in space and time. Because to me it seems irrelevant. It isn't exactly a sequel or anything. It's just a platformer. You measure it by it's controls and level design.
Secondly, if they must make a comparison why is there no mention of Donkey Kong: Jungle Beat. Just because it doesn't follow the "country" nomenclature it was still a great game in the series. To me it looks more like DK:JB than any other Donkey Kong game.
I think Nintendo realised that using a few old school words in the titles has a nostalgic impact which they over-sighted before. So it's not a really a revival of a series, since it was here on the Gamecube anyway. It's like the game never existed, despite a re-release recently.
_Alkaline_
Member
AniHawk said:
Don't hate Ani. Returns is fantastic.
AniHawk said:
Jungle Beat was easily one of the best, if not THE best 2d platformer the last gen had to offer to us. Too bad people were too lazy to learn the awesome konga controls for it.
(Not to mention some of the mechanics of the highly praised Super Mario Galaxy, currently GOTY 2007 GAF was actually introduced in Jungle Beat first.)
Dash Kappei
Not actually that important
I've just wanna drop a post to add a huge BRAVO to Retro Studios for this game.
I've just got it less than two days ago and I've been hooked since.
Doesn't happen often with me, most times even new games I buy go straight to my backlog (the wall of shame/money wasted when I could have waited for a pricedrop instead).
I must admit before gettin Returns I was adamant that I had enough of my share of platformers already for this gen, thanks to the Wii, but this game totally wowed me.
I was never a huuuuge fan of DKC but I enjoyed them (especially DCK2).
I, however, LOVED Jungle Beat, and even if different I'm loving Returns in a different way... it's not entirely brilliant like JB but it is amazing in its own way, the only little thing I can say is that it lacks JB's bosses, those were something else.
Well, this game's skyrocketing to my GOTY top 5 list.
Everything blends so well, I had a couple of problems with the controls the first hour or so but now they're second nature. The graphics, the art, difficulty curve and gameplay all scream "triple A" to me.
This one is shaping up as one of the few TRUE must-own games of the year for me.
I've just got it less than two days ago and I've been hooked since.
Doesn't happen often with me, most times even new games I buy go straight to my backlog (the wall of shame/money wasted when I could have waited for a pricedrop instead).
I must admit before gettin Returns I was adamant that I had enough of my share of platformers already for this gen, thanks to the Wii, but this game totally wowed me.
I was never a huuuuge fan of DKC but I enjoyed them (especially DCK2).
I, however, LOVED Jungle Beat, and even if different I'm loving Returns in a different way... it's not entirely brilliant like JB but it is amazing in its own way, the only little thing I can say is that it lacks JB's bosses, those were something else.
Well, this game's skyrocketing to my GOTY top 5 list.
Everything blends so well, I had a couple of problems with the controls the first hour or so but now they're second nature. The graphics, the art, difficulty curve and gameplay all scream "triple A" to me.
This one is shaping up as one of the few TRUE must-own games of the year for me.
Buckethead said:
4.) Add water levels
5.) More animal friends
6.) More vertical levels
7.) Better music and some DKC2 remixes
8.) Better enemies (I prefered the enemies in DKC Trilogy)
DKCR is a great game, but there is so much that can be improved. I still give this game a 9/10, but with these improvements they can make the best platformer of all time. Please Nintendo, let Retro work on the sequel right away.
Mr. Wonderful
Member
I would love Retro to do two more games for this series, just like they did a trilogy for Metroid.
the thoroughbred said:
People aren't comparing it to Jungle Beat for the same reasons they're not bringing up, say, King of Swing. First, they had nowhere near the impact of the DKC games. And second, they play almost nothing like the DKC games aside from being 2D platformers. JB is much faster and more arcadey, more about getting combos and less about precise platforming. Country is more about precise platforming and secrets.
They probably greenlit a new DKC game because they saw there was demand for it, but they didn't just make a random 2D platformer with DK and slap Country in the title for sales. They designed the game to feel like a successor to the DKC games, and they succeeded, especially in the level design and game mechanics.
Basically, it comes down to this: Remove DK from DKCR, and people would probably still compare it to DKC. Remove DK from JB, and nobody would know the difference.
Buckethead
Banned
I agree with the music and enemies, but I seriously don't understand the water level love.KAL2006 said:
Shitty controls, ahoy.
And yes, seconded, I'd love another Retro DK game, Nintendo needs to throw money at them so they can expand and work have a more frequent release schedule.
Kyleripman
Member
Mr. Wonderful said:
This. I'd love to see at least one more on Wii, but I don't know how realistic that is.
JasonUresti
Member
Maxrunner said:
No, just Cartoon Network Super Agent Theo Ani Hawk, and his notoriously shit taste.
RPGCrazied
Member
I'm only on the 3rd world, but what are the puzzles pieces for?
jamesinclair
Banned
Just played the first few levels.
I really hate the controls.
Waggle should not be forced upon us. I felt the same way about NSMB
And just like NSMB, they should have let me use the GC controller.
I really hate the controls.
Waggle should not be forced upon us. I felt the same way about NSMB
And just like NSMB, they should have let me use the GC controller.
On the one hand, I'd like to see Retro do a DKCR2 because from the Iwata Asks, it sounds like they really got into the groove after E3. If they only really got into the groove that close to launch, imagine how good a full game with the knowledge of the entire first game's development under their belt will be.
On the other hand, I don't want them to be stuck on one series for the next five or so years again. And seeing how different DKCR is from the Metroid Prime games in pretty much every single way yet they still manage to both be great, they're clearly extremely versatile. I'd love to see what else they can do.
On the other hand, I don't want them to be stuck on one series for the next five or so years again. And seeing how different DKCR is from the Metroid Prime games in pretty much every single way yet they still manage to both be great, they're clearly extremely versatile. I'd love to see what else they can do.
about 130% complete, all puzzle pieces through world four and all mirror levels through world 3 so far.
Do you have any sort of strategy for tackling the time trials? Or do you just speed through 'em and just try not to fuck up and while picking out where maybe you can roll-jump-bounce-bounce so that when you die or finish you can just try to make sure you catch it in the next run? That's basically been my approach, which takes forever :lol Trial, error, trial error, trial, error... it was fine for me for some of the harder levels that require this (first time you play some of the K levels for instance), but it was always much more rewarding to get a little each time in a level than the time trials have been so far.
JoeFenix said:
Do you have any sort of strategy for tackling the time trials? Or do you just speed through 'em and just try not to fuck up and while picking out where maybe you can roll-jump-bounce-bounce so that when you die or finish you can just try to make sure you catch it in the next run? That's basically been my approach, which takes forever :lol Trial, error, trial error, trial, error... it was fine for me for some of the harder levels that require this (first time you play some of the K levels for instance), but it was always much more rewarding to get a little each time in a level than the time trials have been so far.
richiek said:
My strategy:
You have to have good control of the rocket already, of course. If you've got that, then just realize this: He moves from top to bottom, but he shoots at a consistent rhythm. Always. So if you're at the top, and you drop all the way, he's going to stop on rhythm every time to shoot as he moves down. Once you get the timing, you can get a feel for when he's going to stop to shoot and you can begin to swerve between them. Heck, if you lead him right, sometimes you can just sit at the top of the screen while he works his way from the bottom and he'll have to shoot two misses before he finally makes it up to shoot you at the top, at which you'll be dropping down to snag a puzzle piece or something! Takes some practice, but the RHYTHM is important. He always shoots 1 shot every 2.5 seconds or whatever, and he'll wait and lock on to you if he can... if he can't get to you, he'll just shoot wherever he's at. This section is VERY short, so just stick it out! Once you get to the G-letter you're nearly there!
It's not bad at all once you get the hang of it. After dying several times I thought about what I was doing wrong, and I thought about his behavior on my next my life. Once I made note of the above and focused on that, it only took me two or three balloons to finish him off.
bananaman1234
Unconfirmed Member
richiek said:
I already said it earlier but I'll say it again: to propel your barrel all you need to do is hold the button down. Mashing is just to get it started.
Stallion Free
Cock Encumbered
People asked for this in the emulator thread so here are some shots in 1080p 9xSSAA for wallpapers and no examples because people get super bitchy about big pictures (other levels requested will come later):
Donkey Kong Country Returns Sunset Wallpapers 1080p BMPs
Donkey Kong Country Returns Sunset Wallpapers 1080p BMPs
This game...is fucking awesome. I find myself with a stupid-ass grin most of the time I'm playing it. It has also made me feel like an imbecile in some levels with the amount of times I've died.
Controls took a little bit of getting used to, but feel pretty smooth. I roll nowhere near as much as I did in the originals, I guess that's a design decision?
Some of the music reminds me of tropical-themed Metroid Prime songs :lol ...I think one of the Ruins levels in particular, will have to go find it again.
Controls took a little bit of getting used to, but feel pretty smooth. I roll nowhere near as much as I did in the originals, I guess that's a design decision?
Some of the music reminds me of tropical-themed Metroid Prime songs :lol ...I think one of the Ruins levels in particular, will have to go find it again.
Sgt.Pepper
Banned
DK needs some speed for roll, jumping and landing roll are incredible effective. I did some Time Trials and I never feel DK so fast, except for Jungle Beat of course.Rezbit said:
_Alkaline_
Member
Rezbit said:
Platform Panic is basically Ridley's Theme.
Sgt.Pepper
Banned
Yeah, don't bother with the jigsaw pieces at the moment. They are a lot harder to get, and they don't unlock levels. Unlike the DKC trilogy, the roll jump here is a lot bigger.Rezbit said:
The level design really shines when you do Time Trials, you can see Retro's effort in designing those levels.
I just noticed that I had a typo in my previous post. I better go to bed.