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Don't buy a Steam Deck, wait for Deck 2
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IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
Poor people
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saintjules
Member
You can't claim such a thing. People would hold off for something that may never exist. And even if it did, when?
If sales are disastrous for the first generation of a product, would there be another?
Mr Branding
Member
Nice try, Nintendo.
Honestly tho, weird topic. I have the mid one pre-ordered and can't wait for Q1.
Honestly tho, weird topic. I have the mid one pre-ordered and can't wait for Q1.
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
But now that PS5 pro is out and PS5 is the base spec, you’re better off waiting for Steam Deck 4Don't buy Steam Deck 2 wait for Steam Deck 3.
BlackTron
Member
At least PCs you can plan ahead a bit and upgrade your CPU and especially GFX card. Steam Deck is more like a laptop -you're paying extra money to shrink it down and be locked into the configuration.
If you want to jump back into PC gaming after a lapse, I wouldn't wait to get a Deck. If you already have a gaming PC, it's really tempting to wait for the next version. If I was able to play Game Boy games on my NES, I certainly would have been willing to wait for the Game Boy Color.
Captain Toad
Banned
Don't buy a PS5 wait for the PS7. It'll be more powerful - I PROMISE!
MiguelItUp
Member
Not to be an echo chamber, but Steam Deck 2 wouldn't exist if the first model doesn't sell and do well. That's just the reality of it all. Much like we saw with the Steam Link and controller.
I personally wanted to preorder as I love Valve, but then I decided I'd just wait as I don't really have an absolute need for one. But if that changes, I'll definitely support.
I personally wanted to preorder as I love Valve, but then I decided I'd just wait as I don't really have an absolute need for one. But if that changes, I'll definitely support.
MeatSafeMurderer
Member
I'm waiting for the PlayStation 10K, the preceeding 9,999 models are / will be for early adopters.
AV
We ain't outta here in ten minutes, we won't need no rocket to fly through space
Indeed, I wouldn't "jump back into PC gaming" by buying a deck. But whether the hardware is locked or not, it's still a PC where you can configure the software to the appropriate hardware level, generations just don't apply. A deck 1 will mostly still run PC games from 2030 as long as the user is comfortable playing them on the lowest settings possible at an appalling frame rate. OP's argument for waiting is just the age old "not a good time to upgrade" fallacy.
Great Hair
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Kokoloko85
Member
Yeah Im gonna wait till theres a Steam Deck 2. Maybe when stock is normal Ill try and get one in 2022
Better specs, better battery plus I dont really need one right now
Better specs, better battery plus I dont really need one right now
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DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
As ridiculous as OP is, this is also a ridiculous justification for not waiting.
Everyone needs to decide for themselves if it’s worth buying right now or not. Buy it if you think it’s worth it. Nobody is going to be persuaded to buy something they don’t really want in order to encourage the development of a next gen product.
Krappadizzle
Member
Steam Deck is gonna have to do EXTREMELY well for there to be a #2. Valve's Hardware history isn't very promising even if they tech they actually release is really great. IF more people accepted OP's mindset, you'd more than likely set up yourself for massive disappointment. Get the hardware to play things you want NOW. NOT for the potential things that COULD happen in the future.
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I guess, but the more I think about it the more I wanted Steam Deck for games like Street Fighter V and Monster Hunter World. These games are at the end of the lifecycle and the sequels will release within the next 2 years, so I will buy a Deck once those sequels release. If Deck 1 cannot handle those games I'll skip it. If Deck 2 is out and can run those games I'll get that. Getting a Deck just for legacy games is just not appealing for me, but I understand for some it is appealing but I just cannot see myself play games like Street Fighter V and Monster Hunter World when the sequels are out so that would mean if I bought a Deck I'd only get like 2 years out of it.
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I don't know why anyone buys anything when a better version is just around the corner.
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It all depends on if tech is ready. Mobile tech continues to improve hear by year. Fall 2023 will be 2 years after the original Deck, even fall 2024 will be 3 years after the original Deck. That's plenty of time for huge improvements in mobile tech.
Finally around 2023 is when next gen only games will kick into gear we will have things like Starfield already released. Street Fighter 6 will most likely release in early 2023. Monster Hunter World 2 will likely be fall 2023 early 2024. Ureal Engine 5 will start being used more around fall 2023.
BigBooper
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The computers in ten years time will easily handle emulation of modern systems, so why not wait for them too? What do you plan to do in the meantime? Besides, you're dreaming if you think we will get a cutting edge pc in handheld form at this kind of price. The other handheld PCs you mentioned are almost double the price. You could buy a Steam Deck now, and another one in a few years and come out even.
Incidentally, I don't understand the desire to only play the newest game in a series. If it's strictly iterative, like sports games where you want the updated roster, sure, but most games are still just as good after a sequel releases.
Incidentally, I don't understand the desire to only play the newest game in a series. If it's strictly iterative, like sports games where you want the updated roster, sure, but most games are still just as good after a sequel releases.
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I don't think you understand the concept of timing.
A generation lasts around 7 years with a bit of cross gen for extra added years of support. Why go by console generation you ask? Well 90 percent of games release target these consoles. So the smart thing to do is ensure the device you are buying can handle that generation, or else by the time the sequel for your favourite game releases you will drop it. Of course this is if you only insterested in Deck for legacy content then I guess my OP doenst matter but I'm talking strictly about buying a Deck to run games from this current generation.
If Monster Hunter World 2 and Street Fighter VI come out in fall 2023 that's only 2 years you get out of Deck. If you just wait until these games come out and bought a Deck 2 around then and the Deck 2 can run those games you would get atleast 6 years out of a Deck 2.
Interfectum
Member
Don't fall for the OP guys, he's just trying to get us to cancel our pre-orders to move up in the queue.
HeisenbergFX4
Member
I look forward to Deck 2, 4K Switch, PS5 Pro, Xbox Series X Elite, 4090 Ti GPU, Elite Series 3 controller with super duper haptics, 16k 32" 360HZ OLED monitors...
Or I can just buy stuff now and enjoy them..
Or I can just buy stuff now and enjoy them..
vdopey
Member
I am sorry but i think you have absolutely no concept of timing.
A new console generation started at the end of 2020, using an AMD ryzen/rdna2 APU - guess what the steam deck uses ? Yep same components cut down to work in a hand held factor. Perfect timing by Valve, fits right into the current generation - but no lets wait because some new game will require some hypothetical new hardware spec, we know nothing about the games coming out in a couple of years or their requirements, but trust this guy and his big brain logic.
The fact you actually then try to convince us your logic is "genius" is just:
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Setsuna Mudou
Member
Not trying to be classist here but ffs, the penny pinching on the OP is something 
Of you're buying a handheld you're never going to get any top of the line performance. It will always be a compromise between heat dissipation, battery, cost and performance on the machine. Raise one and all the others get impacted.
It's also kind of stupid to look at this as "generation", like we're talking consoles. If anything talk fabrication nodes or cpu/gpu architecture changes (e.g. tick tock approach) to time your purchase.
If you really want to maximize your enjoyment vs money spend do this:
- pre order and get it day 0
- enjoy it to the fullest
- once new iteration is announced, pre order new version
- sell current version
Way better than holding out years of enjoyment to save on $100 to $200
edit: pre ordered mine and it's due to arrive next month
Of you're buying a handheld you're never going to get any top of the line performance. It will always be a compromise between heat dissipation, battery, cost and performance on the machine. Raise one and all the others get impacted.
It's also kind of stupid to look at this as "generation", like we're talking consoles. If anything talk fabrication nodes or cpu/gpu architecture changes (e.g. tick tock approach) to time your purchase.
If you really want to maximize your enjoyment vs money spend do this:
- pre order and get it day 0
- enjoy it to the fullest
- once new iteration is announced, pre order new version
- sell current version
Way better than holding out years of enjoyment to save on $100 to $200
edit: pre ordered mine and it's due to arrive next month
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sunnysideup
Banned
Deck is the best thing since playstation invented the cdrom.
MiguelItUp
Member
I wholeheartedly agree.
Exactly. I honestly really want one, but I know that with my lifestyle, I'd barely use it, which is why I didn't preorder.
Yeah, I've never heard of someone buying something to encourage the development of a later model, lmao. If you want it, you get it. If it does well, more iterations and models will come, that's all there is to it. Lol.
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GreatnessRD
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megreotsugua
Banned
Deck 7 for me.
yurinka
Member
According to the leaked Capcom schedule of their games for the upcoming years, SF6 was listed there as crossgen multiplatform game. So if it's the case and it runs at 60fps in a base PS4, will run fine in Deck 1 as SFV does. SF6 was listed in that early 2020 document as a late 2022 game, so considering covid I assume it must have been delayed to early/mid 2023 or so.
Capcom also mentioned they want to push their PC sales, and since most of the PC players have mid/low tier hardware, I'm pretty sure their other upcoming games will be really flexible to run them in older PC hardware. So it's pretty likely that they will run fine in Deck 1. Regarding Deck 2, even Valve doesn't know if they will release it. And if they do it, when they are going to release it.
I assume Deck 1 will perform well in sales and they will release a Deck 2, or that at least there will be some more powerful 3rd party handheld PC released after Deck 1. But I don't see Deck 2 being released 1 or 2 years after Deck 1, I think they will take some years more.
Magic Carpet
Gold Member
But I need something to play my Netflix games on NOW.
Shifty1897
Member
Let's be clear: If you don't buy the Steam Deck, there won't be a Deck 2.
NeoIkaruGAF
Gold Member
I’ll dive in with the Deck Pro.
HerjansEagleFeeder
Member
Is this satire or what
Made my day.SlimeGooGoo
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ThatStupidLion
Member
i'm still waiting to buy Vita 2
SidViscous
Member
don't listen to KAL2006, wait for KAL2007's oppinion.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
You're not wrong. The Deck will be a cool device for playing most current games on the go, but it will suffer greatly once the PS4 generation is left behind and games start being made with the new consoles as the baseline.