As someone who owns both, the Steam Deck is infintely more comfortable in the hands than the S2. A properly thick handheld with properly sized joysticks and bigger battery was on the cards, but Nintendo stuck with the ergonomic nightmare of a design that they came up with nearly a decade ago, replete with the same tiny Vita-style joysticks.
Isn't it just more efficient due to lower node process?
Except it's not new, it's an Nvidia APU made around basically the same time as the Aerith AMD APU (2020-2021-ish)A new arm processor is faster and more power efficient than an x86 apu from 6 years ago???
While I agree the Deck's bigger, fuller ergonomics make it more comfortable for gaming, I can actually comfortably game in bed with the Switch 2 at night, which I absolutely can not with the Deck. The Deck feels heavier and more unwieldily, it's uncomfortable to prop up with your arms alone compared to the Switch 2. I also fucking despised the Switch 1 handheld ergonomics so the S2 being actually usable with big hands is a massive upgrade for me.
I disagree with the battery being a "cheapskate" move, the Switch 2 is like 1/3 of the thickness of the Steam Deck, I think it was more a choice of ergonomic design. The S2 would've likely been bulky as hell with a larger battery setup, which doesn't work right with the joycon design and whatnot. Considering the Pro Controller and Joycons themselves have excellent battery life compared to competing hardware, I highly doubt Nintendo deliberately put in a tiny battery to be cheap.
For portable? Native resolution works, as those settings are lower than the Steam Deck preset, so no FSR or XeSS needed. Docked is naturally not even comparable, Steam Deck will never match that.Just finished video
The image quality is not even comparable, even with lord and savior github tinkering for XeSS in the end
That's a nail in the coffin
Agree, this debate is over. For me was pretty obvious weeks ago… A W for the Switch 2. But some people are not going to take the L.Just finished video
The image quality is not even comparable, even with lord and savior github tinkering for XeSS in the end
That's a nail in the coffin
To Nintendo Switch 2 haters…
I kinda like mine.
isn't switch 2 hardware from 2021?
SoC design is from late 2021 around the same time that Ada was designed, but the tech wasn't gonna be ready until Ada was ready for production until 2022, so I guess it was ready in early 2023 or late 2022
It'll be fun to see it outperform the upcoming ROG Xbox Ally as well.
Rog ally xbox I doubt, I mean they are inefficient with so much compute and bandwidth starved, but they'll brute force their way. But one thing remains, they are stuck with non AI FSR. So...
A demo of Wild hearts just dropped on Switch 2 btw
4k is probably capture but it seems to hit high fps, 60 ? Seem to be frame for frame on Youtube for 60
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Steamdeck has a rough time with this game, I thought every systems did actually, that this was badly optimized
The hitch on steam deck as he approachs the "loading" passage compared to switch 2
Native gives you better resolve than DLSS at resolutions this low. Even in Cyberpunk. Come on man, you game on PC you know this. DLSS doesn't match native, even at 1080p, much less 720p. Old DLSS 3.x would only surpass native at 4k/DLSS Quality or maybe 1440p/DLSS Quality. This isn't using the newer transformer model, it's not going to pull miracles upscaling from 450p to 810p. You have a PC, try native 720p vs DLSS Quality at 720p for example. XeSS is recommended on the deck because people want to use higher settings than what the Switch 2 uses (the higher Steam Deck preset I mentioned), or not have such severe FPS drops in Phantom Liberty, Switch 2 is shit out of luck there.
So the Steam Deck is the better portable device because it has a bigger battery and draws more wattage. Plus it has OLED. Plus is has better ergonomics. Plus it has Steam OS/Steam sales. Plus you don't pay for online or cloud saves. Cyberpunk Ultimate is $38 bucks right now on Steam and It's $70 on Nintendo's eshop. Steam Deck came out like 3.5 years ago and it's neck and neck with a Nintendo console that came out last month?! Come on, Gaf Bros …
I get it. Nintendo games have that secret sauce but they are bending their fan base over hard.
The large screen, kickstand and thin profile make it the perfect device for tabletop mode, where you can use the Pro controller. What is more comfortable than holding a portable device with an ergonomic grip? Not holding the portable device at all!
I don't know man, I've got both and when playing Cyberpunk 2077 next to each other they look and perform extremely close. The only real advantages the deck has is faster loading and a superior display. Could just be the OLED that makes it look so much better for you?
That means you're not a child, otherwise you would've seen it. I showed my 2 yo son and he was like "the higher contrast of the screen of the OLED coupled with the XeSS upscaling technology puts the Steam Deck version a generation ahead of the Switch 2, which isn't surprising considered Nintendo's history with hardware over the past 20+ years".
Yet others get a bit upset when you point out that the Switch 2 doesn't look or perform better in handheld mode. Wasn't the narrative before launch that the Switch 2 utterly destroys the Steam Deck in portable play in this game?So now the Switch obviously performs better, we have people starting about cheaper games and storage in a comparison thread between 2 versions.....
Talk about moving the goalpost.
Well i believe that's because people are being obnoxious about it.
I've played Cyberpunk quite a bit (more than 200h, I believe), and I think it uses a system where NPC quantity is greatly reduced when driving (specially at high speeds)
It's native 720p. Absolutely nothing crap about that. DLSS 3 is not better than native at those resolutions, and no serious PC gamer has ever bothered to make that claim.
Yes, Richard said image quality is cleaner when comparing the Switch 2 to the Steam Deck when using FSR or XeSS. Notice they never said anything about it looking better than native at those low pixels counts, because only the most extreme PC fanboys would ever claim anything like this. Anybody who knows anything about PC gaming knows that at the more your resolution drops, the more DLSS 3 struggles to offer a comparable or better image as native. You have a PC, I'll reiterate, test it for yourself. You'll quickly notice that while DLSS has the upper hand in stability, in looses in clarity, especially in motion.
Of course I'm serious. Don't try and gaslight me, or does Gigabowsers nonsense not count? I can pull up dozen posts on this forum which claimed the Switch 2 will outperform the Steam Deck in portable play, including yours.
Well I hope it doesn't
