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[Smurfman256]

Anyone know how Digital Foundry does their frame rate analysis? I wanna see where the frame rate of that demo was sitting at and it doesn't look like they're doing an analysis of that demo any time soon.

(And I'd REALLY rather not sit down with VLC Media player and count all 80,000 frames of the first demo all fucking day).

 

[Smurfman256]

There is now an Alpha coming out for DOOM multiplayer for QuakeCon attendees. Select players who have Beta access will be selected in the coming months for Alpha gameplay. http://www.bethblog.com/2015/07/23/quakecon-2015-doom-beta-alpha-update/

 

[RoboPlato]

Gamersyde has some new screens and it seems like some of the art design suggestions are being taken into account. The Revenant doesn't have pupils any more as far as I can tell and color grading in the space station also seems toned down a bit.

More here:
http://www.gamersyde.com/news_new_screenshots_of_doom-16856_en.html

 

[Smurfman256]

http://www.gamersyde.com/pop_images_doom-29004-5.html

WHAT IS THIS AND WHEN CAN I USE IT?!

 

[Smurfman256]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peMIym95WNU

Here's some footage from the QuakeCon floor.

 

[wwm0nkey]

Oh yeah this looks a LOT better

 

[nextgeneration]

Ok, these look pretty good. Some nice detail. Here's hoping for some new single player gameplay footage out of Quakecon.

 

[Syf]

Much much better. +10 hype points

 

[DrakeNathan]

GameStar editor impression
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBEfv37_k0E

 

[inm8num2]

http://images.gamersyde.com/image_doom-29004-3000_0005.jpg[/imgz]

Oh yeah this looks a LOT better[/QUOTE]

That looks awesome - can't wait to see more.

 

[Ixion]

Gamersyde has some new screens and it seems like some of the art design suggestions are being taken into account. The Revenant doesn't have pupils any more as far as I can tell and color grading in the space station also seems toned down a bit.

There's no filter though. The game just has strong dynamic lighting. That hell picture isn't under the yellow sky and that factory picture isn't near lava.

If people are worried the game will be yellow all the time, then don't be.

 

[msv]

So... loadouts and 2 weapon max in multiplayer. Movement is slower than Quake.

Some multiplayer footage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peMIym95WNU

German interview of someone who played the multiplayer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBEfv37_k0E

Is there no Quakecon thread? I'd expected one first page, but nothing.

Loadouts and two weapons though, bleh - I'll be sorely disappointed if there are no 'traditional' style Duel, FFA, and CTF modes. Doesn't seem like there's strafejumping either, have any players tried?

 

[Funky Papa]

I still believe that enemies should be more popping in terms of colour, but whatever.

http://www.gamersyde.com/pop_images_doom-29004-5.html

WHAT IS THIS AND WHEN CAN I USE IT?!

That's the new BFG.

 

[msv]

There's no filter though. The game just has strong dynamic lighting. That hell picture isn't under the yellow sky and that factory picture isn't near lava.

If people are worried the game will be yellow all the time, then don't be.

Yeah people who were complaining about a filter were using the wrong word, it's a color cast / strongly colored lighting.

My peeve when it comes to color is that the enemies are not distinct from the background. The dark / one-tone lighting and greyishly textured enemies, plus the imp and hell knight looking alike makes for enemies that blend away too much. Personally, I like it better when enemies pop, then you can track them better in your peripheral vision.

 

[Creaking]

Oh yeah this looks a LOT better

The environment still looks pretty lousy. So, so grey.

 

[NBtoaster]

Seems to confirm multiple cyberdemons (unlike Doom 3).

 

[peanutbutterlatte]

Still not a huge fan of the enemy design, but at least the Cyberdemon actually looks threatening in that shot.

 

[Funky Papa]

Still not a huge fan of the enemy design, but at least the Cyberdemon actually looks threatening in that shot.

I still think it looks too Warcraft-ish. Doom can be cartoony at times, but that particular character seems too out of place for my liking, specially given that the Cyberdemon was such a classic and threatening design. Unlike imps, pinkies and cacodemons, it was one of those enemies that only needed minute alterations.

I also find curious how the new Imps (?) look a lot like the shrunken down, less menacing version of Doom 3's Hell Knights.

Which was another classic design utterly butchered along the Cacodemon, the Commando and the horrendously mediocre Mancubus. Interesting enough, Doom 3 featured some very interesting original enemies that I wouldn't mind coming back, such as the Cherub and the Trite.

 

[goombatommy]

Doom 3 featured some very interesting original enemies that I wouldn't mind coming back, such as the Cherub and the Trite.

That Cherub scared the heck out of me first time you came across it when I first played Doom 3. All you kept hearing were these cries "ma ma..ma ma..." and that blood curdling cry they make when you killed one.

 

[Funky Papa]

Fucking cherubs, man.

My first encounter with them was one of the few truly memorable moments from Doom 3.

 

[NBtoaster]

Think the Doom 3 hell knight design is itself a classic. Very menacing and powerful, a fitting upper class monster.

 

[RoyalLaFlame]

This game man... this game. And that Mick Gordon goodness!

 

[maniac-kun]

Oh yeah this looks a LOT better

Did they change the flying demon from the reveal?

 

[ashecitism]

The Hell Knight in this looks almost exactly like the 3 version btw.

 

[goombatommy]

I've all of a sudden been inspired to re-install Doom 3 BFG Edition again.

 

[Funky Papa]

Think the Doom 3 hell knight design is itself a classic. Very menacing and powerful, a fitting upper class monster.

I prefer the classic design because demons are inherently better, but the Doom 3 version had tons of presence. You knew you were about to get a right pummeling as soon as they showed up. I wouldn't mind DOOM using both designs, to be honest.

 

[haikira]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peMIym95WNU

Here's some footage from the QuakeCon floor.

For anyone who can't currently watch the video.

 

[Funky Papa]

The MP looks like a terrific mix of Quake 2 and 3.

I approve.

 

[Hank Scorpio]

What do people think of the finishing/execution moves they showed in the demo?

For me, the enemies in Doom were always to be feared. Even the regular grunts.

Having finishing moves that also give you invulnerability while performing them dilutes any fear I have of the enemies. It's a power fantasy ability when for me Doom should always be about feeling completely vulnerable and isolated against far superior foes.

I really hope we can disable them on higher difficulties.

 

[peanutbutterlatte]

I still think it looks too Warcraft-ish. Doom can be cartoony at times, but that particular character seems too out of place for my liking, specially given that the Cyberdemon was such a classic and threatening design. Unlike imps, pinkies and cacodemons, it was one of those enemies that only needed minute alterations.

I also find curious how the new Imps (?) look a lot like the shrunken down, less menacing version of Doom 3's Hell Knights.

Which was another classic design utterly butchered along the Cacodemon, the Commando and the horrendously mediocre Mancubus. Interesting enough, Doom 3 featured some very interesting original enemies that I wouldn't mind coming back, such as the Cherub and the Trite.

Don't get me wrong, I still hate half of the designs. They seem intent on going OTT rather than keeping the realistic look of the creepy originals. The Barons of Hell from Doom 3 is such a terrible enemy redesign.

Lets take creepy goat-men and make them... whatever the hell that is.

 

[Smurfman256]

Movement is slower than Quake.

actually, that's about as fast as Quake 1/2's walking speed (e.g. NOT holding down Shift or whatever you have sprint bound to).

 

[Smurfman256]

I still believe that enemies should be more popping in terms of colour, but whatever.


That's the new BFG.

Actually, I think this may be that "Static Cannon" gun I've been hearing about; it charges it's shots by the player's movement and standing still drains the battery rapidly.

 

[msv]

actually, that's about as fast as Quake 1/2's walking speed (e.g. NOT holding down Shift or whatever you have sprint bound to).

Huh? Why would you not have always run on? If that's the walk speed then that's fine, and you're right. Hm, I think I'm a bit skeptical of that, would be great if true though.

 

[Funky Papa]

Actually, I think this may be that "Static Cannon" gun I've been hearing about; it charges it's shots by the player's movement and standing still drains the battery rapidly.

Oh man, that sounds wild. Stupid, but wild.

 

[JumPeRJumPzZ]

any reuploads`?

 

[KN1GHTMARE]

I've missed this twitch non military shooter. I'm kinda excited but need to see more.

 

[rezuth]

Oh yeah this looks a LOT better

This looks balls to the walls! A lot better than the weird color grading used before.

 

[MattGalvatron]

Been playing Brutal Doom with doom 2 wad..beat that. Played doom 64 for pc remake beat that. I am ready for the new doom, It looks amazing to me.

These new screens give me hope that diff levels will be diff colors and not all orange.

 

[SerTapTap]

Oh yeah this looks a LOT better

Looking much better though it's a bit drab still (I always hated that foggy look). I hope there's more to hell than stone and bleh, give me some flesh walls and eye switches again.

Is that the new BFG in that shot?

 

[Cmerrill]

Oh yeah this looks a LOT better

Where is all the colour? So bland. Needs deeper reds, and didn't that flying beast have blue in the original? Hate the colour palette.

 

[Psyrgery ES]

Gamersyde has some new screens and it seems like some of the art design suggestions are being taken into account. The Revenant doesn't have pupils any more as far as I can tell and color grading in the space station also seems toned down a bit.

More here:
http://www.gamersyde.com/news_new_screenshots_of_doom-16856_en.html

That looks AMAZING!!!!

Also, if I recall correctly, new DOOM's Revenant never had pupils.

As for running speed, I think it's fine as it is.

Solid controls are far more important than fast movement. Shadow Warrior is very fast, but I don't feel I'm in control. The controls in that game are too freaking slippery.

 

[Brerlappin]

Don't get me wrong, I still hate half of the designs. They seem intent on going OTT rather than keeping the realistic look of the creepy originals. The Barons of Hell from Doom 3 is such a terrible enemy redesign.

Lets take creepy goat-men and make them... whatever the hell that is.

Wat

The BoH in D3 is fuckin BADASS. Love its design. But yeah, those screenshots are a huge improvement

 

[Mr Swine]

Wat

The BoH in D3 is fuckin BADASS. Love its design. But yeah, those screenshots are a huge improvement

There are no BoH in D3, only Hell Knights..

Also man this game looks good! Up there with Uncharted 4!

 

[Rembrandt]

For anyone who can't currently watch the video.

looks good. i'm pretty hyped for this.

 

[Theman2k]

no new trailer or a direct feed video ?

 

[Spoo]

no new trailer or a direct feed video ?

I think either Saturday or Sunday they were supposed to have a stage demo of new DOOM gameplay? So... maybe we'll get something then.

 

[Smurfman256]

I think either Saturday or Sunday they were supposed to have a stage demo of new DOOM gameplay? So... maybe we'll get something then.

Saturday 3pm-4pm.
http://http://www.denofgeek.us/games/quakecon/247869/quakecon-2015-stream-schedule

 

[Forsaken82]

The environment still looks pretty lousy. So, so grey.

It looks like a Catacomb...

Do you expect lush foliage deep in the bowels of hell?

 

[Reebot]

It looks like a Catacomb...

Do you expect lush foliage deep in the bowels of hell?

Dude you should pop open a color wheel sometime, you'll be surprised. There's more than just grey, down, and green.

 

[Creaking]

It looks like a Catacomb...

Do you expect lush foliage deep in the bowels of hell?

Maybe not lush foliage, but I'd be more interested in seeing a more colorful hell like in the Dooms of yore.

Obviously the lighting would have to change a bit, but as it is, that screenshot just looks like a dungeon from Skyrim. I guess I like the idea of hell having creepy monolithic structures of an unearthly nature, rather than looking like generic ruins.