Shackleshot is way more imba. I just hope when it get hits with the nerf stick, it doesnt get nerfed too much.
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Shackleshot is way more imba. I just hope when it get hits with the nerf stick, it doesnt get nerfed too much.
Soloing against a good Huskar.....it is the worst.
WHAT'S THAT, YOU WANT THESE CREEPS? HAVE THESE FLAMING SPEARS INSTEAD!
At least Shackle Shot is not 3200 range.
It's fucking ludicrous, IceFrog could cut it in half and it still would be a great spell.
Think the fact it's not getting nerfed is because you really need to latch to trees/creeps/heroes to be really effective. It's worthless in open places unless 2 heroes stand straight next to each other. And if there is a brood/NP on the enemy team they can just remove a shit ton of tree's to cancel it out a lot as well.
At least tornado isnt a 3.75 second stun on two heroes that costs nothing and has a 12 second cooldown.
Actually I was speaking about Tornado when I wrote that, but my bad, I did not make that clear lol.
Shackle Shot specifically, I think it should be 3.75s disable total on heroes ; meaning if you latch one hero to a tree (or a creep), it stuns for 3.75s, but if it shackles to another hero, both are stunned for 2 seconds.
That could be a way.
Shackle Shot specifically, I think it should be 3.75s disable total on heroes ; meaning if you latch one hero to a tree (or a creep), it stuns for 3.75s, but if it shackles to another hero, both are stunned for 2 seconds.
That could be a way.
Except for the fact that Broodmother and NP make tons of valid shackle targets themselves when they do that. Shackle Shot can latch someone up to 1100 units away since the spell has a cast range of 600 and a tether range of 500.
Stahsky
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I've seen plenty of heroes die cause they got shackled to a broodling.
Yeah, that's not even being "new", that's just being stupid. Sure, I still don't know what the hell I'm doing in the game, but even in my very first game, where I spent my time aimlessly wandering around, I at least attacked the enemy when I saw them, especially if they were fighting my teammates at the time. Sure, I ended up dying every single time (I still have yet to actually kill another hero), but at least I tried to actually help the teammates that were obviously in the middle of a fight.
Stahsky
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I've been playing some bot matches lately just to learn about characters not named Lich and the bots are brutal when it comes to focus firing.
True, but the trees are down for a couple of minutes and all the spiders/trees will be with them in the mean time. Depends on the situation of course but let's say it's 1 vs 1 where trees are gone it's useless as in any open spots.
It's not much of course but still.. it's..something..
You can't learn with bots.
Well maybe you could if allied bots were not stupid dumb bastards, but they are, so alas. Bunching up together? Check. TP back to base after killing 2-3 enemy heroes and pushed down T2 tower instead of keep pushing? Check. Not following up on your initiations and waiting at towers like pansies? Check.
SHADUUUUUUUUUUUUP, love that you never have any counterarguments and just go full /b/-tard every post.
Is there something wrong by not wanting the game being F2P with big limits?
Gully State
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I was after learning abilities and such...I'd rather have some semblance on how a hero mechanically plays before I test him in a real match.. I've been playing support in normal matches but haven't bothered with playing a carry just yet..
VanillaCakeIsBurning
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So I decided to try Pudge today and had a lot of fun hooking people. I can see why people find him annoying now.
I also noticed that teammates complain a lot more if you pick him, missed hooks and all that.
I also noticed that teammates complain a lot more if you pick him, missed hooks and all that.
Dreams-Visions
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being in just about any lane against a good Huskar sucks. Same with Pudge after he's leveled up a bit, though for different reasons.
my one word to describe playing against a team with a fed Pudge: anxiety.
"never stop moving, for he is lurking."
Pudge
Be with them? In the teamfight? With the Windrunner that shackles your carry to a treant?
I wasn't talking about teamfights. The spiders and trees will be with the heroes while the main trees are still down for a while is what I meant. Leaving a big gaping hole in places with nothing to latch on.
Dreams-Visions
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Only heroes I've found genuinely annoying is Huskar and Bounty/Riki on dumb teams that don't ward or get a gem. and a stalking Pudge. a fed Drow is hella annoying when you get caught in a lane by yourself. You just about can't get away. Zeus can feel cheap with his "anywhere on da map fuck you" Ult.
Of course, any hero that's been fed by allies will feel annoying.
Random question: what do you guys do when you look up and realize that perhaps because of your team feeding, you find yourself down 3+ levels to an opponent? The obvious answer is to try to go farm, but sometimes that's just not an option. Just accept the eventual loss? lol.
Of course, any hero that's been fed by allies will feel annoying.
Random question: what do you guys do when you look up and realize that perhaps because of your team feeding, you find yourself down 3+ levels to an opponent? The obvious answer is to try to go farm, but sometimes that's just not an option. Just accept the eventual loss? lol.
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Hang around the fountain and shit talk about how your teammates are garbage to the other team so they know that had you had different teammates, you would've won.
Buy Magic Stick, problem solved.
the hell are you talking about?
Togglesworlh
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I believe he is insinuating that you are a forwardslash-B-forwardlash-dash-tard.
BrLvgThrChmstry
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Huskar. I've made it a point to gank him as much as possible, asap (usually doesn't work out). Can't count how many games I've lost to a good Huskar. MEGA KILL.
Schweinehund
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I would like a good discussion on this item. It's probably the least used item in the game.
I thought it would be good on a team that emphasizes aoe magic damage. Jakiro/Enigma/QoP/Lich seems like they would benefit from this item immensely.
When did these get there?
Cool.
Also, looks like there is going to be dota stuff built into steam. There is URLs in one of the files such as steam://dota.hero.sven steam://dota.itembuild.default_sven steam://dota.item.claritypotion
Togglesworlh
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Roaming Drow/VS? Instant win.
Dreams-Visions
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Drow catching someone alone in a lane is a cheat code.
well...as long as they're melee and try to run away. Most people see that slow and try to retreat rather than engage. In many cases if they had just tried to fight her from the beginning, they could have won the fight.
But yea, Drow sneaking up on a team fight is...well she's a Carry for a reason.
No, I randomed Riki and refused to go in the same lane as blood seaker, and them wanting to prove they are more stubborn then me, decided rather then splitting up, they were going to roam together. And it fucking worked. We had 3 solo lanes, they got 4 kills in the first 8 minutes of the game without anyone on the team dying, and all before Drow got level 2. Drow didn't even have any CC, she had Precision Aura. Blood Seaker ganked ganked ganked, I farmed up all day and killed anyone who tried to come in the same lane with a Blink/Smoke/Diffusal Blade Combo (WR and Lich died so fast to it), and Drow farmed up heavily with the Jungle, actually ending up with a slightly higher GPM then I did in the end.
Togglesworlh
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INSTANT. WIN.
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