Dota 2 Beta Thread V: Real Talk Strikes Back [Tutorials]

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mmm, we where in a match where our team had better heroes than the other team, except for a bounty hunter in the other side who had a very high level quicly and in the end made the other team win since dissapeared and killed everyone, hell, I started to get killed quickly

Will need some advice, I was lina
 
Just gave it a test, Multiple instances of Curse of the Silent now stack. So you can cast Silencer's ult and put Curse of the Silent on an enemy.

Edit: You can use Refresher/Scepter to kill every creep on the map!
 
mmm, we where in a match where our team had better heroes than the other team, except for a bounty hunter in the other side who had a very high level quicly and in the end made the other team win since dissapeared and killed everyone, hell, I started to get killed quickly

Will need some advice, I was lina

Buying Sentry Wards at the start of the game if you know you are going against a bounty hunter will slow him down tremendously. It is very easy to get kills on him pre level 6 because he does not have the movement speed buff from track, provided you have the sentry wards to see him.
 
Buying Sentry Wards at the start of the game if you know you are going against a bounty hunter will slow him down tremendously. It is very easy to get kills on him pre level 6 because he does not have the movement speed buff from track, provided you have the sentry wards to see him.

mmm, so I put them in my lane even though if I know that he will not be in the same? at least he ganked me a lot at the beggining, since I was fighting against 2 heroes and suddenly he appeared
 
mmm, so I put them in my lane even though if I know that he will not be in the same? at least he ganked me a lot at the beggining, since I was fighting against 2 heroes and suddenly he appeared

Usually he will not be running around ganking other lanes before level 6. I would only get sentry wards if I knew he was going to be in the lane you were in.
 
mmm, so I put them in my lane even though if I know that he will not be in the same? at least he ganked me a lot at the beggining, since I was fighting against 2 heroes and suddenly he appeared

Usually he will not be running around ganking other lanes before level 6. I would only get sentry wards if I knew he was going to be in the lane you were in.

Buy the sentry wards and place on courier..that way the lane with BH can use it...also, put it down just before you're ready to gank..
 
I don't get it, how I place the sentry in the courier?

He means buy them and keep them on the courier. That way anyone can get them delivered, depending on what lane Bounty is in.

*edit* Bounty's my favourite hero, but with just a little detection you're going to give him a very hard time early on. A good Bounty Hunter knows where to hunt, and at what times. Catch people out, punish them for not expecting you.
 
Want to play some matches with noobs from here so I could stop playing with random guys, but don't know if it will be a problem since I'm from chile

Even though my internet speed is good

Play in USA east, I get like 150-180 ms from here (Peru). Is not as good as that one argetinian server from wc1, but is ok.
 
Huskar feels a little bit weaker in that he can't just destroy teams at super low health, but you'll have a much much tougher time killing him. He's like a tanky iniator now with some good damage to boot.

edit: DK poison is still single target, doesn't splash, doesn't carry over to level 3 ult.
 
Just gave it a test, Multiple instances of Curse of the Silent now stack. So you can cast Silencer's ult and put Curse of the Silent on an enemy.

Edit: You can use Refresher/Scepter to kill every creep on the map!

Are you being serious or kidding? How is that balanced in anyway? Damn Icefraud
 
On a terrible losing streak right now. Just really shitting up any lane I step into. Give some advice gaf, who's your go to hero when you wanna snap out of a funk?

I think my next match I'm going to force my group to pick nothing but heros that press R to win. Maybe Lina Lion Mag and Tide. Then we will only fight every 120 seconds.
 
On a terrible losing streak right now. Just really shitting up any lane I step into. Give some advice gaf, who's your go to hero when you wanna snap out of a funk?

I think my next match I'm going to force my group to pick nothing but heros that press R to win. Maybe Lina Lion Mag and Tide. Then we will only fight every 120 seconds.

Drow, Nyx, Axe. Easy modo heroes.
 
On a terrible losing streak right now. Just really shitting up any lane I step into. Give some advice gaf, who's your go to hero when you wanna snap out of a funk?

I think my next match I'm going to force my group to pick nothing but heros that press R to win. Maybe Lina Lion Mag and Tide. Then we will only fight every 120 seconds.

Lina's and Lion ulti don't mean much in the late game if the other team is smart enough to get magic resistance/nullify items. Morever they might also find a way to silence you. So they are not easy heros either. Stealing kill with their ulti might be fun but you also steal them from the carry which might lead to trouble later on.

Tidehunter's ulti is good if you have a blink dagger and know how to position yourself. You also need good communication with the team i.e. make sure everyone attack after you use it and you told them you would use it.
 
Play in USA east, I get like 150-180 ms from here (Peru). Is not as good as that one argetinian server from wc1, but is ok.

Gracias Hermano!

Nobody wants to play from the east USA servers? like I said, I want to start playing with a consistent team rather than randoms, though at times are funny
 
Looks like he's using macros.

The video is from a replay so it doesn't show him tabbing through his meepos. Even if you spectate a game and switch it to player perspective it doesn't cycle through units like it should, or at least it didn't the last time I watched someone play a micro hero.
 
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So I noticed something weird today. Why does Homing Missile cost more mana than Call Down? That seems to make no sense that that garbage spell costs MORE mana that Gyro's ult that is actually pretty good.
 
Getting tired of people I play with telling me they can carry and then feeding/not farming at all. Just lost 3 in houses in a row because people insist on carries and then fail. I win mid all 3 games, gank well, give us the early game advantage and we still lose every match. Need to start playing carries so I have nobody to blame but myself.
 
Is it pretty much a requirement to have at least one ranged hero a two man lane? I've had some really nasty games recently where I was in a dual melee lane where we just couldn't farm or deny.
 
Is it pretty much a requirement to have at least one ranged hero a two man lane? I've had some really nasty games recently where I was in a dual melee lane where we just couldn't farm or deny.

Its the rule of thumb. You can get away with Double Melee in some combos, but not many.
 
Is it pretty much a requirement to have at least one ranged hero a two man lane? I've had some really nasty games recently where I was in a dual melee lane where we just couldn't farm or deny.

To be safe, you really should try to have a ranged. It depends on your lane opponents and the two melee heroes in question, though. If you're going to dual melee a lane, you need both of them to have strong gank potential - and preferably some synergy as well. Also, you might need to concede last hits for a couple levels until you have your core skills.
 
Is it pretty much a requirement to have at least one ranged hero a two man lane? I've had some really nasty games recently where I was in a dual melee lane where we just couldn't farm or deny.
It's possible if one of the melee heroes has a ranged ability, like Sven's stun. You would need some sort of mana regen to use it more often, but it'll drive back the other heroes, and make farming easier.
 
Deus meepo....NOP!!

Deus Tinker, godly!
LOL.... too true.

Although that Meepo game wasn't his fault, all our lanes failed simultaneously. It was a full high skilled stack vs a group of varied skill players (some new, some good).. the result was obvious. Plus the naughty Lifestealer stole all my Ancient Stacks!
 
LOL.... too true.

Although that Meepo game wasn't his fault, all our lanes failed simultaneously. It was a full high skilled stack vs a group of varied skill players (some new, some good).. the result was obvious. Plus the naughty Lifestealer stole all my Ancient Stacks!

Yeah we got hardcore outpicked, but at least mid player was better than me. Won't deny that.
 
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