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Dota 2 Beta Thread V: Real Talk Strikes Back [Tutorials]

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Warlock probably needs a nerf. The dude can support early-mid game and then straight up go head to head with farmed carries late game. Its pretty ridiculous. Not sure how to fix him though. He definitely needs a reworking, his 3rd skill is very situational and his ult is broken. Maybe increase the cooldown of the ult or lower the golem HP?
 

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HK-47

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Warlock probably needs a nerf. The dude can support early-mid game and then straight up go head to head with farmed carries late game. Its pretty ridiculous. Not sure how to fix him though. He definitely needs a reworking, his 3rd skill is very situational and his ult is broken. Maybe increase the cooldown of the ult or lower the golem HP?

Warlock is a terrible support.
 

Sibylus

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Warlock probably needs a nerf. The dude can support early-mid game and then straight up go head to head with farmed carries late game. Its pretty ridiculous. Not sure how to fix him though. He definitely needs a reworking, his 3rd skill is very situational and his ult is broken. Maybe increase the cooldown of the ult or lower the golem HP?
Is your team drafting purges or building them (a la Diffusal Blade)?
 

Demoli

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Warlock probably needs a nerf. The dude can support early-mid game and then straight up go head to head with farmed carries late game. Its pretty ridiculous. Not sure how to fix him though. He definitely needs a reworking, his 3rd skill is very situational and his ult is broken. Maybe increase the cooldown of the ult or lower the golem HP?

Tell your carry/2 to buid a diffusal, and all of a sudden warlock is only an heal and fatal bonds
 

Radec

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Warlock is a great ally when he gets an Aghanims fast, and +Refresher could insta-kill an enemy team during a clash. His ultimate's true power is that ridiculous range of the stun and initial damage. Once he dropped it or twice, his teammates job is to finish them off.

But I can see why 90% of the time pros don't pick him. He's just like Dazzle when his golem is in CD. And that's a very long one.
 

Sibylus

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If you have a Chen, Enchantress, or someone with a Helm of the Dominator they're not stacking with, definitely suggest they look around for a Satyr Banisher. A 400 damage Purge to Aghanim's golems is a significant chunk of their health (59%/44%/36% before reduction), and it's only a 5 second cooldown.
 

BHK3

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I thought warlocks golems were still bugged, they do pure damage instead of magic damage right? I remember seeing a thread about it on dev.dota
 
Is a pipe rush useful against warlock? The golems seem to do a ton of AoE damage, I don't know how much is just fatal bonds (which I think is hp removal), or the flaming fists and immolation damage.
 

Arkanius

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Your skill build looks bad. Why max return? Double Edge should usually be maxed first, return last. Maxing return gives you about 30 extra damage when an enemy right clicks you, when you could have a 400 damage nuke instead.

Centaur can also jungle okay at the start of the game if the other lanes can handle themselves.

Ogre also didnt max fireblast first...

I was being super harassed in the lane.
I maximized Return in hopes of messing my attacker when he decided to harass me.

I'll leave one point there then next time and maximize Double Edge
 
iG global lineup is cute. And I always like Mag + Melee carry. Spectre is a particularly good one since the empower lets you farm/push a lot faster, even if you forego a Radiance. AM always good with that ofc too, but the other ones that get the most utility out of it are probably Void and PA, since you can skip Battlefury, freeing a slot (and a lot of early farm time, letting you fight earlier.)
 

Rokam

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Übermatik;68854326 said:
Rubick Spirit Breaker is funnier.

Had a game with friends where the Rubick on the other team stole charge and charged a teammate as he was charging someone else on the other side of the map. Funniest shit ever.
 

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Seeing all this Eastern team beatdowns going on by Western teams has me hopeful that this year's TI3 isn't going to be an East owns West scenario again.

Thinking at a minimum Liquid, Alliance, Navi and Dignatas can get in the top 8.
 

Sibylus

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With how much the prize pool has increased, I'm hoping that everyone that participates earns a little something. Kinda sucks to finish in a place without any prize whatsoever.
 

Archie

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With how much the prize pool has increased, I'm hoping that everyone that participates earns a little something. Kinda sucks to finish in a place without any prize whatsoever.

I feel the same way. I hope that the top 8 get their guaranteed payday and the 9th-16th teams get something for participating.
 

JustinBB7

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I feel the same way. I hope that the top 8 get their guaranteed payday and the 9th-16th teams get something for participating.

Well they already get a free flight, free 5 star hotel, free food, free parties.. they get enough I would say. Top 8 is already a pretty big list of teams that get prize pool money.
 
The prize pool is over 1.5 times larger than last year's, I think they can give everyone a pittance for showing up.

The could always make the prizepool something along the lines of

1. 1,250,000
2. 400,000
3. 250,000
4. 150,000
5-6. 100,000
7-8. 50,000
9-12. 25,000
13-16. 12,500

Just hope they throw something to the teams outside the top 8, more than enough money to give them a decent prize this year
 

eznark

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I'm kind of confused as to how the couriers work. If you buy the Beyond the Summit courier, does it level up or whatever when you watch matches on Twitch as well (if you've linked your steam account) or just if you have watched them in client?
 

Ikuu

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I'm kind of confused as to how the couriers work. If you buy the Beyond the Summit courier, does it level up or whatever when you watch matches on Twitch as well (if you've linked your steam account) or just if you have watched them in client?

Just client for now, they're going to add Twitch views later.
 

SamVimes

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Seeing all this Eastern team beatdowns going on by Western teams has me hopeful that this year's TI3 isn't going to be an East owns West scenario again.

Thinking at a minimum Liquid, Alliance, Navi and Dignatas can get in the top 8.

No way Liquid and Dignitas get top 8.
 
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