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Dota 2 Beta Thread V: Real Talk Strikes Back [Tutorials]

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SamVimes

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What kind of Item Build up do you suggest? Looking at my last few games, I have Rushed an Orchid then some item to help Tank up (Heart one game, AC Anther, BKB a Third), but it really doesn't work out that well. Our team wins, but I don't feel like I actually contribute much other then being a distraction.

I'm guessing Yasha followed by either Manta or BKB, then the other.
 

JustinBB7

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Ancient Seal maxed second, given that it increases the damage of all three of your nukes (on top of the silence).

I always do this too, works great. Such a fun hero to play.

Also, looks like Qpad bootcamping for realsies at Qpad offices helped so far. Or they got lucky.. who knows.
 

traveler

Not Wario
Also - Ancient Seal or Concussive Shot max second on Sky? Obviously you max Arcane Bolt first and have at least one early point in the other two (taking ult when possible), but I'm not sure about the other two. The slow doesn't scale on Concussive - latter points on both aren't worth as much as the initial one since after the first point the benefits are all linear. Leaning towards Seal in most cases.

I like Seal more as well. Granted, I haven't actually played him in a player game yet. Seal works out better in most bot matches though. And I think it makes more sense theory wise, given that amp dmg + silence duration scaling seems better than 80- 200 extra points of flat magic dmg.
 

Dina

Member
Good lord these silences on the BTS stream are awkward. Especially the ones where Lumi must unwrap his candy in front of his mike.
 

shira

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Succubus Set by Navi for Dendi
http://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/?id=143825434

Wow! Custom team gear ftw
Navi now playing some social media tricks with their QoP set. I don't think they can track all this for prizes but whatever. Looks like they way they spin it, it is already approved.
Our target is to get 10 000 likes. Should we succed with this aim, we will set up a stand-alone workshop studie and you will be able to actively participate in our development of Dota 2 by suggesting your own ideas, participating in our private dev-polls and benefit from our Steam Workshop raffles.

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Looks great in "motion"
http://youtu.be/oFW9byFxD90

After the item is added to the game and it receives 10 000 likes, we will give away the following items among everyone who supports the set and post his or hers comment in the Steam Workshop: 30 х Queen of Pain: Succubus Sets, 10 х Na`Vi Hoodies and 10x Natus Vincere Jersey 2013/2014 Season.

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Just like it! Get a chance to win free stuff
 

JustinBB7

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Jacob Toft-Andersen ‏@TheMaelk

Proud to say that I'll be on the analyst desk for The International alongside @BTSGoDz, @StatsmanBruno and @follow2GD. #TI3 #Dota2

So same as last year only Maelk replaces Nebula.. I can live with that!
 

Stahsky

A passionate embrace, a beautiful memory lingers.
This Luminous and EE duo is awkward as hell



Theres problem on their end too i think.

But yeah, snoreking pls disband .



Yeah, Lumi and EE need to kiss and make up or something.


also

Proud to say that I'll be on the analyst desk for The International alongside @BTSGoDz, @StatsmanBruno and @follow2GD. #TI3 #Dota2

From Maelk. Ohhhh man, that's gonna be fun.



Edit: Beaten back into the trench
 
Ancient Seal maxed second, given that it increases the damage of all three of your nukes (on top of the silence).

The skill build on this guide has some theorycraft. You get the early point in seal, then up to 3 for concussive, before going back to seal (to 4). In a vacuum possibly better for individual damage output earlier, but if you have anyone else on your team with a nuke, the extra levels of seal should be worth it (gets better the more magic nukes on your team). Did some quick math to confirm. And longer silence going to be more useful than a tad extra bit of damage (if that) vs. many heroes (blinkers, etc.)

why not get stats, he needs armor and hp

Skills too good. Even if Seal and Concussive don't have the best scaling past the first point, they're still better than the minimal increase you'd get from stats. It's not like Brewmaster or VS where he can't cast two spells without stats.
 

Guesong

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Dignitas why did you let Skywrath unbanned again

you'd think with Dendi crushing people with him, and with what happened in game 1, they'd ban him.

they rly want me to weep my unborn rares
 

Sibylus

Banned
The skill build on this guide has some theorycraft. You get the early point in seal, then up to 3 for concussive, before going back to seal (to 4). In a vacuum possibly better for individual damage output earlier, but if you have anyone else on your team with a nuke, the extra levels of seal should be worth it (gets better the more magic nukes on your team). Did some quick math to confirm.
Mm, what this theorycraft glosses over is that Concussive Shot isn't an utterly reliable nuke for your selected target, if an allied hero gets in between you and him it's over with this build. Arcane Bolt and Ancient Seal don't miss, they have to commit a silence or a stun to stop you. The generalist build is the more reliable way to go.
 
Anyone else having this problem?

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I haven't been able to browse my hero builds from the website or in-game for at least 4 days now. Didn't find anything in Steam support to help.
 
Are there stats on tower first bloods? Dota-Academy doesn't appear to have anything and I'd rather not cull the info myself. Not sure if Bruno's parser can even track that.

Trying to figure out for the compendium. Probably going to say no to less than 2 minutes as you'd need a free farming tri-lane with a Chen or something, and that's unlikely to happen in Western Dota.
 

Hung_real

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Trying to figure out for the compendium. Probably going to say no to less than 2 minutes as you'd need a free farming tri-lane with a Chen or something, and that's unlikely to happen in Western Dota.

I'm pretty sure its more common than you think, especially in the west.

Chen/Echan going bot with one or two heroes is pretty much a guarantee tower rush before 2 min

Or a tri lane with offlane Furion

Or a tri lane with Luna/Gyro

Or just a straight up trilane with Kotl
 

JustinBB7

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Patch out:

Added Solo Matchmaking option. This is an experimental feature that will match you with players who also queued without being in a party. This is the first step in a series aimed at improving the matchmaking system.

COMMUNITY
- Reduced the number of negative reports per week to 2 as part of our ongoing efforts to improve and tune the reporting and ban systems.

GAMEPLAY
- Elder Titan: Fixed Legacy Keys
- Drow Ranger: Fixed Frost Arrows slowing Spirit Bear for the full creep duration
- Tusk: Fixed Walrus Punch having 1 less second of slow than intended.
- Tusk: Fixed Armlet sometimes causing Walrus Punch to disappear after using Snowball.

PERFORMANCE
- Reduced memory usage on systems with 2GB of RAM or less
 

shira

Member
Added Solo Matchmaking option. This is an experimental feature that will match you with players who also queued without being in a party. This is the first step in a series aimed at improving the matchmaking system.
Thank you! If you in a team face another team ffs.
- Reduced the number of negative reports per week to 2 as part of our ongoing efforts to improve and tune the reporting and ban systems.
LOL
 

traveler

Not Wario
Doesn't that mean 4 locks will have to wait an eternity/never get matched?

Sure, 5 v 5 is fine and 3s and 2s could wait a bit but still find another set of teams, but why would anyone solo queue now and, thus, how will there ever be a random fifth for a four lock?
 

shira

Member
Doesn't that mean 4 locks will have to wait an eternity/never get matched?

Sure, 5 v 5 is fine and 3s and 2s could wait a bit but still find another set of teams, but why would anyone solo queue now and, thus, how will there ever be a random fifth for a four lock?

It would be nice if it gave you the option. "Would you like to play vs a 5 stack?"
$500 away from the bonus.

$200 now. It's prolly up idk
 

ksan

Member
- Elder Titan: Fixed Legacy Keys
So, now I understand why my friend couldn't get the spells right for the first 20 mins of the game.
I was fucking confused when I tested the hero as well.
 
Tusk buffs(fixes). Gonna be the hot shit. :lol

And the reports - eh. Two per week really? Maybe if they're more influential. Chat banned people in regular MM is crap though. Chat ban and/or low priority. In regular games it just makes your team worse. Had one earlier that was spamming the wheel - muted and reported him, as well as my team that game I think - probably won't ever talk in Dota 2 again.

It would be nice if it gave you the option. "Would you like to play vs a 5 stack be anally violated?"

Fixed.
 

Drkirby

Corporate Apologist
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The All Star Match will be how Valve kicks off the International, it is going to be before the Group Stage.
 

shira

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There are plenty of other better sets waiting to be approved.

"This is not a dream, but I am in your dreams... Come play with me!"

Christ on a fucking bike.

Sets aren't approved based on "betterness"
The previous QoP set had 900 likes. . .
 
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