That's a solid lategame build, but if you're going for tons of early fighting (i.e. 50 kills by 15mins) picking up a drum before/after lothar's is pretty nice, especially since you'll have ridic speed boosts.
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That's a solid lategame build, but if you're going for tons of early fighting (i.e. 50 kills by 15mins) picking up a drum before/after lothar's is pretty nice, especially since you'll have ridic speed boosts.
Dreams-Visions
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I don't even remember that game. Was I playing Medusa?
Also, if you wait until I hit level 6, it's just about impossible to gank Medusa anymore. I just ult and walk away. :3
Dreams-Visions
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I've watched Loki do this plenty of times, and in the majority of games someone comes very early and either wards it or fucks with him enough that it takes a long time to recover.
I'd link some of the replays of it happening but they've all expired.
Dreams-Visions
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why for you no come gank me?
(((Yea, that happens sometimes. I'd say maybe....eh...maybe 40% of the time. Part of the reason it doesn't happen as much now is because:
1.) You can only buy 1 set of obs now. Supports don't have an extra ward that will get instantly dewarded to put in the ancient camp like they may have when we could have 4 to start. It's usually several minutes before a support can realistically afford to prioritize 200g sent wards. By then, the damage is done.
2.) If I'm going to Ancient farm, I let my team know I'm going to last-pick her and don't pick her until about 10 seconds of game time have gone by. This ensures that supports have already spent their money and obs wards are going to their already-planned destinations. Don't give them time to plan and they won't be able to.
3.) Medusa is the 13th least played hero in the entire pool. Sometimes people forget to respond to her, especially given #1 and #2 above. Sometimes, people's only experience with Medusa is the typical useless Medusa Linken's building player and think they have time and will bother with her later. By the time they respond to my presence, I already have a butterfly and it's too late.
When necessary, I just buy sent wards and de-ward. My only starting item is a quelling blade (wards if nobody else bought them), so I have money to burn. I rarely lose much time. Usually if it's to the point where I'm getting regularly ganked, it's because the team has already lost map control inside of 7 or 8 minutes. Again, it's nice because I'm not spending time there to farm big items; I'm only there long enough to get those boots and dom up. If need be, I can transition easily to a lane. It works well for my level of pubbing, but others that pub higher in the bracket than I do may encounter more problems. I'll be able to comment on that more when I get there
Sigismundo
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Nope. Pandas got knocked out in the quals.
Kind of says everything about the strat.
Dreams-Visions
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Well yes, you don't want to be counter-warded if possible if you're going to ancient stack. That goes without saying whether you're doing with with Medusa, Tinker, Beastmaster, Windrunner or Invoker. If you're laning it doesn't matter when you pick. At best, it buys you a few minutes of free time. Free time is good time.
All this talk about Medusa is interesting because since last week I pick a set of sentries to stop the camps/ancient at the start of the game. Started doing this because really, the observer wards are too important to waste on camps. So it doesnt even matter if you wait till 0:10, if I notice the ancients are being abused, I'll ward it. Kind of feel good to have developed this (obvious thing that I should have been doing all this time) so I feel prepared to counter that.
Dreams-Visions
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It's a good habit. Especially if there is a BM or Tinker on the other team, or if someone is likely to buy or has bought a Dom Helm. I wouldn't do it too early unless you're sure the enemy has a team has someone who can do ancients early. Otherwise, it seems like an expense that could wait until later.
Sigismundo
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I have legitimately never seen an Ancient stacking Medusa in-game before.
I don't really want to try it out, either. It looks dull beyond belief.
I don't really want to try it out, either. It looks dull beyond belief.
I think I tried and you did in fact just ult when you had 50 HP left.
why for you no come gank me?
why for you no come gank me?
Yea, that happens sometimes. I'd say maybe....eh...maybe 40% of the time. Part of the reason it doesn't happen as much now is because:
1.) You can only buy 1 set of obs now. Supports don't have an extra ward that will get instantly dewarded to put in the ancient camp like they may have when we could have 4 to start. It's usually several minutes before a support can realistically afford to prioritize 200g sent wards. By then, the damage is done.
2.) If I'm going to Ancient farm, I let my team know I'm going to last-pick her and don't pick her until about 10 seconds of game time have gone by. This ensures that supports have already spent their money and obs wards are going to their already-planned destinations. Don't give them time to plan and they won't be able to.
3.) Medusa is the 13th least played hero in the entire pool. Sometimes people forget to respond to her, especially given #1 and #2 above. Sometimes, people's only experience with Medusa is the typical useless Medusa Linken's building player and think they have time and will bother with her later. By the time they respond to my presence, I already have a butterfly and it's too late.
When necessary, I just buy sent wards and de-ward. My only starting item is a quelling blade (wards if nobody else bought them), so I have money to burn. I rarely lose much time. Usually if it's to the point where I'm getting regularly ganked, it's because the team has already lost map control inside of 7 or 8 minutes. Again, it's nice because I'm not spending time there to farm big items; I'm only there long enough to get those boots and dom up. If need be, I can transition easily to a lane. It works well for my level of pubbing, but others that pub higher in the bracket than I do may encounter more problems. I'll be able to comment on that more when I get there
So you literally only buy a quelling blade? I'm assuming you get regen right? And do you ever build an Aquila or a Wand, or do you completely skip them and go straight Phase/Dom? Do you ever build a midas or is that not worth it?
Lionheart1337
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His stream is by far my favorite of all the ones I've seen.
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shira
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SteveWinwood
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Anuxinamoon
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Better for the cosmetics I see
SteveWinwood
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The tiny remake looks like axe.
shira
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Depends what that green stuff is on the out of focus - far left pic. Beard? Spit? Moss?
Anuxinamoon
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Old man drool?
Sigismundo
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Hopefully Ice Tiny gets a proper redo along with that.
shira
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new sf model plz
does tiny need a new model? he looks pretty solid as is, plus they'd have to change up that ice model
balladofwindfishes
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Patiently waiting for Veno
It was a good day when ES got his remake. More remakes for supports I play
balladofwindfishes
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I wonder if they'll remember to remake glacier tiny
Dark Souls was such a joke that I facetiously said beating it was like upping the difficulty to easy. EZ
Another day in low priority due to disconnects, no reason to keep playing at this point.
Veno is amazing already. I dont get why he needs updating.
I played on the Australian server yesterday.
i had an incredibly loud and obnoxious aussie bogan fella playing qop on my team
hate australia.
yo, 1v1 me in dark souls
i had an incredibly loud and obnoxious aussie bogan fella playing qop on my team
hate australia.
yo, 1v1 me in dark souls
Just kidding btw, the actual story is that after I smashed Moodyshuffle in Spartacus Legends, milkman smashed him in 1v1 meepo, and wes smashed him at Sonic Racing, he asked me, "yo bokr, yo man how do I get really good at games like u????" I replied, "Well first you should try upping the difficulty to easy."
it's anything you want it to be haly
Me either. I'm mainly just waiting for the remodel so I can get some items for him >:[
Anuxinamoon
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Oh man I get so many damm bogans when I play.
Thankfully there are some real nice people on, and quite a few ladies which is really nice.
SteveWinwood
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dark souls was easy
The euros were having their daily Civ 5 discussions in mumble. Anbokr chipped in about how much d he was giving A.I. Gandhi with his army and how little challenge there was in the game. After bumbling on for a bit about how good he was, he followed up with, "So I upped the difficulty to easy..." and we all stopped him there.
WARLORD TY VRY MUCH
shira
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lava tiny has to be otw.
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