Sgt.Pepper
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Wins mean shit. That's why some smurf accounts get spiked to "high bracket" with very few wins.
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Dota 2 |OT| To Hell and Back and Back to Hell
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Wins mean shit. That's why some smurf accounts get spiked to "high bracket" with very few wins.
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These were Very High bracket players...or at least that's what they advertised the lobby as.
dorkimoe
Member
if you like watching replays watch my game from yesterday
http://dotabuff.com/matches/238979945
this is why we dont need surrender. The other team called GG pretty early cuz we kept winning team fights and took 2 towers pretty quick. it was a stupid GG to call, but we eventually took mid rax, then we couldnt do anything else and they took 2 of our rax, and were working on our 3rd.. We eventually got a win out of it
http://dotabuff.com/matches/238979945
this is why we dont need surrender. The other team called GG pretty early cuz we kept winning team fights and took 2 towers pretty quick. it was a stupid GG to call, but we eventually took mid rax, then we couldnt do anything else and they took 2 of our rax, and were working on our 3rd.. We eventually got a win out of it
SteveWinwood
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Oh yeah there are tons of people who are trash and have somehow stumbled their way through hundreds of different games and think they're hot shit. Its nuts.
I was just saying that it takes you ten times longer in this game to even get a decent grasp at it than your normal game.
This ain't League, do whatever you want.
The metagame can allow for a lot of different lane setups, as matchmaking goes you can run practically anything and still win. The old and sturdy 2-1-2 setup is commonplace, probably because it's simple. Just try not to force carries to split farm on lanes and you should be fine.
dave is ok
aztek is ok
I just random every game. You rarely see a trilanes and suicide lanes in low bracket matchmaking.
It means you gifted 3 Dota 2 invites over the course of the beta.
electricpirate
Member
After swearing that I'd never play Moba's because of the community I just downloaded this...
What have I done?
What have I done?
poppedcollar69
Member
I wish they could make it a teensy bit easier to get stuff from your stash onto the bear. I sold my cuirass recipe by accident!
Rob Schnoddor
Banned
So, got that Bloodstone item too .... what use does it have? Haven't read anything on the last few pages (or missed it).
Don't even worry about the meta unless you're like god bracket or something. Public matchmaking is a game of counterpicking and outplaying.
I've seen all lane configurations in public games: aggressive trilanes, defensive trilanes, dual lane + jungler, dual mid, standard dual lanes + solo mid, tri solos with one jungler and one ancients farmer... Really doesn't matter.
Okay, 5 ints it is....
You forgot my favorite. Three solos and 2 roamers.
Saw people win with it.
Dinosaur Tamer
Member
I know you are trying to be sarcastic, but that is completely viable.
Oh I know you can, but god help you if you don't dominate early.
balladofwindfishes
Member
with the right team this is completely doable.
dave is ok
aztek is ok
You could make that work.
Mister Zimbu
Member
Just run single draft and wonder why every damn time the enemy team drafts a perfect team comp and your team always picks 5 melee carries.
dave is ok
aztek is ok
OD is an int carry.
Gully State
Member
OD and Silencer are Int carries.
I always hated silencer. Loved Obsidian Destroyer though.
Procarbine
Forever Platinum
Wait can we talk about how the game is stagnating and not growing now too? And how the "horrible release" won't affect numbers because everyone who wants to play already is? Let's do that next.
ScepticMatt
Member
MacOS/Linux Test versions will be released today:
Head of Vengarl
Banned
1.6 never died, son.
Smite has a surrender option so I have some experience with this. You can only surrender after 10 mins and 3 out of 5 players have to agree to it. They don't show who voted yes/no. Honestly, I don't mind it. There are certainly players who mash the surrender button once they start losing, but it almost always gets voted away because most people want to keep playing. If you're queuing with a friend you can make sure that a surrender never happens. That said, it has been a very welcome option in games where the other team is just stomping us from the get-go, and we are clearly never going to come back.
In Dota I would make it later than 10 mins more like 20-30 mins. But yes, there have been games where the other team is fountain camping us and I would have loved a surrender option.
dorkimoe
Member
Jokkir nooooooo, why'd you bring up the concede ;A;. If they aren't pushing just go smoke away from your base and farm some neutrals! They won't be able to fountain camp you guys if you aren't even there
I bet that felt incredibly satisfying, winning in that fashion.
Related plug: we were down two rax, hero kills, 20k gold/exp and went for an all in push - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HawtFgCXEw (video is from old beta)
finalboss2
Member
I'd do nyx mid, veno/venge/gyro safe, bh short
Shorty11857
Member
Fnatic really seem to be back on form, hoping they continue it to TI3
Sgt.Pepper
Banned
Jokkir nooooooo, why'd you bring up the concede ;A;. If they aren't pushing just go smoke away from your base and farm some neutrals! They won't be able to fountain camp you guys if you aren't even there
I bet that felt incredibly satisfying, winning in that fashion.
Related plug: we were down two rax, hero kills, 20k gold/exp and went for an all in push - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HawtFgCXEw (video is from old beta)
that ui
those item icons
this brood face
christ we've come a long way
Don't need op heroes to be viable.
dave is ok
aztek is ok
The hardest thing for me to learn coming from League of Legends were that lanes in Dota 2 are all about farm priority instead of roles.
PillowKnight
Member
If I had a post for every time a game lasted 15 more minutes than it should we'd be in OT 8. I wish you guys would feel my pain, I really do.
Precisely. Three solos, two carries and one punishing semi-carry in the lategame.
Gully State
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Rather than a surrender button, I wish Valve would have a tutorial or something on how to respond when you're down. Merlini addressed this topic about a month ago and the basic gist of it according to him was that as a team, you need re-establish territory you can safely farm in on the map. Too many times I've been a part of games in which instead of trying to at least take back our own jungle (through at the very least warding around entrances), the team just continually retreats and turtles near a tower as a group which just exacerbates the situation and makes it a painfully slow defeat.
Sgt.Pepper
Banned
Man, I had forgotten how horrible those icons were.
CarbonatedFalcon
Member
Hmm. I don't think my laptop that I used to play Dota on in bootcamp officially supports those minimum specs. Downloading test client now anyway and we'll see.
How does a team prevent their creeps from getting to the ancient?
Honestly, if a team has given up, it's far safer and smarter for the enemy to get mega creeps. The game is surprisingly easy to turn around with a single team fight in the late game and, generally speaking, most teams will still put up a defence even if they've abandoned all hope.
Plus, if they get megas then they can't fountain dive you for very long since the creep wave will destroy the ancient on their own in even less time than if they didn't.
4 carries and one disgruntled support. Then everyone argues who goes mid.
Depends on what the enemy lanes are. Puck can work in the solo hard as can Prophet. Windrunner can be played as a hard support in a tri-lane. Shadow Demon could always be a roaming ganker. Lots of flexibility with this to be honest. I like it; it's a really elegant pick.
(Barring the enemy doesn't grab Hylian's Nyx.)
Definitely something to be feared, but that Int lineup in particular has a lot of ways to mitigate or avoid Nyx.
Did someone say Int?
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Also this, the heroes are general enough that you can run it in some unconventional ways too.
Sgt.Pepper
Banned
If it is anything like the TF2 mac client, expect some really long ass loading times when getting into a game.
Just because you're bad and don't know how to counterpick doesn't make Tree op.
I'm the original tree picker so I can say this.
Procarbine
Forever Platinum
Did someone say BLOODSEEKER?
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