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[Haunted]

Rather than a surrender button, I wish Valve would have a tutorial or something on how to respond when you're down. Merlini addressed this topic about a month ago and the basic gist of it according to him was that as a team, you need re-establish territory you can safely farm in on the map. Too many times I've been a part of games in which instead of trying to at least take back our own jungle (through at the very least warding around entrances), the team just continually retreats and turtles near a tower as a group which just exacerbates the situation and makes it a painfully slow defeat.

That would be awesome.

If people were this coordinated and calm in the skill bracket where this stuff occurs, there wouldn't be a need for a surrender button. I just want to slap the guy deciding that going afk in the fountain after berating your teammates is the proper response to being behind in a game. >_>

 

[Sgt.Pepper]

Did someone say BLOODSEEKER?

Speaking of BS...What exactly his Bloodrage purges?

 

[1.09]

Just because you're bad and don't know how to counterpick doesn't make Tree op.

I'm the original tree picker so I can say this.

Aisu says u stole tree from him

 

[Dahbomb]

Speaking of BS...What exactly his Bloodrage purges?

One of the biggest buffs there is... Living Armor.

 

[dave is ok]

Pick blue guy. Blue guy always wins

 

[PillowKnight]

That would be awesome.

If people were this coordinated and calm in the skill bracket where this stuff occurs, there wouldn't be a need for a surrender button. I just want to slap the guy deciding that going afk in the fountain after berating your teammates is the proper response to being behind in a game. >_>

Well, the reality isn't so pretty. Supports who are behind cant counter ward effectively, so even if you do get to ward the enemy team's supports who are rich from being ahead will just counter ward the shit out of you. That is if they don't already have a gem. Merlini's advice is great, but unrealistic when you're talking about pub play.

 

[Procarbine]

Speaking of BS...What exactly his Bloodrage purges?

Purges everything diffusal can with the exception of repel from omni.

 

[Artanisix]

Well, the reality isn't so pretty. Supports who are behind cant counter ward effectively, so even if you do get to ward the enemy team's supports who are rich from being ahead will just counter ward the shit out of you. That is if they don't already have a gem. Merlini's advice is great, but unrealistic when you're talking about pub play.

I'll take your word for it because you're a masochist and only solo queue.

 

[1.09]

Well, the reality isn't so pretty. Supports who are behind cant counter ward effectively, so even if you do get to ward the enemy team's supports who are rich from being ahead will just counter ward the shit out of you. That is if they don't already have a gem. Merlini's advice is great, but unrealistic when you're talking about pub play.

Pillow the guys that watched u play panda asked if u have a youtube channel. What should I tell them?

 

[Sgt.Pepper]

Purges everything diffusal can with the exception of repel from omni.

But I tried it on the warlock golems, and they just got more attack power lol

 

[TommyT]

But I tried it on the warlock golems, and they just got more attack power lol

Because they're not a buff/debuff. Bloodrage purges, but it isn't the same as Purge.

 

[Arkanius]

DOTA2 Test Client is available for Linux and Mac
You can't really say how excited I am

That and the prospect of maybe getting Abaddon today

 

[Sibylus]

Another 5 Int/3 solos/2 carry lineup, and without reusing any of the heroes in my prior example.

 

[Procarbine]

But I tried it on the warlock golems, and they just got more attack power lol

Well yeah like Tommy said, it can purge everything, but it isn't a "Purge" that deals damage to summoned units.

 

[PillowKnight]

This is why i'm glad there's no concede.

 

[JumpJeff84]

Never played a MOBA before, but I think I may download this and give it a try...

 

[Gowans]

How will Dota 2 be reviewed thread here

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=69427436#post69427436

 

[dk_]

Did someone say Int?

NYXXXXXXNYXNYXNYXNYX

NYXNYX?

 

[Lombax]

 

[JumpJeff84]

Is this a good 'first MOBA' to try? Is it the 'flashiest', for lack of a better term? And can you practice against bots before jumping into the online fray?

 

[Mister Zimbu]

This is why i'm glad there's no concede.

Because you have to play a man down for 40 more minutes?

 

[Interfectum]

Is this a good 'first MOBA' to try? Is it the 'flashiest', for lack of a better term? And can you practice against bots before jumping into the online fray?

1. Yes.

2. Yes.

3. Yes.

 

[Interfectum]

Because you have to play a man down for 40 more minutes?

Eh? "The game is now safe to leave."

You can leave without punishment.

 

[Sibylus]

You haven't seen flashy until you hit Thundergod's Wrath with the bass turned up. Twice.

 

[StanTowers]

Another 5 Int/3 solos/2 carry lineup, and without reusing any of the heroes in my prior example.

qop mid, enigma jungle, silencer and jak safe and tinker offlane/ancients?

 

[Artanisix]

You haven't seen flashy until you hit Thundergod's Wrath with the bass turned up. Twice.

Sven's stormhammer is the spell that shakes my whole room.

 

[Mister Zimbu]

Eh? "The game is now safe to leave."

You can leave without punishment.

But then you don't get your delicious, delicious battle points

 

[dave is ok]

Is this a good 'first MOBA' to try? Is it the 'flashiest', for lack of a better term? And can you practice against bots before jumping into the online fray?

No. League of Legends is less punishing, however Dota 2 has the better tutorials.

It looks better than LoL, but it's palette isn't as bright which bugs some people for some reason.

And both games have bots.

 

[Sibylus]

qop mid, enigma jungle, silencer and jak safe and tinker offlane/ancients?

Almost, though I'd put Tinker mid because he can't leg it out of trouble as easily as QoP can.

 

[Einbroch]

Is this a good 'first MOBA' to try? Is it the 'flashiest', for lack of a better term? And can you practice against bots before jumping into the online fray?

I'd personally try League before Dota 2, just to get your toes wet. League has a god awful "tutorial", but the game itself is easier to get into it. Once you get comfortable with the mechanics and how it works, try Dota 2, and go from there.

 

[PillowKnight]

Because you have to play a man down for 40 more minutes?

Because people have come to understand that the way you end a game is by hitting the "leave game" button. That game wasn't anywhere near over(though we were very likely to lose), because of the way the system is currently set up individuals get to decide when the game ends with no team discussion involved.

 

[Ultrabum]

But then you don't get your delicious, delicious battle points

Concede should cost battle points, there it's an option and no one would use it. Win win.

( I always stay after leavers to just fuck around and do fun things / strange item builds, I rather enjoy it)

 

[BeesEight]

qop mid, enigma jungle, silencer and jak safe and tinker offlane/ancients?

I was thinking Tinker mid, QoP safe, aggressive trilane/jungle the Silencer, Jak and Enigma.

 

[Sibylus]

I was thinking Tinker mid, QoP safe, aggressive trilane/jungle the Silencer, Jak and Enigma.

I like this setup too, aggressive jungling strats can be quite fun and effective.

 

[Glix]

How many hundreds of hours in are you?

A little past 500 matches. Well over 1000 hours, but sometimes i just leave the client open.

Sometimes I'm pretty good, but mostly I'm pretty bad.

 

[Emerson]

A little past 500 matches. Well over 1000 hours, but sometimes i just leave the client open.

Sometimes I'm pretty good, but mostly I'm pretty bad.

Why have you played 500 matches but not tried all the heroes at least once? I think that'd be the biggest single thing you could do to improve your game.

 

[StanTowers]

I was thinking Tinker mid, QoP safe, aggressive trilane/jungle the Silencer, Jak and Enigma.

Ok that is better.

 

[Randdalf]

Is this a good 'first MOBA' to try? Is it the 'flashiest', for lack of a better term? And can you practice against bots before jumping into the online fray?

Yes. I have a friend who had never played a proper PC game before (or at least for a long time), and he managed to get going in a few days. I think the real difference between LoL and Dota is how deep you can go, on the surface they share many similarities.

 

[BeesEight]

I like this setup too, aggressive jungling strats can be quite fun and effective.

At first I wasn't as big of a fan of it. But then I thought the Enigma can get free denies with Eidolons on the carry and the Silencer and Jak can gank if the trilane didn't work at all. Plus, once Tinker gets his boots he'll be able to open up a lane for the supports to farm up the potentially lost xp and gold.

And if Tinker can TP on the eidolons, that would be pretty scary too. That, and lots of teams don't expect an aggressive jungle which could work in your advantage.

Do you CM Bo? You've got some good team comps.

 

[Glix]

Why have you played 500 matches but not tried all the heroes at least once? I think that'd be the biggest single thing you could do to improve your game.

Because when I don't play support the team ends up with no warding and it is the fucking worst.

When I'm in a five stack I have more leeway to experiment with different guys, and I can Doom and Luna... but I don't know a lot of the other carries.

 

[Emerson]

Because when I don't play support the team ends up with no warding and it is the fucking worst.

When I'm in a five stack I have more leeway to experiment with different guys, and I can Doom and Luna... but I don't know a lot of the other carries.

I understand that frustration, but like you said, you don't know a lot of the other carries. It's very difficult to fight against a hero when you don't fully understand their capabilities. Playing all of them, even if those matches aren't all great, is IMO a crucial thing to do.

 

[rainking187]

So I have this in my library now, will it stay there? I always thought that F2P games only stayed in your library as long as you had them installed. If I install it then uninstall it later will it be removed from my library?

 

[Artanisix]

ICEFROG IN ADMINT CONTROL PANEL GUYS IM SCARED

 

[Sibylus]

At first I wasn't as big of a fan of it. But then I thought the Enigma can get free denies with Eidolons on the carry and the Silencer and Jak can gank if the trilane didn't work at all. Plus, once Tinker gets his boots he'll be able to open up a lane for the supports to farm up the potentially lost xp and gold.

And if Tinker can TP on the eidolons, that would be pretty scary too. That, and lots of teams don't expect an aggressive jungle which could work in your advantage.

Do you CM Bo? You've got some good team comps.

Enigma would also basically steal gold and xp from the pull camp, if not outright thwart attempts at pulling altogether.

Re CM: I do enjoy playing it, but I don't really hop into a CM queue unless it's once in a blue moon. I do however watch a lot of competitive drafting, so I absorb a great deal by osmosis.

 

[Arkanius]

So I have this in my library now, will it stay there? I always thought that F2P games only stayed in your library as long as you had them installed. If I install it then uninstall it later will it be removed from my library?

It will never be removed from your library
Because you will never stop playing it

 

[TUSR]

I'm not familiar with Dota 2 test, but does it play with the normal client?

 

[Etnos]

DOTA2 Test Client is available for Linux and Mac
You can't really say how excited I am

That and the prospect of maybe getting Abaddon today

I just finished downloading the test client for OSX, It won't run: Missing executable...

Am I doing something wrong here? or wtf?

 

[Anteo]

But I tried it on the warlock golems, and they just got more attack power lol

Diffusal blade has a second side effect that deals huge damage to summoned units. That effect is not present on bloodrage.

 

[Caffeine]

I wrote a guide a few months ago for newbies. Not the greatest thing ever written, but I think it touches on a lot of basics for new players and problems they might have. I tried to answer major issues I had when I was new.

What an anticlimatic launch. No huge banner or major update. Hell, reading the launch FAQ, it sounds like you are added to a queue to be accepted into the game. It really sounds no different from early beta. So uh, hooray?

Also we will be moved to Community in 30 days, so soak it in now.

thanks for the guide i will take a look at it on my way home


this thread has convinced me to start playing the game once i get home from school.

 

[Artanisix]

tHiS iS wHy CoNcEdE sHoUlD bE iN tHe GaMe