Like any other moba, so expect to be trashed unless you play with gaf
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Dota 2 |OT| To Hell and Back and Back to Hell
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Like any other moba, so expect to be trashed unless you play with gaf
I took some but they haven't uploaded apparantly, any ideas?
the community at large is pretty awful at lower levels
my advice is stick to channels/communities that are friendly to newcomers, such as GAF, or play with friends.
in general, try to just suck it up and try to have some thick skin in regards to some of the abuse you encounter. eventually, as you improve and get matched up with better players, the incidence of shitheads will decrease by a lot.
nintendoman58
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So it's basically a more respectable version of League of Legends. Yeah, I'll stick with the GAF community in this for a while.
also someone's advice earlier in this thread was that if someone is being a shithead just mute them right away and focus on your own game
you're not going to run into very many good players for a while, and if they're just flaming then they aren't helping regardless or their skill
you're not going to run into very many good players for a while, and if they're just flaming then they aren't helping regardless or their skill
ScottSullivan
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I don't get it. Whats the combo with britstle and abadon thats deadly. Sorry I didn't play dota 1
Bristleback passively takes less damage and gets off extra quill sprays, as well as stacking for his ult. Then Abaddon throws that shield on him, and he's taking NO damage AND having an extra thing explode in your face.
Didn't really play Dota 1 either but I'm gonna guess that it's because they're hard to kill and/or when you attack them they give damage back. If you hit BB from behind he hits you with his quills and Abby has his aphotic shield which explodes. Or it could just be something else.
EDIT: Huzzah I was right! Could make a really lame themed team with spectre and centaur as well, just reflect pain city.
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shira
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Purple on violet??? There is not much to work with there. And he's a fucking ninja. Why would he wear purple. Zzz
I'm kinda disappointed there's so few rival and ally lines aimed at Abaddon. I think he has the fewest between all heroes so far. Chaos Knight has a generic ally line for Centaur Warrunner and Abaddon, while Nyx Assassin has a very specific rival line for him.
Ask valve for that. The point is it doesn't suit the look valve gave AM.
Schweinehund
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I think this luna buying quelling blade just invalidated all of haly's arguments about a good mm system.
wtf is this shit.
wtf is this shit.
There is nothing ninja about AM.
shira
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Oh Gaben,
Changeth thy doto color schemes.
Amen.
He wears split toe footwear. And the escaping in a puff of uh blink dust.
How? Unless they changed it, the Shield and the Ult are not dispeled on Euls, and 2.5 disable is low enough to matter.
I would like to know why? I think restricting color is limiting a lot of potential as I said earlier.
Dinosaur Tamer
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Because cosmetics are not supposed to interfere with gameplay. You are supposed to be able to identify a hero with cosmetics without having to take a second look and silhouettes and color schemes are the most important factors here. Which is why Valve specifically asks item creators to keep them intact.
Maybe its just me, everytime I go back to LoL after a month or 2 I never have any issues, I see the character I'm good. If a player has seen it he should be good, Are we not giving players enough credit? I would also understand this perspective for newer player though who don't know the whole hero pool.
His Aphotic Shield is a great tool. A teammate is stunned? Just cast Aphotic Shield and dispel the stun.
shira
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Also 8% of males are colorblind.
And what exactly are you confusing the guy with twin blades as? Are players being constatly confused which guy is which? Teemo in LOL has what 6 radically different outfits. Not saying we need to go there, but I don't think players will be confused if AM is white for more than 5s.
Its also awful at the highest level. The people I encounter on a daily basis...
Schweinehund
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I'm more surprised nobody has made a blindfold and pony tail for am yet.
Pretty much what I'm trying to say we don't need to go those levels, but color makes so much more room for creativity.
You mean Phantom Lancer?
Damn that set that also firmly keeps her silhouette as well as skin color (which is clearly visible) is exactly the same thing. Also saying another game does it therefore we should do it doesnt make it a good decision. The absurd model changing skins of LoL and HoN are part of the reason people dont want overly radical changes in the cosmetics.
dave is ok
aztek is ok
People can get used to either system and will accept it as the "right way to go" given a long enough time.
The point is moot.
I myself am not a fan of radically changing color schemes, I like for heroes to stay true to their base design.
That said, if Valve released Saber for Jugg officially I would buy that day one.
The point is moot.
I myself am not a fan of radically changing color schemes, I like for heroes to stay true to their base design.
That said, if Valve released Saber for Jugg officially I would buy that day one.
Procarbine
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So, 92% of new, male players could be confused by a set with non-standard colors. Adding in new female players and the numbers get worse.
Valve's track record clearly indicates that they want to make this very daunting and difficult game as accessible as possible. No stats, a system that doesn't give smurfs more than one or two games in actual low tier, and communication bans for disruptive players are all in the same vein. Colors should and most likely will remain consistent for a long period of time.
Valve's track record clearly indicates that they want to make this very daunting and difficult game as accessible as possible. No stats, a system that doesn't give smurfs more than one or two games in actual low tier, and communication bans for disruptive players are all in the same vein. Colors should and most likely will remain consistent for a long period of time.
shira
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Huh? Antimage's skin color is still the same in the Navi set.
I just used LoL as an example of people not getting confused if a "different" model of charachter approached you. You woulnd't be like WTF is that shit? You would almost instantly be able to recognize AM since it's also on the player listing.
Eventually Valve will have to cave. You can only make so many purple on purple antimage outfits.
SteveWinwood
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You don't know what color blindness is do you?
Only for a long time player, yes. But it can get very confusing for a new player. HoN is a particularly good example of this.
If I opened a HoN stream right now, chances are I wouldn't be able to tell what's what until I've had a very close look at all the heroes and what they were doing.
Dinosaur Tamer
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That Naga set is where I would personally draw the line. Her silhouette is still largely intact and the color scheme is used for at least 50% of the model in total. That's not the case with that awful AM set. It's not even close.
It's not about knowing the hero and cosmetic combination and recognizing it. It's about identifying a hero at a glance. If a unit steps out of the fog of war at the edge of your screen for half a second before vanishing again you need to be able to tell with which unit you are dealing with. It's part of the gameplay of RTS and A-RTS. If cosmetics interfere with this, they are no longer purely cosmetic items. Both HoN and LoL failed miserably in this regard and are horrible examples.
You cannot truly think it is okay for a player not to know what hero he is looking at for 5 seconds. That is beyond stupid. (Edit: The concept that is, not you.)
I can't believe this has 5 stars. Why community, WHY.
300 Heroes has Saber =P
But yeah the white on the AM set is way too radically different from his base design. Just imagine it in-game...
SteveWinwood
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It's still good don't worry.
Yes its the same. Its just not exposed at all so its use as an identifying color is moot. Unlike for the Naga or Jugg sets everyone keeps trying to used as counterarguments.
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl...67gUZnoCqS7ygGppoCwBQ&ved=0CFEQ9QEwBQ&dur=402
This is dota 1 phantom assassin. Her skill Blur used to literally make her more transparent the more you leveled it up.
This is dota 1 phantom assassin. Her skill Blur used to literally make her more transparent the more you leveled it up.
shira
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Volvo should approve it in a $100 pack, then Alpine Ursa it to calm the purists.
Win-win.
Thank god they changed that, it added nothing to the gameplay and it only served to frustrate.
When i look at that AM set, my first though would be if it was AM's brother or something, completely different colur scheme combined witht eh slightly altered sillouete makes it look like a different carachter altogether.
Dinosaur Tamer
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Honestly, Alpine Ursa did not break half as many Dota 2 Workshop guidelines and rules as this Ronin set does.
I don't get why Na'vi keeps backing these sets that have little to no chance of getting into the game.
I don't get why Na'vi keeps backing these sets that have little to no chance of getting into the game.
it's entirely useless if you're using it on anyone/anything that has enemy creeps around it
SteveWinwood
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that fucking music lol
It's been nerfed? I'm not sure if it was before or after the update when I last went against a Treant but he messed up half of my ganks -,-
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