what 1.09 lacks in dota skill he makes up for in Naval Battle and Dota IMBA wherewithall
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what 1.09 lacks in dota skill he makes up for in Naval Battle and Dota IMBA wherewithall
this is now a 1.09 circle jerk page
Procarbine
Forever Platinum
Like I said I doubt this will be the case. Maybe the HoN f2p model where all the heroes are unlocked and new heroes are locked for the first month unless you pay.
misses bull
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Gentle Rodriguez
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By all means continue
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Deleted member 77995
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I watched 1.09's stream for a bit. He answered my questions promptly and politely. Then he called his teammates a bunch of retards. I thoroughly enjoyed it.
NormalFish
Banned
how is it possible that so much wrong be concentrated in one person
I can't imagine how they'll convince business-side that Heroes of the Storm can sell heroes piecemeal but not Overwatch. The Overwatch characters are more expensive to develop too, just at first glance.
I get what you're saying but it seems so farfetched given what we know of their business history...
misses bull
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Procarbine
Forever Platinum
It's not that it wouldn't work, it's that it would ruin the game. Being able to switch throughout the entire cast on the fly is what makes the game work.
shira
Member
Blizzard got DonDon from Dota 2 so maybe there is a more pronounced hat market.
NotoriousPUG
Member
Look at how wacky and crazy we are. We put this face on pudge and this one on lifestealer, it's so wacky and craaaaazzyy
What if they launch with the base cast free but then grind/paywall the rest?
You sound upset
Procarbine
Forever Platinum
Still no, being able to fully respond to the enemy team's comp is one of the defining aspects of the game, it would be akin to locking items in dota. I really don't think long term character locking is what will happen.
shira
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NormalFish
Banned
Yeah, I'm also totally opposed to locking characters behind a paywall, regardless of if the base game costs anything.
so brave
Overwatch functionally fails if heroes are locked behind a paywall. I would say every hero in the beta has two to three heroes that check them. You start locking heroes away and your ability to win a matchmaking game is severely hampered.
I.e. if an enemy has Bastion and you don't have checks for him (Reinhardt, Reaper, Tracer) then you're just fufucked assuming relatively equal skill levels.
I.e. if an enemy has Bastion and you don't have checks for him (Reinhardt, Reaper, Tracer) then you're just fufucked assuming relatively equal skill levels.
NormalFish
Banned
I agree with you, but this is also the case in league. Even with 10 heroes rotating constantly and a bunch of heroes being very cheap (2-3 matches worth of currency to unlock), you're basically fucked if you don't have a hero that can cope with the opposition. Not to mention Runes take tons of currency to buy, so spending currency on heroes means that for a while, even if you've got the right heroes, you're still gimped.
And yet the game is massively successful. Masochists.
Procarbine
Forever Platinum
We were talking about this the other day in mumble, and I think if LoL were to have launched today with the same model the game would fail.
NormalFish
Banned
I think you're right. But only because League had a weird effect of legitimizing ARTS/MOBA in the general populace's mind. If Dota and other attempts at the genre were just as popular today, and F2P as a whole were similar to how it is today, League would be totally lost in obscurity without a doubt.
Would you describe it as "too big to fail"?
NotoriousPUG
Member
No, I sound like the Crazy Taxi announcer.
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Deleted member 77995
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Found what I thought was a unicorn, someone actually talking about mmr hell.
I will investigate and report.
I will investigate and report.
Procarbine
Forever Platinum
Too many people playing with too much time invested. Because it's so big it just sucks in new players for free.
Thats one thing I don't know about, it feels like it isn't bringing in players like it used to. But it could just be me getting old. LoL's player base always seemed to be skew younger and be made up of the High School/College crowd in the US.
SecretMoblin
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league feels younger, fresher, more accessible, and tends to have fewer of the "I've been playing this for 10 years so blah blah blah" stuff you get from the dota community
it's quicker, it's flashier, you get the candy rush of new cosmetics and new champions all the damn time, and riot is very good about exploiting that
it being number one has a lot to do with its draw, but it's staying number one because riot has figured out a system that just plain works, whiny League hater complaints notwithstanding
it's a shit game, but so is dota. it's a shit genre.
it's quicker, it's flashier, you get the candy rush of new cosmetics and new champions all the damn time, and riot is very good about exploiting that
it being number one has a lot to do with its draw, but it's staying number one because riot has figured out a system that just plain works, whiny League hater complaints notwithstanding
it's a shit game, but so is dota. it's a shit genre.
Alch isn't even at 50% winrate yet. Same with Windranger. People just get annoyed at popular picks. I'm still a bit amazed at how much Alch's pub winrate went up with just a new meta build, for a solid week after 6.85 Alch was still at 45% winrate, then a few pros showed off the Mid Alch build and his winrate shot up.
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