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Dota 2 |OT12| A Safe Place For Your Sociopathic Behaviors.
- Thread starter Dreams-Visions
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Man I love MMOs, or at least I love the idea of playing MMOs with a solid group of people. But it's impossible to keep a solid group of people for as long as I want to keep them.
I tried installing Wildstar, but it got stuck on downloading some file, kept erroring out, so I gave up. ):
Totally agree that MMOs pretty much consistently fail to meet up to their potential, though. So many interesting things to be done, but everyone just tries to be another wow. I can have fun with that, but I want something new and exciting...
I don't see an issue with teams/friends talking to one another about how to beat other teams, or their strategies. For me, the issue is that it appears to be directed only at DC. Ritsu is a character and i don't think anything he said about sajedene surprises anybody that he would say it.
ever tried tabletop rpgs?
Yeah I love those when I can... get a solid group of people! Hah.
Played a few here and there over the internet, using roll20, etc., but it's just not the same. Hard to be invested.
Talk about starting up a Star Wars game at work sometime soon. That should be fun. Maybe.
NormalFish
Banned
Wild Star is okay. PvP is pretty bunk, imo. Leveling is actually super well done, and the art and music is fantastic. Can't speak to end game.
Honestly though I think it's too theme park-y for me. I couldn't get in to the "do quests to level up to get gear to do real content" swing of things.
misses bull
Banned
The only mmo I have been interested in like the past 5 years is the sercet world, and that's only for the writing and quests. The combat makes me never want to touch it.
I've grown to hate MMOs honestly. Mostly because the only real way to balance them to be fair is to make everything a boring grind. Runescape was NOTORIOUS for this. The cycle often went like this:
Grind for two weeks to gather whatever you need to do something cool
Do said cool thing
You're out or nearly out of stuff so you have to grind again.
Repeat.
The game implemented random events and things like that to prevent botting, but then at the same time it also seemed to be a refusal of Jagex to answer the issue with grinding the game had.
The only MMO-ish game I can stand anymore is Elite: Dangerous. And yeah, this one has grinding too, something Frontier seems to be working in a direction to rectify, but at the same time, I find the activities involved in the grinding much more fun than what you see in other MMOs. I really like realistic simulations, be they space, Arma, DCS, or whatever. That is something I particularly enjoy about Elite. On top of that the atmosphere of the game is just nice, where even doing trading is relaxing, especially in my huge Anaconda (biggest ship in the game right now). Combat is satisfying as all hell, and combat grinding events are fun too.
Grind for two weeks to gather whatever you need to do something cool
Do said cool thing
You're out or nearly out of stuff so you have to grind again.
Repeat.
The game implemented random events and things like that to prevent botting, but then at the same time it also seemed to be a refusal of Jagex to answer the issue with grinding the game had.
The only MMO-ish game I can stand anymore is Elite: Dangerous. And yeah, this one has grinding too, something Frontier seems to be working in a direction to rectify, but at the same time, I find the activities involved in the grinding much more fun than what you see in other MMOs. I really like realistic simulations, be they space, Arma, DCS, or whatever. That is something I particularly enjoy about Elite. On top of that the atmosphere of the game is just nice, where even doing trading is relaxing, especially in my huge Anaconda (biggest ship in the game right now). Combat is satisfying as all hell, and combat grinding events are fun too.
//pats
NormalFish
Banned
GW2 really isn't that grindy. It kinda feels that way but because all the content is unlocked to a new player pretty much right out of the gate, and everything gives XP, you can pretty much play it and do whatever. I still massively prefer its predecessor, though.
I cry sometimes thinking about how I missed out on DAoC
I'm still looking for that perfect MMO, which would combine Korean approaches to combat systems with western quest/world design.
The greatest combat system I've ever seen is still unequivocally Dragon's Nest. Just the perfect blend of fighting-game-esque design and ease of use. Unfortunately the rest of a game is a stupidly long grind.
I want to try Blade and Soul as well but I already know that's a grindfest.
Maybe Dragon's Dogma Online will be what I'm seeking.
The greatest combat system I've ever seen is still unequivocally Dragon's Nest. Just the perfect blend of fighting-game-esque design and ease of use. Unfortunately the rest of a game is a stupidly long grind.
I want to try Blade and Soul as well but I already know that's a grindfest.
Maybe Dragon's Dogma Online will be what I'm seeking.
NinjaBoyLao
Member
Everyone should play Wildstar at least once in their life just for the lore alone. If you can't stand MMO, treat it like a single player RPG(with occasional dungeon runs while leveling) up until the big Story revelations that opens up once once you hit level 50, it is good.
I can't see myself playing that game for a long time though since the end game dungeons are hard to play when you are playing from SEA(that Bullet Hell Dungeon Boss Wtf). Still, I shelled out $40 dollars because I think the fun I had with the lore and leveling is worth it.
I can't see myself playing that game for a long time though since the end game dungeons are hard to play when you are playing from SEA(that Bullet Hell Dungeon Boss Wtf). Still, I shelled out $40 dollars because I think the fun I had with the lore and leveling is worth it.
shira
Member
who is that
misses bull
Banned
Is that movie's bad guy really a guy in a skeleton costume
NormalFish
Banned
"bullet hell" pretty much encapsulates all my issues with wildstar combat.
there's like 15 bad guys in spectre
and they all don't matter because they're forgettable.
shira
Member
I think that's Craig's last one and he didn't want to do it.
Just curious, does anyone watches bananaslamjamma's stream?? If so, what are your thoughts on this player?
I only know about him cause he created one of the best huskar's guide i seen so far. Since huskar is one of my absolute favorite hero to play.
I think I read awhile back that NA dota doesnt like him for some reason.
I only know about him cause he created one of the best huskar's guide i seen so far. Since huskar is one of my absolute favorite hero to play.
I think I read awhile back that NA dota doesnt like him for some reason.
casino royale > skyfall > spectre > solace
I think more bosses should be bullet hell bosses honestly.
Circles and lines get kind of boring. The only problem with bullet hell is that latency makes it very difficult to reliably dodge attacks.
What I really want though, are hitbox based attacks like VIndictus. It came very close to duplicating the kind of encounters you'd find in Dark Souls for a multiplayer pseudo-MMO.
Needs more of that, less tab targeting.
Circles and lines get kind of boring. The only problem with bullet hell is that latency makes it very difficult to reliably dodge attacks.
What I really want though, are hitbox based attacks like VIndictus. It came very close to duplicating the kind of encounters you'd find in Dark Souls for a multiplayer pseudo-MMO.
Needs more of that, less tab targeting.
ritsu
I used to watch him a lot because I enjoy the same heroes he does and he is better than me. I learned sometimes about just waiting for levels on slark is better than a risky cs and stuff like that. He barely even attempts to armlet toggle during fights as huskar which i think can be kind of a mistake where he says "i was dead if i toggle anyways" may as well give it a shot then. His builds are pretty solid and doesn't always build the same item which is nice, he used to talk a lot more about why he was doing things when he first started but he kind of regressed into flaming his teammates a ton after CLQ put him through some shit. NA dota doesn't like him because he has kind of a bad attitude and was really cocky from the start despite poor performances professionally, and to be honest he can be very very demanding to play with in a serious environment. I played a handful of pub games with/vs him and nel games and what stood out the most to me was if you were supporting him he was always mad at you. If he dove and you weren't there he asks "why arent u diving with me" if you dive with him and die he is critical of that. If you pull he's mad you aren't in lane and if you are in lane soaking xp/harassing he was mad you werent pulling. Maybe he's gotten nicer about this, but he actually used to give really good advice on builds and positioning. Also his jungle farming patterns between lane and jungle are really good.
fyck this patch, oh my god this is the quickest a patch has gone to shit for me ever. Why pick ES when you can pick tusk. Icey fissures on a better cooldown manacost damage fucking everything more useful too.
Why pick wyvern when WR's shackleshot is way better, and she can get in there and do damage.
If the mid isn't qop or lina just pick TA and faceroll everyone in your way for your 11 minute deso.
Why pick any sort of carry when you can pick alch and get a 12 minute radiance with 5 deaths but LOL STACKED CAMPS AND BOUNTY RUNES and just infinitly split psuh without ever actually doing anything.
Im about to just buy all the guilty gear DLC so I can shift my depression to awful japanese microtransactions and just play my ps4 and wait for the next patch, I honestly cant bare this any longer. I'm not even getting mad at my team anymore, its just half my games recently are me getitng rolled and losing -22, like wut???
Why pick wyvern when WR's shackleshot is way better, and she can get in there and do damage.
If the mid isn't qop or lina just pick TA and faceroll everyone in your way for your 11 minute deso.
Why pick any sort of carry when you can pick alch and get a 12 minute radiance with 5 deaths but LOL STACKED CAMPS AND BOUNTY RUNES and just infinitly split psuh without ever actually doing anything.
Im about to just buy all the guilty gear DLC so I can shift my depression to awful japanese microtransactions and just play my ps4 and wait for the next patch, I honestly cant bare this any longer. I'm not even getting mad at my team anymore, its just half my games recently are me getitng rolled and losing -22, like wut???
he's not wrong
Wonderboy91
Member
Did people stop picking earth shaker? Wasn't that hero considered insanely good last patch?
misses bull
Banned
Top 5 pub pick rate
shira
Member
Sunsfan and Sajadene went full tryhard trying to get their team up and running. I think they went literally 0-60 after TI5. Not sure if even Secret had that kind of deal right out of the gate
- 4k salary
- in-game item deals
- sponsor deals
- fullservice management
#jellyboys
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Deleted member 77995
Unconfirmed Member
I think my biggest flaw in my play right now is that I like playing a hard support in ranked and can't handle aggressive lanes. Think I might just spam Clock for now.
SecretMoblin
Member
would you say he's inherently op
you might deal with it better if you weren't whining about it constantly in allchat tbh
you might deal with it better if you weren't whining about it constantly in allchat tbh
misses bull
Banned
Why you playing Dota at 730 am
because i'm still awake at 7:30am and havent' got anything better to do?
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Deleted member 77995
Unconfirmed Member
If it makes you feel any better I was playing Tinker earlier and got destroyed by an Invoker who had 1k mmr under me.
misses bull
Banned
You could find a way to counter tinker
i'd rather whine about it until he gets needlessly nerfed, it worked for techies
blademail clockwerk?
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