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[kionedrik]

If this was league. The crowd would be huge.

how many tournaments does league have on a yearly basis? honest question.

Maybe it can be tournament fatigue (wasn't the ESL before TI played in the same place?) or maybe it's just bad timing and organization because the target audience can't forfeit their obligations to pursue their hobbies.

How many viewers do the streams have?

 

[abunai]

idk i'm not valve/esl
maybe they got a cheaper deal for renting the whole week? maybe they just wanted to provide the option?

it'll be good doto anyway

 

[Wonderboy91]

Jeez ppd took his hat off and aged like 30 years.

 

[Auteezy]

How about we all come together and agree that the failings and shortcomings of this major can be pointed solely on the fact that it is being hosted in Europe. The only crowd raucous enough to rival this one was the MLG New Orleans MingLee

 

[shira]

how many tournaments does league have on a yearly basis? honest question.

Maybe it can be tournament fatigue (wasn't the ESL before TI played in the same place?) or maybe it's just bad timing and organization because the target audience can't forfeit their obligations to pursue their hobbies.

How many viewers do the streams have?

47k.

I think the problem is that there is no core audience for Dota in Frankfurt and they keep hosting shit here for whatever reason.

 

[bounchfx]

was waiting for a windranger pick. cmon eg you know you want it

 

[shira]

. . . and the crowd goes wild

 

[Shuggananas]

How about we all come together and agree that the failings and shortcomings of this major can be pointed solely on the fact that it is being hosted in Europe. The only crowd raucous enough to rival this one was the MLG New Orleans MingLee

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJXfqlhc10E&index=23

 

[Auteezy]

yeah eg is losing like 4 straight games to get eliminated. Slotherina sucked the life force out of ppd

 

[kionedrik]

47k.

I think the problem is that there is no core audience for Dota in Frankfurt and they keep hosting shit here for whatever reason.

Political and logistics issues aside, if this Major was held in Russia some shortcomings, like the lack of public right now, wouldn't have been so noticeable.

 

[abunai]

that was far too aggressive wtf

 

[Shuggananas]

lmoa

based satyr

 

[Qvoth]

just saw stream, eg picked sven? :O

 

[Shuggananas]

damn that fight looked sloppy from vega esp with qop dying like that but nice turnaround

 

[JC Sera]

wait when was shuggs unbanned

 

[Qvoth]

original 322 showing what it truly means

 

[abunai]

why vega why

 

[Rawmee]

go arteezy !

 

[abunai]

oh lawd the sven stun dodge into the nyx stun

 

[bounchfx]

holy shit this game so good. such crazy action, i feel like im watching DBZ

 

[Wonderboy91]

Fear is so actually good holy shit.

 

[abunai]

universe with those multi-hero stuns wow

 

[bounchfx]

wow that last fight. vega done dropped the ball this game, was an amazing game to watch

 

[kionedrik]

Lina is such a broken hero

 

[Pyros_Eien]

Synderen called it, hex on Ember > EZ fight. Bought back straight into a stun and died to a crit that also cleaved some poor arctic animal on the side. Lategame Sven is no joke if you don't control him like crazy.

 

[Stronghammer22]

What a throw.

 

[jew]

eg is sooooooooo shit smfh

 

[shira]

What a throw.

Vega.Solo

 

[G.ZZZ]

Purge with no beard omg

 

[Auteezy]

eg is sooooooooo shit smfh

eg just 2v5's with Fear and Universe outplaying everybody and ppd picking some broken hero for sumail and every1 shits themselves like he's so good

 

[abunai]

carl!

 

[Auteezy]

nice to see sumail following my signature wexort invoker style

 

[Wonderboy91]

Oh god why do vega have a 1 position doom?

 

[Auteezy]

Oh god why do vega have a 1 position doom?

1 position doom isn't really that bad, I just don't think that vlads drums is the build for it.

 

[Wonderboy91]

1 position doom isn't really that bad, I just don't think that vlads drums is the build for it.

I agree its not awful, 3.2 strength gain is pretty good, but I'd still rather see it as a 3.

 

[Red UFO]

Crowd is sounding a bit more lively.

1 position doom isn't really that bad, I just don't think that vlads drums is the build for it.

What would you say is "the build" for it?

 

[Auteezy]

Crowd is sounding a bit more lively.


What would you say is "the build" for it?

Probably something based around blink as your first item, Midas+blink, blink+shivas. if you're going to go drums i wouldn't get the vlads right after, but if i were safelane doom getting vlads i'd probably follow it up with an sny. SnY is pretty underrated on doom but it's really only viable if you can farm it in the safelane. It gives you movespeed, tankyness, and can let you slow them.

 

[Monochromaticx]

tobi: "can vega take rosh with SF quick enough?" (with a wolf aura and vlads on the team)

....

 

[abunai]

went away for 15 minutes for a quick meeting and come back to this
didn't expect that, game 3 yas

 

[Shuggananas]

stop picking invoker GEEZ

he always loses games

 

[Auteezy]

tobi: "can vega take rosh with SF quick enough?" (with a wolf aura and vlads on the team)

....

tobi also didn't realize that a courier can just fly straight up over the treeline....

Honestly something like a major you would hope that casters would be super super prepared reading up on everything about players and stuff, but then you see fuckers like tobi...

 

[Monochromaticx]

tobi also didn't realize that a courier can just fly straight up over the treeline....

Honestly something like a major you would hope that casters would be super super prepared reading up on everything about players and stuff, but then you see fuckers like tobi...

thats the type of shit players learn from playing the game...vs bots...on easy

stop picking invoker GEEZ

he always loses games

yup. 38% winrate this patch.

 

[kionedrik]

SF, Lina and Tusk need to be severely nerfed in 6.86...

 

[Shuggananas]

Lina is fine
SF is kinda stupid but not OP, just boring as fuck to watch tbh
Tusk.. eh, I blame the teams letting him slip with dazzle. The combo is insane, even more when you add wyvern on top of it. But tusk himself is alright I'd say

 

[Auteezy]

Lina is fine
SF is kinda stupid but not OP, just boring as fuck to watch tbh
Tusk.. eh, I blame the teams letting him slip with dazzle. The combo is insane, even more when you add wyvern on top of it. But tusk himself is alright I'd say

shards is retarded, and too strong, and snowball provides his entire team a phase shift. Tusk has too much utility with his non-ultimate spells. Slardar is basically a magnus on 0 cd that takes half the skill. ww is a more defensive bane that can farm and doesn't need to channel his bkb piercing ult. Dota has too many heroes with similar kits, but one just outshines the other version of it so much that the other becomes basically obsolete. Yeah bane still has a place, EG showed that, in a CM game, but in an ap pub not really.

also why can't casters criticize players why is there some stupid ass stigma around that. Half the fun of watching sports on TV is for the casters who have an omnipotent view and hindsight to criticize players. In football with missed reads, bad playcalls, bad throws, bad runs. In basketball, shitty shots, bad passes. bad inbounds, stuff like that. But for some reason dota fans want players to be infallible and because they are a pro every decision they make is the best one when really it isn't. I mean fuck when I'm watching geno smith or mark sanchez I care more about what the commentators are going to raz them fore, and the anticipation of whether the plays going to be a fumble or int.

 

[M.D]

sf is such a fucking baller

3 huge nukes to that make him one of the fastest farmers in the game, huge physical damage as well solely relying on souls, armor reduction aura, amazing ult both in dmg and dmg reduction as well as a slow and not to mention decent stat gain being an agi hero and movement speed

he sounds op as fuck just from describing him

 

[Auteezy]

sf is such a fucking baller

3 huge nukes to that make him one of the fastest farmers in the game, huge physical damage as well solely relying on souls, armor reduction aura, amazing ult both in dmg and dmg reduction as well as a slow and not to mention decent stat gain being an agi hero and movement speed

he sounds op as fuck just from describing him

there was no reason for the buff to his early level razes

 

[Shuggananas]

Agree that shadowraze is fucking stupid

Man if vega hadn't played so bad in game 1 this could have been a clean 2-0, sad.

sumail on TILT

 

[Monochromaticx]

wtf is vega doing

 

[Shuggananas]

They can't do shit vs this AM unless they get perfect initiation just like right now but then what does this achieve ? They are still underfarmed and can't commit to high ground

AM just has to get heart and he'll never die, shackle hook and cogs aren't enough
edit : this fucking windranger who fails a kill because he can't be arsed to cast shackle... please