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Dota 2 |OT12| A Safe Place For Your Sociopathic Behaviors.
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misses bull
Banned
No one knows what buy back is in 2k. I think I lost more games for people not having a tp than people not having buy back.
alchemist most op hero, infinite lives
Shuggananas
Banned
I'd be more worried about AM than alch if that were the case TBH
Heavy's Sandvich
Member
it might encourage it, but then someone buys back then doesn't take an engagement for the next five minutes and farms.
Take them out
Take them out
SilentRacoon
Member
I can relate to this, "I was alone because you didn't come with me" from people who won't say a word until we are already on a big disadvantage thanks to him.
Rarely bother playing ranked since I lost a long friend from the WC3 days to it, he got so mad at me for misscasting a shallow grave resulting in his death, he abandoned the game and proceeded to block me from every single website I had him on, haven't heard from him since then. Just don't enjoy the way people are waiting with a knife ready to stab you for the smallest mistake.
Can't that also work the other way? Imagine you manage to get a solo pick-off on a key target, like their carry for instance, and expend 1 or 2 big ultis. You proceed to march down one lane and pressure high-ground since you have the number advantage but if the dead enemy buys back you will, or should, immediately disengage.
You can argue that you made an economic dent on the enemy but objectively you achieved zero with your aggression and the enemy bought some time to farm up some more.
yeah, but I still think its better than no fight at all. Usually unless you're sieging rax you're gonna get an objective even if they buyback, like a tower or rosh.
nvm found it
yeah, I was thinking of ar1se's team, mixed them up. My bad.
Shuggananas
Banned
How about a "no buyback" window right after dying ? Say one second per level or maybe half a second per level ? At level 20 that would be 10 seconds of "fuck you no buyback for you"
Or give a harsher penalty for dying back, even if it's 10 minutes after buyback. Just waiting the 5' counter down is bullshit.
Or give a harsher penalty for dying back, even if it's 10 minutes after buyback. Just waiting the 5' counter down is bullshit.
they already also changed the gold you get from buying back to be only 40% of any gold source (including gold from hero kills). So a buyback triple kill or more won't make an as big gold swing as it used to be
Also more reasons to play aghs necro
Shuggananas
Banned
they already also changed the gold you get from buying back to be only 40% of any gold source (including gold from hero kills). So a buyback triple kill or more won't make an as big gold swing as it used to be
Also more reasons to play aghs necro
Honestly doesn't matter when the defending team has to spend 2 buybacks to wipe the enemy team and then force them to ALL buyback for nothing because then you just have to disengage and assert map control until you get aegis or your important ults off cooldown...
thats why you try to end the game before people save for buybacks
Monochromaticx
Member
buyback should spawn you back are where you died
really tho, I have no issues with buyback i think its just fine.
really tho, I have no issues with buyback i think its just fine.
Heavy's Sandvich
Member
don't pros have it on?
Shuggananas
Banned
Auto attack is trash, auto attack after spell is almost mandatory
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
Did he right click the tiny or was his auto attack on? Either way that's on him.
auto attack after spell also considers items as spells such as blink dagger
Absolutely agree, this is a great mechanic that has a good risk vs reward system.
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
The closest I can get is Blink for Batrider and Sand King, those heroes perform at like 50%(maybe even less) without their Blink. I thought of adding Puck to the list but he can still do a lot just using his orb for initiation.
they already also changed the gold you get from buying back to be only 40% of any gold source (including gold from hero kills). So a buyback triple kill or more won't make an as big gold swing as it used to be
Also more reasons to play aghs necro
Played against Aghs Necro last night, they never landed a ult after buying aghs lol. We were 10k down at 20 minutes, came back and won since they let our SF and (15 min bootless) Spectre farm back into the game. 'twas a silly affair
Shuggananas
Banned
yeah or batrider for that matter
turn it off against tiny pretty much
craggy should stun when attack hits, not as it starts
i'm surprised it wasn't included in the other changes that they made on similar passives like timbersaw, axe and centaur's in 6.84
Yeah, in the past the problem was you'd buyback, win a fight, and get a free positive gain of like 1-2k gold. The new 60% penalty to all gold coming in after buyback has really made it a last resort kind of thing which is great. You're going to come out with less gold 99.5% of the time, but you may have to bite the bullet to defend your base or go for the win.
I don't like it. My main issue comes with mainly playing Tinker. Sometimes I would March from the trees, accidentaly attack and reveal myself.
Sgt.Pepper
Banned
StrongArmSteady
Member
TerryLee81
Member
Am I watching a recast again on beyondthesummit? I swear I saw this game 2 hours ago.
Edit: yeah seems so
Edit: yeah seems so
Sgt.Pepper
Banned
Yeah Bitches!!!
grats bro
my cs go skin thirst is basically done now, snagged all the remaining skins I wanted last night eZ. my guns all pretty now; i can begin the road to global so i can be like
misses bull
Banned
i think once i get a good ak, m4a1-s, awp, and knife skin ill stop
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