Seems like an easy Dota Cinema top 10 play if you pair that concept with a blink dagger.
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Seems like an easy Dota Cinema top 10 play if you pair that concept with a blink dagger.
get a team that tries really hard, this happens
http://dotabuff.com/matches/444198763
get a team that just doesnt give a fuck at all, this happens
http://dotabuff.com/matches/444285857
this fucking game <3
http://dotabuff.com/matches/444198763
get a team that just doesnt give a fuck at all, this happens
http://dotabuff.com/matches/444285857
this fucking game <3
I haven't played against him much so this is guesswork, but surely playing aggressively against him with a silence would be the way to go? Nightstalker for instance could eat him up at night. Other silences also work, just burst him before he can roll. I dunno just theory.
SteveWinwood
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I think the duration buff was huge while the max stacks wasn't that big by itself but when combined then it got deadly.
Plus I mean he got a nerf. Pubs totally dispel stuff with diffusal right?
I haven't watched pro games in a while, so now I'm wondering if the ulti buffs were actually enough to make bb broken/da bes? is having the additional damage really enough to put him over the edge?
nah it's not the ulti buff, it's just the changes to offlane and the nature of the meta right now, bristle now has a place to exist. good patch brought in a lot of underappreciated heroes.
silence is good but it's hard to get the jump on a good earth spirit. bristleyboobs can ignore every single one of es's spells and cripple him at any point in the game. kunkka is another good hero for fighting es, ghost ship does wonders in stopping es ultimate and x/torrent allows you to initiate on him from a million range away while also preventing es from saving people. but kunkka is harder to play than bristolpads so just play brizzlebar.
SteveWinwood
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Are these changes just the fact that people don't pull anymore? He could rock the offline pretty hard as long as you warded before the patch.
:[Never knew you could shackle to items. Threw a random one out when there was nothing to attach to and he got locked onto a TP scroll on the ground for 4 seconds. :lol
In case you wanted to know what the Dota profile of one of God's unwanted children would look like, here it is:
What's his games played / WR / MMR?
I'm 24-4 at 3550 MMR
Hmm, seems okay.
The one time I really had a bad time was vs a Bloodseeker and 2 other AD heroes.
800 range silence and 1000 range rupture which has lower CD than Earth's Ult.
Also protective vision is a must until ES gets a gem. Lycan is great here too along with Ursa. Treat ES like Pudge and just stick a wolf on him.
That's part of it, yes. Along with Bristle being so durable that he can contest pulls and leech XP off of them now, and with pulls being less useful in general. Now that he can get farm and levels, he can crush a lot of the old popular picks like Visage, Timbersaw, and Naix.
http://dotabuff.com/matches/444340271
So despite ganking loads and being 7-1 at one point then 15-6 at another, some games are just too hard to carry. We could have won if not for the PA and Medusa picks. Dat 30 min battlefury huh. I'm not even that annoyed, just bewildered at how some people play. Every time I would tell them I wanted to go in, then when I go in after giving them time to read noone comes with me. The undying and necro were very irritating I have to say, just when I thought I had someone the heals would come out.
Edit: Now that I think about it if anyone is willing to look through and see what I could have done better ( I fed a few times in the mid game) then it would be greatly appreciated.
So despite ganking loads and being 7-1 at one point then 15-6 at another, some games are just too hard to carry. We could have won if not for the PA and Medusa picks. Dat 30 min battlefury huh. I'm not even that annoyed, just bewildered at how some people play. Every time I would tell them I wanted to go in, then when I go in after giving them time to read noone comes with me. The undying and necro were very irritating I have to say, just when I thought I had someone the heals would come out.
Edit: Now that I think about it if anyone is willing to look through and see what I could have done better ( I fed a few times in the mid game) then it would be greatly appreciated.
BrLvgThrChmstry
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Yeah, really miss that feel. It's been over 6+ months since I've played. In the process of slowly building a SFF desktop (one part a week lol). The streams/YouTube aren't doing it for me anymore... So many new heroes have been added since then too.
cuevas. PhD.
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New thread, new mmr?
Prophet Steve
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Everybody should hate me so much for constantly picking earth spirit when I do All Pick. But besides being way too good, he is so much fun to play and at least still requires a brain.
I probably should check out some announcers and a HUD while there is a sale. Someone has a recommendation? Was looking at the Defense Grid one as an announcer. I like the one of Pyrion Flax, but it would probably become kind of annoying and is more expensive. The GlaDOS and Trine ones I have not tried too many times, but they don't seem too good. Bastion seems nice too.
And probably a separate one for Mega kills, maybe Axe or something.
I probably should check out some announcers and a HUD while there is a sale. Someone has a recommendation? Was looking at the Defense Grid one as an announcer. I like the one of Pyrion Flax, but it would probably become kind of annoying and is more expensive. The GlaDOS and Trine ones I have not tried too many times, but they don't seem too good. Bastion seems nice too.
And probably a separate one for Mega kills, maybe Axe or something.
I know that stone-setting feel. I do it too and it wins me games so much.
It's just been making me think about what balance changes will happen.
I think changing damage on the pull from 125 to 50/75/100/125 and removing damage on rock roll would be a good start.
Pull damage is a huge part of his setup and harass early game for only 75 mana and it makes him a viable mid. Remove that 150 burst early and those level 3-5 kills are a lot harder and makes it so he actually needs levels to solo kill.
I think changing damage on the pull from 125 to 50/75/100/125 and removing damage on rock roll would be a good start.
Pull damage is a huge part of his setup and harass early game for only 75 mana and it makes him a viable mid. Remove that 150 burst early and those level 3-5 kills are a lot harder and makes it so he actually needs levels to solo kill.
Dreams-Visions
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Should have been the thread title.
spootime
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Holy fuck check out this match: http://dotabuff.com/matches/444414134
great reason to never give up. We're down 2 raxes with our 3rd exposed and we havent taken any towers. They keep suiciding in and we eventually at the 50m mark decide to push up mid for the hell of it. No one really believes we have a chance at this point.
We keep killing them as they buyback 1 at a time. Eventually we kill their t3, kill both their t4's (ignoring rax) and take down the throne. I still cant believe we won this fucking game.
great reason to never give up. We're down 2 raxes with our 3rd exposed and we havent taken any towers. They keep suiciding in and we eventually at the 50m mark decide to push up mid for the hell of it. No one really believes we have a chance at this point.
We keep killing them as they buyback 1 at a time. Eventually we kill their t3, kill both their t4's (ignoring rax) and take down the throne. I still cant believe we won this fucking game.
Speaking of Earthbro, unsung utility item on him I just tried: Orchid.
"But Hylian, Earth Spirit already has a silence, buying Orchid is silly and redundant."
It's not a "you should buy this every game" type of item, it's definitely more situational, but it helps on those heroes that have an instant escape (like AM's blink) that are harder to land a silence on, and on top of that, it frees up Boulder Smash to be used to gain a positional advantage over someone.
Team lets Anti-Mage freefarm.
Nature's Prophet: IT'S ALL MEEPO'S FAULT FOR PICKING MEEPO AND HE'S THE WORST MEEPO EVER.
http://dotabuff.com/matches/444470562
You let AM sit there and bop creeps for 30 minutes, without doing anything about it, while I got nothing out of my lane. I don't know what you expected Prophet. I don't know how you expected me to beat a 913 GPM AM when I barely had a third that much farm.
Nature's Prophet: IT'S ALL MEEPO'S FAULT FOR PICKING MEEPO AND HE'S THE WORST MEEPO EVER.
http://dotabuff.com/matches/444470562
You let AM sit there and bop creeps for 30 minutes, without doing anything about it, while I got nothing out of my lane. I don't know what you expected Prophet. I don't know how you expected me to beat a 913 GPM AM when I barely had a third that much farm.
For a game to really be viable as competitive, this is the sort of thing that has to be possible. I love when you play epic matches where it seems like all hope is lost and you're able to claw your way back. Glad to finally be getting back into playing it.
some men just want to watch the mana burn
Head of Vengarl
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Wow OT3 already. Time flies.
cuevas. PhD.
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Don't got get that mmr by playing es though?
Just watched that game. Incredible. Even knowing the outcome before hand, I was like "These guys are not going to pull it off"
The other team should have just focused ancient instead of going for megas. Nice game man.
spootime
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Thanks. It was definitely not a game we should have won. Especially with my awful bkb usage, Ireally have no idea what I was doing there.
RukusProvider
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EG still around? haven't seem them throw a game in a while.
The Lina pack is the best one by far, IMO.
Is kasane ksan?
Not by being that bad.
Procarbine
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No, ksan is ksan
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I am 4400 and lost only 11 MMR from that game so he must be a bit higher than I am - I'd guess 4900-5100 ish. No idea on his games played but he's someone I've seen around for at least a year on USW.
Dreams-Visions
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nah, people just run their mouths.
Can't stop won't stop.
Some days I hate this game, some days I love it.
Today is the latter.
What a thrill it is getting completely clobbered early game, persevering as a team to frantically turtle up and get as much farm as you can, hold off must-win pushes by the opposition, and slowly turn the tide in your favor, break down the floodgates, and take it all in the end.
I need a cigarette...I don't even smoke.
Today is the latter.
What a thrill it is getting completely clobbered early game, persevering as a team to frantically turtle up and get as much farm as you can, hold off must-win pushes by the opposition, and slowly turn the tide in your favor, break down the floodgates, and take it all in the end.
I need a cigarette...I don't even smoke.
Ownaaaage!
Don't listen to him
SteveWinwood
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He's been in plenty!
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