Yeah. Maybe make it like abaddon's ult where you can also activate it manually once you have a certain number of stacks but it can also trigger while you're stunned or something
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Yeah. Maybe make it like abaddon's ult where you can also activate it manually once you have a certain number of stacks but it can also trigger while you're stunned or something
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At some point in Dotes history I'd really have liked to see Blink trigger a half second mute or -50% damage or something to make it more of a juke and/or positioning item than 'lol everyone drops in from hyperspace' which is now exacerbated by its lack of mana cost, but that would change up the core mechanics of what defines the item at this point. Might have been an awesome change half a decade ago, but it'd just spark a shitstorm now.
DivineRage002
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All classic blink users are still very high tier, such as tide bat enigma and puck, they can all afford a slight nerf via blink dagger. Since it got free everyone and their mother is buying one. Imo it just needs a slight range nerf. 1200 -> 900 should do it.
neurosisxeno
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Been a rough few days...
this wont happen, some heroes need blink as a core item
DivineRage002
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Yes the ones I listed mostly, they can all afford that nerf. It will just make their initiation slightly less safe.
Would I have to do the math in my head?
I'm already trying to carry my team, you're asking too much.
They should just add one second to the cooldown triggered when you get hit.
I like this.
How about every time huskar pushes a button the asshole playing him gets banned for life?
Fuck Huskar.
I like this.
How about every time huskar pushes a button the asshole playing him gets banned for life?
Fuck Huskar.
What are you talking about? Puck and Enigma aren't picked much, a nerf to Blink would throw them right into oblivion, especially a range reduction. Batrider got hit with the nerf bat pretty much every patch and finally looks to be in a good spot, further nerfs aren't warranted for him either at this point.
interesting idea, what other mechanics in this game use %mana pool for a cost?
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batrider is still really good, even after his Sticky Napalm got nerfed for farming. I agree that he doesnt need any further nerfs.
Pureauthor
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Enigma is/was pretty common all throughout TI.
Ogres aghs and storms zip off the top of my head.
And I mean instead of 3 seconds before you can blink after taking damage, make it 4.
Or just make it more expensive. 2500 gold.
Gentle Rodriguez
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Wut, Enigma gets picked a lot. And he doesn't even build Blink that often, he gets picked up because he can build a shit ton of items very fast and can take towers fast. You nerf Blink he just picks up Mek/Pipe/BKB/whatever.
I meant ways to nerf it that would actually make it less viable of an item. Longer CD, longer disable don't actually matter when all you want to do is Blink in once and cast Ravage/Epi/Black Hole/whatever. Higher cost could work but it would screw over a lot of barely viable heroes, shorter range could work.
That changes a lot more than you would initially think.
That doesn't really deal with it being used to initiate though.
5 picks, 8 bans (a bunch of them respect bans), 40% win rate, and that's a rather recent development due to the Midnight Pulse buff. I never said he's bad or not picked at all but he's no "very high tier".
it nerfs escape-ability, reengage, and synergy with other spells.
example: phase shift and possibly defensive disruptions
No item should be good on all heros? It makes itemization stale IMO.
the argument is it sucks in pubs when all of a sudden you have 5 heroes on top of you
blink is fine
force staff and shadow blade need buffs
Gentle Rodriguez
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I like Blink the way it is, but every pro game 8 out of 10 heroes get it. It's just too good of an item imo.
nerf branch!!!
Pureauthor
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Because it's too good an item right now.
A Sentient Keyboard
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Brown boots now cost 950 and 'break' like tranquil boots do.
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Ok branch is and should be good on all heroes.
I would argue bkb isn't good on everyone, but then people would tell blink isn't good on AM get reckt.
Eh, a ton of items are technically good on most heroes, it's always a matter of priority.
Maybe, that's why you make the alternatives more appealing. 8/10 is an exaggeration though.
BKB in itself is a situational item, blink is a core item.
They had them in one of the special event game modes. They were mana and blink boots! It was awesome!
I also like manaless blink
Making it cost mana again will suck hard
Centuar, Slardar and other strength initiators will become useless again
so every ogre ever would build eth blade and wait for quads
i would quit dota
Give him a 60 sec cd slot machine skill that guarantees a multicast on the next stun (3 of a kind = triple, sevens = quad)
Gentle Rodriguez
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Implying Slardar isn't useless
Guaranteed Multicast every 40~ seconds is fine, but guaranteeing triples and quads is just disgusting.
Shorty11857
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Treant changes around how you have to play a lot, if the other team has Treant then trying to push becomes pointless unless you can guarantee the tower because they'll just heal it up. Makes it hard for your creep wave to push or to do some chip damage to a tower
A good Treant pretty much wins games if the other team doesn't push properly
He doesn't need much to become really good imo, when pros discovered how legit Dazzle is there was a fad where he was almost top pick material.