SneakyStephan
Banned
You rarely ever see those people (I've seen maybe 20-30 max in 2000 games played)
And when you do you report them
And then they go to low priority with the rest of them, and valve gives you an extra report for not wasting it
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You rarely ever see those people (I've seen maybe 20-30 max in 2000 games played)
And when you do you report them
And then they go to low priority with the rest of them, and valve gives you an extra report for not wasting it
I would conceivably be okay with that with the caveats:
a) Concede is disabled by default in the profile options
b) Doesn't get mm psychos to tar and feather the person(s) with it disabled
c) Doesn't split the MM pool into informal parties of "concede people" and "no concede people"
I think you misunderstood me. I was saying that if the game had a concede vote and someone on the team didn't want to conced then the rest of the team would probably start to act like jackasses(happened in HoN), and that's why a concede vote is a bad idea.
1.09 has best stream music but he never streams anymore
SneakyStephan
Banned
misread sorry ^^
Been taking a bit of a post TI4 break from Dota and it actually feels pretty good. It's been really refreshing actually working on my backlog of other games. Might start my solo queue ranked charge to get my MMR.
Contest: I got 2800 Group MMR after my first 10 games with friends that got 2200ish. What do people predict for my solo MMR. Closest person gets an e-cookie.
Edit: Dotabuff for reference.
Contest: I got 2800 Group MMR after my first 10 games with friends that got 2200ish. What do people predict for my solo MMR. Closest person gets an e-cookie.
Edit: Dotabuff for reference.
Allow only one concede call per game ( or again a certain number per week at all ).
Make it so a report after a failed concede vote is taken differently ? etc.. etc..
So many thing can aleviate most of people complain about gg call. Or could at least have been tried, even if removed if needed.
As said many time there is more to how concede can be implemented/balanced than what other games have shown.
But it's not like I would expect it now that valve put the current effort into dota 2 dev anyway, but there would have been room for experimenting when it was still a beta actively supported.
Heavy's Sandvich
Member
ranked really is cancerous.
StarlordDial
Member
SneakyStephan
Banned
That'll eventually get better
as you improve you get matched with better players
courier + wards get bought by a support in 99 percent of games for me, and the pullcamp gets blocked (and attempted to deward) about 90 percent of the time
At first you just have to buy courier and wards yourself every game even if you picked anti mage, noone is going to do it in the low bracket :\
toadsworth
Banned
does anyone want to group up and play? I have no friends and am sick of pubbing.
i have 1800 mmr
Limited concede votes per week sounds decent. Can only have 2 concedes calls at once, they have a 1 week cool down.
Buy extra concede votes for only $.99, #PayToLose
Green Biker Dude
Banned
"if you're not stupid, it's only possible that 4/5 players in your team can be game losing, vs 5/5 possible idiots on the enemy team". or so it goes
that same argument can be applied for the concede situation. if you're not in favor of concede, that's one less person in the team not conceding. since that's a constant in all your games, that must mean, eventually, the conceders drop in mmr after giving up early all the time, while you, amazing player who loves wasting time, will rise and not have to deal with such bad players
given that the player pool, heroes, game modes etc -- the constants -- are the same, either the "math" checks or it doesn't
that same argument can be applied for the concede situation. if you're not in favor of concede, that's one less person in the team not conceding. since that's a constant in all your games, that must mean, eventually, the conceders drop in mmr after giving up early all the time, while you, amazing player who loves wasting time, will rise and not have to deal with such bad players
given that the player pool, heroes, game modes etc -- the constants -- are the same, either the "math" checks or it doesn't
Surrender works in league, it should work fine in Dota. Voice works fine in Dota, it should work fine in league.
Forcing a 4 man vote to surrender is ideal. I've denied surrender votes in league were we win, but those are extremely rare. Most of the times when a surrender vote passes game is basically over. They could do a 5 man vote. Also, I only play in 5 man premades, why can't we end the game like the pros? We pretty much decided to stay in fountain and let them push. They decided to fountain farm.
But whatever.
Forcing a 4 man vote to surrender is ideal. I've denied surrender votes in league were we win, but those are extremely rare. Most of the times when a surrender vote passes game is basically over. They could do a 5 man vote. Also, I only play in 5 man premades, why can't we end the game like the pros? We pretty much decided to stay in fountain and let them push. They decided to fountain farm.
But whatever.
This kind of player exist in any mmr bracket.
No concession. Fight to the death. I personally get no satisfaction from winning when someone on the other team rage abandons and I see concession as the same thing. And if you're on the losing side, you never really know how it will turn out. You may not be able to win a fight because you're so behind, but that doesn't mean the other team won't make a mistake the helps you make up for the imbalance. I'd much rather play to the end and take my loss.
I honestly feel League's version of surrender does breed a defeatist attitude in the game, people give us at such a small perceived lead.
"surrender doesn't work fine in hon, so it shouldn't work fine in dota."
opinions, how do they work
Green Biker Dude
Banned
so do bad players. i've seen an offlane jugg go 6-0-3 at 7 min at the promised land of 4k just now
so if one of your opponents considers the match over, and decides to ult at the wrong times, or purposefully be a little ahead before the engagement happens, or not carry a tp scroll to defend his base, or does any other million things that can be subtle throwing the game. do you not get satisfaction?
what if he then decides to buy the wrong items, or just feed chickens? at what point is the satisfaction line drawn?
Seriously. Or at least make it so pudge's hook and witchdoctors ult cant go into the fountain. When that shit is happening, it is pretty clear that the game is over.
Abaddon is the worst. 5-10s of invincibility for his whole team.
I thought you could concede in team matchmaking (using "gg"). Or did they remove that once it was merged with ranked matchmaking?
No Merlini on BTS casts? FUCK!
blitz says that himself might be rotating to the offlane let Merlini play mid,
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
Wow they might actually not be awful now
Purge is moving over to just managing the team and doing Youtube vids/Twitch streams.
SteveWinwood
Member
who were you
who were they?
theres a lot more to the picture than just that
zomg
team zephyr 4 lyfe
Makes sense. Nice enough guy, but obviously has more an eye towards community stuff than being a professional player.
Weren't Korea's top scene even before TI4. I think the scene will do fine for itself.
Looks like Na'vi wants this courier included with D2CL Season 4:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=294947779
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=294947779
call_kotaku
Member
I'm surprised that Merlini can get more out of playing for Zephyr in Korea than doing commentary/streaming like he is now. I guess technically he can do both.
SteveWinwood
Member
Korean doto best doto
Technosteve
Banned
can tony get a buff? some armor would be nice