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[manfestival]

Atos with aghs on doom drool

"NOOB WHO EVER GETS ATOS ON DOOM"

"GG PUSH MID AND END. WE WONT DEFEND" "THIS DOOM IS SUCH A NOOB"

 

[pompidu]

Pro's need to pick zeus, he's one of my fav's. His ulti can really disrupt teamfights. What needs to change to make him viable?

 

[The Technomancer]

Pro's need to pick zeus, he's one of my fav's. His ulti can really disrupt teamfights. What needs to change to make him viable?

Magic damage needs to not drop off and/or he needs some kind of mobility. The latter is more likely to happen

Then again, I thought having a free dewarder would be enough. Maybe the meta just hasn't shifted enough yet

 

[The Technomancer]

Oddly enough I've seen an upward swing in LC picks. Always on my team. Always bad. For some reason people love jungle LC these days, which blows my mind because they did nothing to improve that aspect of the hero, and jungle LC always falls behind unless they moonwalk into you at the 7 minute mark with less than 100 HP a few times.

Christ, why would you do that? Jungle Legion is basically impossible now with those nerfs

 

[Imp the Dimp]

Zeus is really annoying in pubs tbh

 

[Ketch]

The hero ain't bad in the lane per se, but she'll hardly be a factor in the game after laning if you don't go mid . She need to be ahead in levels/farm to have an impact.

So much this. I've been really disappointed that nobodies running her mid in pro games. I guess there's probably better choices for a mid hero but I think she'd at least beat brew.

You need some early levels and a blink to shit on supports with a lvl 1 duel.

 

[SteveWinwood]

Magic damage needs to not drop off and/or he needs some kind of mobility. The latter is more likely to happen

Then again, I thought having a free dewarder would be enough. Maybe the meta just hasn't shifted enough yet

people get blink on him more often than not nowadays

and along with more veil pickups he falls off less hard

also that change to late game bkbs could make him much more effective but i havent had a super late game zeus in 6.82 so who knows

 

[The Technomancer]

people get blink on him more often than not nowadays

and along with more veil pickups he falls off less hard

also that change to late game bkbs could make him much more effective but i havent had a super late game zeus in 6.82 so who knows

I mean, Super Late Game Zeus can be fucking awesome I know. Back in I think 6.80 I had a fantastic game where I managed to build Aghs, Refresher, Bloodstone and ended the game with like 3.2k health

 

[Demoli]

Magic damage needs to not drop off and/or he needs some kind of mobility. The latter is more likely to happen

Then again, I thought having a free dewarder would be enough. Maybe the meta just hasn't shifted enough yet

Zeus is one of the few nukers that scale increadibly well due to his passive. And refresher Aghs is still brutal no matter the line up.

 

[Monochromaticx]

Is there a post-TI shakeup rundown anywhere? Who the fuck are these teams...

Here you go buddy: http://www.joindota.com/en/news/20193-update-fast-track-post-ti-rosters

 

[inkls]

New dotametric on 6.82 game length and gold bounties impact.

http://dotametrics.wordpress.com/2014/10/08/6-82-has-resulted-in-closer-longer-matches/

 

[Anbokr]

New dotametric on 6.82 game length and gold bounties impact.

http://dotametrics.wordpress.com/2014/10/08/6-82-has-resulted-in-closer-longer-matches/

Interesting tables. Game length definitely went up, for better or worse. And xp/gpm differential didn't really change much from 6.82 to 6.82b.

 

[CharpyImpact]

I am headed off to NYC for ESL One about nowish. I am finding that details are sparse regarding the tournament. Does anyone know when the doors open (I thought I saw in some random AMA or something that it was 10 AM) and what the actual match schedule is?

 

[OldAsUrSock]

http://www.liquiddota.com/forum/dota-2-general/467959-zephyrmerlini-20-20-answers

Well said, officer.

He is still a very high mmr, so you wont get people who get multiple divines, taking all racks and then feed the divines to tiny instead of ending.

 

[SteveWinwood]

He is still a very high mmr, so you wont get people who get multiple divines, taking all racks and then feed the divines to tiny instead of ending.

like hell you wont

 

[inkls]

http://www.liquiddota.com/forum/dota-2-general/467959-zephyrmerlini-20-20-answers

Well said, officer.

Still no vanguard even with the addition of the crimson guard upgrade and the nerf to mek on low int heroes? I dunno

Stop blaming your teammates. Occasionally they'll play like they're on a touchpad upside-down, but you will never get better if you don't focus on your own mistakes and attempt to minimize them. Control the factors you can control (applies to real life, too).

This is really funny to me. Yesterday I was spectating two friends (I use the term losely, its more friends of friends) who I know are notoriously racist and tend to blame their team and/or mexicans/peruvians. They didn't type anything in allchat but the 3 other members of their team did and all they said was variations of "these mexicans on this team, so bad". Even the two players blamed mexicans after the game.

Which baffled me a bit. Everyone on their team was blaming mexicans on their team, so where were they? Its amazing how people can be disconnected from reality.

 

[Hylian7]

Still no vanguard even with the addition of the crimson guard upgrade and the nerf to mek on low int heroes? I dunno



This is really funny to me. Yesterday I was spectating two friends (I use the term losely, its more friends of friends) who I know are notoriously racist and tend to blame their team and/or mexicans/peruvians. They didn't type anything in allchat but the 3 other members of their team did and all they said was variations of "these mexicans on this team, so bad". Even the two players blamed mexicans after the game.

Which baffled me a bit. Everyone on their team was blaming mexicans on their team, so where were they? Its amazing how people can be disconnected from reality.

You are Peruvamexican, I am Peruvamexican. We are all Peruvamexican. Join us.

In regards to that whole thing, yeah, I agree with it, but that doesn't make it any less frustrating to lose a 50-60 minute game because of a dumbass teammate.

 

[The_Hitcher89]

A good game of Dota is the best game
A bad game is the worst

 

[pompidu]

Magic damage needs to not drop off and/or he needs some kind of mobility. The latter is more likely to happen

Then again, I thought having a free dewarder would be enough. Maybe the meta just hasn't shifted enough yet

His mobility is ass and can sometimes be a liability. Not asking for an escape, but a bit more movement speed. His attack animation is ass and could use more range.

 

[kvk1]

I just don't see myself reaching a level of play, ever, where I won't make at least 1-2 crucial mistakes which affect the outcome of the game on some level by the time the throne falls.

So the ability to blame somebody else will always remain a luxury.

Unless I have a Canadian on my team.

In which case I will incessantly blame them.

Because they're too Canadian to do anything about it.

 

[Kade]

Hey man...

 

[inkls]

I just don't see myself reaching a level of play, ever, where I won't make at least 1-2 crucial mistakes which affect the outcome of the game on some level by the time the throne falls.

So the ability to blame somebody else will always remain a luxury.

Unless I have a Canadian on my team.

In which case I will incessantly blame them.

Because they're too Canadian to do anything about it.

We all make mistakes, that's why you can watch replays and spot them to ensure you don't repeat them. git gud nerd

Spoiler

sorry

Hey man...

He means me

 

[Hylian7]

I just don't see myself reaching a level of play, ever, where I won't make at least 1-2 crucial mistakes which affect the outcome of the game on some level by the time the throne falls.

So the ability to blame somebody else will always remain a luxury.

Unless I have a Canadian on my team.

In which case I will incessantly blame them.

Because they're too Canadian to do anything about it.

Technically nobody can reach that level as one team has to lose every game.

The worst games are the ones that are completely out of your hands for the most part, for instance being Earth Spirit at 45 minutes when your carries are doing jack shit.

 

[mfaex]

http://www.liquiddota.com/stream/bountyhunterseries

VP.Polar vs Empire. Just had a nice game 1. Bo5.

 

[kvk1]

Hey man...

i'm jk

i love canadians

like a fat carry loves cheese

We all make mistakes, that's why you can watch replays and spot them to ensure you don't repeat them. git gud nerd

Spoiler

sorry

sounds like too much work

i'd rather play a single hard support game every two weeks and pray you can carry me

 

[BeesEight]

We should make an all Canadian team. Then apologize at the start of every match.

Edit: I think LD is having a meltdown on his stream.

 

[inkls]

sounds like too much work

i'd rather play a single hard support game every two weeks and pray you can carry me

Well I mean, as long as it doesn't interfere with irl stuff. Still, one game every two weeks doesn't sound fun.

 

[kvk1]

Well I mean, as long as it doesn't interfere with irl stuff. Still, one game every two weeks doesn't sound fun.

haha i was half kidding

i just finished a brutal work related project, so the doto has suffered

 

[Pratfall]

haha i was half kidding

i just finished a brutal work related project, so the doto has suffered

we are on a win streak. we basically cant lose. so get the doto while the doto getting is good.

 

[inkls]

we are on a win streak. we basically cant lose. so get the doto while the doto getting is good.

you're next for pudge right? You better go 40-0

 

[SteveWinwood]

off lane dusa hmm

 

[manfestival]

seems like the only good meta now is to go 4 carries and 1 support

 

[Imp the Dimp]

Did Zyori say Treant is not a good trilane hero?

 

[Dreams-Visions]

The power of Medusa.

<3333333333333

hold dat, haters.

 

[Chris R]

Ogre Power!

 

[Calidor]

I went offlane dusa agaisnt a trilane once.

It ended pretty ugly

 

[Randdalf]

Ogre Power!

http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/948435546

Ogre good hero but not good enough to carry team

 

[Anno]

Nice, KPG made it through Euro qualifiers for the Summit round-robin. Hopefully more rares to be won in their games.

 

[ViviOggi]

Has anyone ever seen a mid Techies be relevant?

 

[Borgnine]

How does one combat the standing around that seems to occur in my Rutabaga tier? I was trying to gain some mmr so I went offlane Silencer but my carries followed any victory or advantage by standing there, or moving around in a small circle. Like not even farming, let alone pushing. It was like the river was made of lava. I couldn't really take the initiative myself since I'd just get killed on my own. We only won because the other team stood around more. The worst part was just how boring it was. What do.

 

[inkls]

Has anyone ever seen a mid Techies be relevant?

I think offlane techies is the best. You still get solo xp, but more importantly you can setup minefields while staying in xp range.

 

[Emerson]

How does one combat the standing around that seems to occur in my Rutabaga tier? I was trying to gain some mmr so I went offlane Silencer but my carries followed any victory or advantage by standing there, or moving around in a small circle. Like not even farming, let alone pushing. It was like the river was made of lava. I couldn't really take the initiative myself since I'd just get killed on my own. We only won because the other team stood around more. The worst part was just how boring it was. What do.

ah, the dance of the tards

 

[sixghost]

How does one combat the standing around that seems to occur in my Rutabaga tier? I was trying to gain some mmr so I went offlane Silencer but my carries followed any victory or advantage by standing there, or moving around in a small circle. Like not even farming, let alone pushing. It was like the river was made of lava. I couldn't really take the initiative myself since I'd just get killed on my own. We only won because the other team stood around more. The worst part was just how boring it was. What do.

Carry a TP and go push another lane. If something happens TP in, if not just kill a tower.

 

[Hylian7]

Carry a TP and go push another lane. If something happens TP in, if not just kill a tower.

This, or just go farm something. If your team pings you and is all "WHY AREN'T YOU STANDING AIMLESSLY WITH US?!" ignore them.

 

[Imp the Dimp]

How does one combat the standing around that seems to occur in my Rutabaga tier? I was trying to gain some mmr so I went offlane Silencer but my carries followed any victory or advantage by standing there, or moving around in a small circle. Like not even farming, let alone pushing. It was like the river was made of lava. I couldn't really take the initiative myself since I'd just get killed on my own. We only won because the other team stood around more. The worst part was just how boring it was. What do.

Play carry yourself and ignore that shit. I fucking hate inefficient carries.

 

[Pratfall]

How does one combat the standing around that seems to occur in my Rutabaga tier? I was trying to gain some mmr so I went offlane Silencer but my carries followed any victory or advantage by standing there, or moving around in a small circle. Like not even farming, let alone pushing. It was like the river was made of lava. I couldn't really take the initiative myself since I'd just get killed on my own. We only won because the other team stood around more. The worst part was just how boring it was. What do.

pick a farming carry, call safelane and farm. ignore all pleas from teammates to join fights.

 

[G.ZZZ]

How does one combat the standing around that seems to occur in my Rutabaga tier? I was trying to gain some mmr so I went offlane Silencer but my carries followed any victory or advantage by standing there, or moving around in a small circle. Like not even farming, let alone pushing. It was like the river was made of lava. I couldn't really take the initiative myself since I'd just get killed on my own. We only won because the other team stood around more. The worst part was just how boring it was. What do.

Uninstall the game and this won't happen ever anymore.

 

[Technosteve]

were did RTZ get those naked gurls?

 

[KingKong]

were did RTZ get those naked gurls?

theyre just there at Times Square with a bunch of other weirdos (like the underwear guitar guy)

 

[Ketch]

Has anyone ever seen a mid Techies be relevant?

The only relevant techies I've ever seen was wagamama streaming

Question for people in the know. Is there anything valve or tournament organizers can do about the crazy ddos bullshit? Has it been getting any better lately. I've basically given up on watching pro games.