Yeah it sounds crazy. Good little podcast thing here with Gerg, LD and Monolith that touches somewhat on how insane the entire Dreamleagur thing is. Also some good insight into ESL.
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Dota 2 |OT7| What the fuck have they done
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Yeah it sounds crazy. Good little podcast thing here with Gerg, LD and Monolith that touches somewhat on how insane the entire Dreamleagur thing is. Also some good insight into ESL.
It would be cool if Valve did what they do with CS:GO and sponsored 2-3 tournaments throughout the year besides TI like a starladder, an ESL and a Summit: secret shop, money from treasure chests, maybe putting up a half million dollar prize
Then they could do the same kind of invite system (where teams that made the playoffs from the last tournament get automatically invited and the other teams have to play the qualifier) and maybe use the results to figure out which teams to invite to the TI
Lactose_Intolerant
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poppedcollar69
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Its almost as if the admins dont even understand how the game works
Im sure if you told a professional chess player that he had to play 9 one hour games in a row he would laugh in your face and tell you to go fuck your self
Imp the Dimp
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Hero is ass. PA ain't OP either, git gud, scrubs.
Was it on dire side? I posted a video a few days ago which shows how to get level 6 at 4:30. You do lots of stacking and micro your eidalons.
manfestival
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this rage quit by PPD was glorious
Pls relink too lazy to go search.
stack/make sure the camps you are killing spawn every time if you are hitting them at around :50. Midnight pulse helps with stacked hard camps.
is there a VOD? I'm always up to see PPD being a miserable fuck.
tyvm
manfestival
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lol not sure. dude was rage pinging, yelling in mic, and right as his team was about to lose.... he abandoned the game. Shut off the camera/mic and just had his advertisement playing on the stream till he calmed down.
damn sorry i missed that. on stream too. classic
Oh pub rage, I was expecting that on a tournament, dissapointedkevinsorbo.gif
Cyborgmatt
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It was off the back of this:
Along with some other recent happenings such as teams pulling out of D2CL, D2L and DreamLeague.
Tournament scene is fucking crowded right now and we have more and more people trying to get involved with no real amateur -> pro system setup besides Starladder's ladder leagues (thank god that exists).
One example is VG who played over 100 matches in the last 90 days, almost no break from TI4 etc and we have new tournaments being announced everything couple of weeks with still more to come.
Teams need to start setting an example that they are no longer willing to slave themselves out to all these tournaments, I'd hate to say it but I think DreamLeague will be made an example of with multiple top tier teams pulling out (which would be their own fault for starting late, no bundle, horrible format, horrible carry over from S01 etc) unless the GD studio step in and convince people to stay.
Heavy's Sandvich
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we sc2 now
All of Nexon's items are way too elaborate. Starting with the New Bloom event cosmetics have just veered further and further out of Dota's established aesthetic. Now there's a little anime furry courier?
I mean it was always going to go that direction due to stagnation in design but even disregarding "lore" concerns so many cosmetics just don't seem like they belong in Dota 2. They get voted in by the players but the players don't always know what's best for the game.
Also BH has been a good hero forever. He doesn't fit in every line up but he's a great option to take up simply because it means you can trade in team fights and still come out ahead with track.
I mean it was always going to go that direction due to stagnation in design but even disregarding "lore" concerns so many cosmetics just don't seem like they belong in Dota 2. They get voted in by the players but the players don't always know what's best for the game.
Also BH has been a good hero forever. He doesn't fit in every line up but he's a great option to take up simply because it means you can trade in team fights and still come out ahead with track.
Shorty11857
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I really don't understand how Dreamleague's organisation is so bad, I mean they knew they were having a Season 2 so why are the qualifiers so rushed and why is there no ticket still?
Also why are Team Secret and Tinker playing through an entire Open Bracket, surely they could have invited like 8 teams or something and had the 8 top teams from the Open Bracket play them or something
Also why are Team Secret and Tinker playing through an entire Open Bracket, surely they could have invited like 8 teams or something and had the 8 top teams from the Open Bracket play them or something
It was off the back of this:
Along with some other recent happenings such as teams pulling out of D2CL, D2L and DreamLeague.
Tournament scene is fucking crowded right now and we have more and more people trying to get involved with no real amateur -> pro system setup besides Starladder's ladder leagues (thank god that exists).
One example is VG who played over 100 matches in the last 90 days, almost no break from TI4 etc and we have new tournaments being announced everything couple of weeks with still more to come.
Teams need to start setting an example that they are no longer willing to slave themselves out to all these tournaments, I'd hate to say it but I think DreamLeague will be made an example of with multiple top tier teams pulling out (which would be their own fault for starting late, no bundle, horrible format, horrible carry over from S01 etc) unless the GD studio step in and convince people to stay.
I think all of this supports the idea of Valve (and/or some esports body) to step in. Teams playing just for money isn't sustainable, they need to be playing for something else (in addition to the money) e.g. certain large tournaments should award points which determine selection to TI
call_kotaku
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I don't think Valve wants to adopt the Riot model just yet, and it seems counter to their general attitude of "we'd rather crowdsource it or make an algorithm rather than micromanage anything".
Developers and publishers investing the bulk of the money in a competitive scene is just setting it up to fail, imo.
Haunted
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I do like the idea of a pro tour like in Tennis or fighting games, but Valve has made it clear that they don't want to step in as a governing body.
What we're seeing here is exactly what they want: the tournament scene regulating itself, whether that comes from the side of the audience (viewership) or the teams/players itself (choosing which tournaments to participate in).
As top teams focus on the bigger lans and pull out of smaller online events (and bigger events that are shoddily organised), the organisers of those will be forced to open up for upcoming/semi-pro teams (which, overall, will strengthen the scene from the bottom up).
As long as the bubble doesn't burst completely, this is working as intended. You fuck up, your attendance will drop. If these issues persist, I predict that the next Dreamleague will run into trouble getting the big teams to participate.
When laning, if the enemy aren't harassing you physically you can aggro the creeps to get some reactive armour.
5k is actually worse than 3k, jesus lord christ everyone has a bought acc and sucks monkey dicks there. I even changed my nickname because this shit's unsufferable
http://www.dotabuff.com/players/381...obby_type=&game_mode=&duration=&metric=played
EDIT: got the same 5k acc buyer 2 games in a row in my team. Jesus valve if i report someone in a game probably i don't want it in my team again next game zzzz
http://www.dotabuff.com/players/381...obby_type=&game_mode=&duration=&metric=played
EDIT: got the same 5k acc buyer 2 games in a row in my team. Jesus valve if i report someone in a game probably i don't want it in my team again next game zzzz
Imp the Dimp
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450% damage as opposed to 300% was a kneejerk nerf.
Good, that's normally where you should go with Timber.
rakkadakka
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Across the board Valve is in favor of letting the community handle things.
That doesn't preclude them from either having to appoint a governing body or become one themselves.
Things just have to get messed up enough to force the issue.
Best way to find out is to play him yourself. He suffers from a lack of slow/stun and any escape.. so if he has a team with a strong front line he can do a lot of work. People who can get in his face and do a lot of damage or ignore his spells like bristle really punish him.
I'll have you know they are up to $11.
When do they play, I feel a bit bad for them and may buy a ticket out of pitty.
manfestival
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wow so much rudeness
Looks like some Korean guy on reddit is trying to say the new Nexon Chest comes out on the 25th.
The more interesting thing is he seems to be trying to say there will be a new hero released that day. The guy gives no souce so he could just be some foreign troll, but maybe something to keep an eye out for.
The more interesting thing is he seems to be trying to say there will be a new hero released that day. The guy gives no souce so he could just be some foreign troll, but maybe something to keep an eye out for.
SteveWinwood
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my money is on random troll
There needs to be some order to way tournaments work somehow. Even as a spectator I can't keep track of all the shit going on in the pro scene anymore. I wonder if most players are even aware of or care what tournament they are playing in during any given game. The worst part is most of these tournaments' first place prize is about what the worst team at TI gets just for showing up.
Zai levels up midnight pulse early to break those trees in the medium camp.
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