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[Hylian7]

That AM aghs is 100% broken. As a support player the constant reflection of spells is fucking ludicrous. It is too good of an item for how quickly an AM player can farm up 4200 gold.

I think it might be OP, although I have yet to encounter an AM at all in the few games I have played.

The issue IMO is the backpack, which is what makes Aghs viable. Let's say hypothetically Aghs existed for him in 6.89. His slots would end up being Treads, BF, Manta, Aghs, Vlad's or BKB, and a TP. You don't get the space to go S&Y, Basher/Abyssal, or something else.

Now you can put the TP in the backpack for fights and any extra items you can bring out before a fight, or keep the TP handy when in rat mode.

I feel like the backpack is very much a thing that rat heroes will appreciate.

 

[Sgt.Pepper]

dusa mask of madness is so legit now actually. with the +10 damage talent, dragon lance, mask of madness you get damage attack speed, mov speed and tankness to start fighting early

Split shot doesn't get silenced?

 

[fr0st]

Split shot doesn't get silenced?

Manta to remove

 

[M.D]

Anyone remembers this gem

2GD vs swindlemelonzz Dota 2 Shanghai Major Highlights

 

[Imp the Dimp]

2GD got rightfully fired mid-show

 

[Aikidoka]

2GD got rightfully fired mid-show

Yeah, I agree with that.
As an aside, Is Tobi-Wan still getting casting business?

 

[shira]

Backpack need a a dedicated swap key.

Yeah, I agree with that.
As an aside, Is Tobi-Wan still getting casting business?

Same Lan gigs as last year but no stable studio weekly casting

 

[Monochromaticx]

Split shot doesn't get silenced?

Manta to remove

if you have it toggled on before you use the MoM it will stay on. same with shield.

which makes MoM great with Viper too
doesnt work on viper it seems (i still think its great on him regardless) . but it definitely works with split shot if it was on before mom activation

 

[Mister Zimbu]

Fix your damn bots, Valve. I don't want to play against real people :/

 

[Red UFO]

if you have it toggled on before you use the MoM it will stay on. same with shield.

which makes MoM great with Viper too
doesnt work on viper it seems (i still think its great on him regardless) . but it definitely works with split shot if it was on before mom activation

The difference here is that Viper's is an attack modifier that you can set to autocast. Split shot is a toggleable skill, not an attack modifier.

 

[t0rment]

oh nice, i'm playing @ 9 fps now. fuck you valve

 

[LiQuid!]

Realized I haven't lost a game with Treant in 7.00. He's such a lane dominator.

 

[Imp the Dimp]

I'm on record as being the first in this thread to claim that this patch is utter shit. Just wait for the realization to slowly set in. I expect whine threads within 4 weeks on the r/dota2 front page.

 

[kionedrik]

the prophet has spoken, tremble at his words and repent.

 

[NormalFish]

Realized I haven't lost a game with Treant in 7.00. He's such a lane dominator.

New invis is fun as fuck.

 

[Imp the Dimp]

Mockery doesn't faze me. The point of bold, unpopular predictions is to amass as many doubters and haters as possible to maximize the profits.

 

[SecretMoblin]

I guess I'm #teamImp just for the mess

I enjoy chaos.

auf geht's

 

[Captain Fish]

Fix your damn bots, Valve. I don't want to play against real people :/

"No," says Valve, "You fix them."

 

[G.ZZZ]

Great patch guys

https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2860941015

 

[Quesa]

Great patch guys

https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2860941015

What's your general guide to playing techies this patch?

 

[inkls]

I'm surprised no one has talked about necrophos.

aghs is god-tier.

25 cd at level 18?

Sadist combined with his death pulse is so good and the new skill is pretty good aswell. Like I played a game today with him and had dagon, both ult and dagon came off cd in less than 30 sec.

 

[LiQuid!]

Great patch guys

https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2860941015

 

[The M.O.B]

So that banana peel that has been in since spring was teasing for Monkey King all this time?

 

[rakkadakka]

Mockery doesn't faze me. The point of bold, unpopular predictions is to amass as many doubters and haters as possible to maximize the profits.

Behold, the edgelord cometh.

 

[bbd23]

BALANCE CHANGES

http://store.steampowered.com/news/26467/

Fixed Jingu Mastery ignoring armor for its lifesteal calculation
* Jingu Mastery counter duration reduced from 15 to 10 seconds
* Boundless Strike critical strike rescaled from 200% to 140/160/180/200%

 

[Quesa]

BALANCE CHANGES

http://store.steampowered.com/news/26467/

Fixed Jingu Mastery ignoring armor for its lifesteal calculation
* Jingu Mastery counter duration reduced from 15 to 10 seconds
* Boundless Strike critical strike rescaled from 200% to 140/160/180/200%

This will most definitely neuter his early game kill potential. His overall strength, though, is still really high.

 

[Strider]

oh theres actually a lot of changes...

rip +6 treants

 

[RS4-]

Familiars HP reduced from 500/750/1000 to 300/500/700
* Visage base damage reduced by 3
Treant Level 25 Talent changed from +20% 2s Bash to -50s Respawn Time

lol Visage

 

[Qvoth]

BALANCE CHANGES

http://store.steampowered.com/news/26467/

Fixed Jingu Mastery ignoring armor for its lifesteal calculation
* Jingu Mastery counter duration reduced from 15 to 10 seconds
* Boundless Strike critical strike rescaled from 200% to 140/160/180/200%

curious they didn't change the lifesteal interaction with omni GA but they did with armor considering both were mentioned on reddit, which seems like the go to place for valve to notice things

 

[SecretMoblin]

fixed..... coaching??????


don't believe it

 

[Qvoth]

i think we're going to see more lina and enchantress

 

[Technosteve]

BALANCE CHANGES

http://store.steampowered.com/news/26467/

Fixed Jingu Mastery ignoring armor for its lifesteal calculation
* Jingu Mastery counter duration reduced from 15 to 10 seconds
* Boundless Strike critical strike rescaled from 200% to 140/160/180/200%

Wait thats not a nerf

 

[Armaros]

the NP talent memes are dead.

The x2 treant scaling also scales with Aghs.

3.3K health, ~200 damage treants from killing heroes.

2.2K and ~130 damage from killing creeps with aghs ult.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

Good changes.

 

[Haly]

Luna base armor reduced by 1

RIP Luna in pieces.

 

[NormalFish]

Treant now even better tailored for my play style.

 

[Drkirby]

7.01, and not 7.00b?

But why?

I also like how Valve has just accepted the Sticky buy is only used for TP scrolls, when you could technically stick whatever you want in the box.

Wait thats not a nerf

Yes it is. He lifesteal was nerfed, his Crit does less early levels, and his stack thingy now only last 10 seconds instead of 15.

Also, Treant Bashlord talent.

 

[Jazzy Network]

WTF at the Geminate Attack nerf? Also Clinkz is a monster damage dealer with the level 15 talent.

 

[Deleted member 77995]

Hmm, I didn't even play a game on 7.00.

 

[BHK3]

This is ABSOLUTELY fucking terrible valve like whats the excuse what is so HARD ABOUT THIS

 

[Monochromaticx]

This is ABSOLUTELY fucking terrible valve like whats the excuse what is so HARD ABOUT THIS

LMAO

 

[qazqaNii]

This is ABSOLUTELY fucking terrible valve like whats the excuse what is so HARD ABOUT THIS

Looks like you had over 100 assists. Nice teammate you are, keep it up.

 

[Drkirby]

Guys, fuck the Oracle Database. Its nothing but trash.

 

[Anbokr]

jesus, 4 lycan nerfs?

wew throw him in cm at least plz

 

[Monochromaticx]

Guys, fuck the Oracle Database. Its nothing but trash.

It's a false promise 4Head

 

[Hylian7]

Wait thats not a nerf

How is that not a nerf?

Factoring in armor for lifesteal calculation definitely makes a difference. (this one was a bug though)

Jingu Mastery counter means you have ten seconds before the debuff expires to get your 4 hits in.

Boundless Strike crit isn't 200% at all levels anymore.

 

[Hylian7]

* Restored Shop purchase hotkeys

VOLVO FINALLY GOT THEIR SHIT TOGETHER!

 

[twobear]

Treant now even better tailored for my play style.

they reduced his death countdown timer?

[edit] wait they actually did kkjfldslk;sdg

 

[Hylian7]

This is ABSOLUTELY fucking terrible valve like whats the excuse what is so HARD ABOUT THIS

What MMR is this?

I mean I have had games like that stand out many patches ago. I really don't think this patch is that out of whack other than stuff like Monkey King.

Spoiler

Also glad Lycan got nerfed, and I never had to play against him. I have always hated playing as and against that hero.

 

[twobear]

What MMR is this?

I mean I have had games like that stand out many patches ago. I really don't think this patch is that out of whack other than stuff like Monkey King.

Spoiler

Also glad Lycan got nerfed, and I never had to play against him. I have always hated playing as and against that hero.

i think it's the fact that the assists has been replaced by an ellipses for no good reason not the score