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[March Climber]

You're just now finding this out? And, Nintendo of America.

Dude he's been the President of NoA for six years. He took over for Reggie in April 2019. Like how are you on a gaming forum and aren't aware of this

Also, what's this "Switch" thing everyone keeps talking about?

Do you even pay attention to video games?

He's not going to respond to you guys. He only does one post per thread (2 at most if he wants to drive-by twice), and never responds to a single soul. I don't even know why he asks questions when he doesn't interact with anyone.

 

[StereoVsn]

No I'm talking about a system that does not accept physical cartridges at all. Nintendo could make a digital only switch but they have more respect for their customers.

Yea, you can buy one for the cost of $80...that's $30 MORE than just getting a physical version to begin with. Not exactly an ideal option.

? The DE bundle is $400. The disk bundle is $450. Did you even bother to read before replying. $80 is for standalone either for the Pro (kind of BS) or if you change your mind and want to upgrade DE later.

And also, we are taking about Nintendo, enough with SonyToo. I have dunked on them enough in Pro threads. The point is that Nintendo is unilaterally raising prices without an actual reason for them beyond "Fuck you, give me my money".

 

[AJUMP23]

He's not going to respond to you guys. He only does one post per thread (2 at most if he wants to drive-by twice), and never responds to a single soul. I don't even know why he asks questions when he doesn't interact with anyone.

Kind of an April downer.

 

[StereoVsn]

Nintendo in my opinion gona jave a real wake up call when nobody will want to buy their products redux it's really nothing new. Most casuals already got their HD Mario fix with switch 1 . Nintendo really thinks people and casuals will flock just cause it's Nintendo. Lmao Nintendo needs to rememebr gamecube days

They will sell out for at least initially and probably for a few months. The big question is going to be Fall-Winter 2025, global recession and Nintendo is pitching $80-90 games and $600 (likely tariff cost) consoles in US.

And ROTW isn't going to be much better off economically, minus the stupid tariffs on imports (except for US).

 

[ProtoByte]

I disagree with this. Consumers should have been demanding more from Nintendo for ages already.

No, they haven't. Buying sub PS4 games at 60 dollars and 70 dollars a pop (no price drops) to the tune of 65, 35, 32 and 20 million is not "demanding more" from Nintendo.

 

[Power Pro]

I don't think it is appropriate to take such a position with the Switch. Certainly, some people cannot afford a Porsche so they do not have one. However, we are only talking about few hundred bucks with the Switch 2 so trying to justify the price by making such a statement makes no sense to me. Since people started complaining about the Switch 2 price I've been saying that those people have MUCH bigger problems in life if a $150.00 price increase impacts their bottom line and/or they cannot afford it. Like, if $150.00 matters that much do you how do you even afford FOOD?

Spoken like someone who has never had to live check to check. That's just the nature of living for a large chunk of people. The reason why $150 is such a big difference for some people is they do have trouble affording these things. Gaming is a mainstream form of entertainment though, and it has been for decades. You don't need it to survive, but people need escapism too, and a lot of people, especially today, grew up on gaming.

$150 may not be a big amount of money to you, but to some people it is. They're not necessarily spending their food money to buy video games, but some people do need to save up if they want to get stuff like game consoles. It's why $150 is such a big difference. Let's say there's someone who wants to buy a Switch 2 for themself, or the family. They only have maybe $100 per paycheck for frivolous spending. The price of the Nintendo Switch doesn't make those kind of things outside the realm of possibility. A Switch 2 on the other hand makes that task much more difficult. Add on the costs of games, controllers...the console itself is already more than someone might have had to pay for a Switch plus those extras before.

As someone who used to live that way, I can totally understand the frustration. It's one of the reasons I've kinda hated how games have shifted to this....we're gonna wait til the last minute before revealing a date and price thing. While for me it was exciting to see a Switch 2 coming out in only 2 months....in the past, I would've much preferred knowing at least 6 months, maybe a year ahead of time as to what the cost of something was. That's the only reason I was able to get a PS3 and Wii at launch within the same month, because I knew the prices early, and could save appropriately.

 

[SuperC]

So stick with Switch 1, that's your message if you don't like it?

 

[Lillie]

The New Don Mattrick

 

[Indyblue]

Seems unnecessarily hostile. I like my corporations to at least pretend to give a slight fuck about us.

It's funny to me how people were talking about how Nintendo is really worried about launching their new console and want everything to go smoothly. And then they announce it a day before massive tariffs and respond to any feedback about high prices with a simple "fuck all yall"

 

[Matsuchezz]

Context matters. Matterick was defending a BS policy about making a console that had Mandatory internet checks just for you to use it. This screwed over people who would buy the system and be overseas or somewhere with no internet. It was a shit policy.

This is people complaining they have to pay more for a new console as if this is a crazy outlandish idea.

This Nintendo policy to sell old and half assed games at higher prices than AAA games is bullshit too. Rising game prices on their obsolete technology in games, zero motion matching, lack of voice overs, text based games, no motion capture nor performance capture, catching up with old features. the console doesn't even include the micro SD card. So another 50 dollars for a 256GB card. and charging 10 dollars for a demo of the console, which looks like hot garbage and super cheap, if you think that is ok, you like it in the ass, and that is ok.
It's not a thing about affordability, it's acting out of principle.

 

[AZRoboto]

Sony should have set the ceiling at $60 and left the greedy $10 off the table.
I don't have the energy to start caring now just cause it's Nintendo doing it, people made their choice.

They also tried to get away with adding an upgrade fee to Horizon FW just because they delayed the game out of its original release window.

And with the Switch 2, PS5 remains the only current gen system that doesn't support the previous generation controller for native games. Hilarious "upgrading" games like MK11 at launch for no noticeable improvements - no new controller features - and then needing a second DualSense to play multiplayer.

Oh, but Remote Playing PS5 games? Even an Xbox controller on an iPhone works. Add in the $700 "Pro" system where physical media support is optional and then still needing digital activation of the disc drive, Sony seems quite a bit more out of touch than Nintendo here.

 

[SomeNorseGuy]

Why the flying fuck can't they just get the PR apartment whip up some easy to read graphs about the rise in the average cost of production/development/servers etc compared to sales and say that they need to have these prices to survive w/overhead to grow. Appeal to our sympathy.

Back it up with factual receipts of course.

But we all know most of the corporations in this industry are allergic to transparency.

 

[CLW]

 

[Bernardougf]

Thats just nintendo genius ... you make your games cost 80-90 bucks and suddenly nobody cares about the overpricing of the obsolete hardware.

 

[Illyria]

I'm ok with his statement here. I mean either they offer a weaker system or a stronger one like here & they need to have a message for those who won't pay for it. I have no issue with him supporting the Switch & it's library as an alternative. It's their most successful baby. I would've just added that I hope those customers consider a Switch 2.

A lot of the other complaints about Switch 2 & Nintendo's messaging I agree with. We still don't have answers to everything & they're playing coy or saying wait for the 4/17 direct.

They probably should just hire Reggie for message consulting until next year.

 

[TropicanaTwista]

Crazy that it took until post 5 for this comparison

This is a crazy thing to say

 

[alphachino]

His name should be Dug Bowser, cos he's just digging himself a hole.

 

[Matsuchezz]

 

[vaibhavpisal]

Crazy that it took until post 5 for this comparison

This is a crazy thing to say

Fanboys jumped in to defend immediately. This is quite a damning comparison.

I think the hardware is cool.

But this Bowser dude has talked twice, only to add fuel to fire.

 

[Heisenberg007]

No, they haven't. Buying sub PS4 games at 60 dollars and 70 dollars a pop (no price drops) to the tune of 65, 35, 32 and 20 million is not "demanding more" from Nintendo.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. They didn't, but they should have.

 

[CGNoire]

scrolled down for this

 

[LordCBH]

Seems unnecessarily hostile. I like my corporations to at least pretend to give a slight fuck about us.

Right. Like the best way to answer a question about price isn't to remind people they can buy a switch 1. Just say something like "we believe we will be offering an enticing and competitive product" and call it a day.

 

[hussar16]

Well, good luck with that. Nintendo is coming off their most successful product in history with many of their games selling north of 20 million units.

Nintendo knows their market better than most.

Said sony around ps3 era

 

[Punished Miku]

Damn lol. Evil Nintendo. Not even hiding it.

 

[Leopold]

That's a terrible answer.

 

[LakeOf9]

Nintendo in my opinion gona jave a real wake up call when nobody will want to buy their products redux it's really nothing new. Most casuals already got their HD Mario fix with switch 1 . Nintendo really thinks people and casuals will flock just cause it's Nintendo. Lmao Nintendo needs to rememebr gamecube days

Hey I'm quoting this for a look at this again in a few years when I'm in need of a laugh.

 

[saintjules]

The price point of the console isn't the problem. It's the $80 games. They've gotta set the ceiling at $69.99 and just be okay with leaving that additional greedy $10 off the table. Otherwise I think many people will just revolt and only play old games. And also $80 games is the death of new games. It would be a slow death but a death nonetheless. I can't imagine giving Nintendo $80 freaking dollars for a four-year old Kirby game. Or a very minor add-on to last year's Mario Party. Just ridiculous.

Do you honestly think games will be set permanently at $69.99 forever?

What World is this? I wanna know lol.

 

[Danjin44]

It seems no one is noticing it but long before people crying about MKWorld's price….Konami already increase their price for Silent Hill f.

 

[TropicanaTwista]

Do you honestly think games will be set permanently at $69.99 forever?

What World is this? I wanna know lol.

The problem with this thinking is games haven't even been $70 for 5 years yet. We had $60 for around 15 years. Its way too soon for another price increase, especially from Nintendo, which is essentially jumping up $20 for digital and $30 for physical. That's insane.

 

[awwr999999]

Almost surprised he didn't say that you need to get a second job.

Or just buy a used Wii with a lot of the same games.
It'd be great to see a chart with every game exclusive to Switch 2.
Underneath that it would show all the games that exist on cheaper legacy HW.

Nintendo's biggest competition is going to be legacy Nintendo HW that plays the same games and their inability to keep making new games for existing franchises.
Even Disney quit using Mickey after a period of time and made him the brand ambassador.
Everybody "loves" Mickey Mouse but Disney's quasi retired him from film and pushed out new IP.
Mario should have crossed over that threshold a decade ago to make room for exciting new Nintendo IP.

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

Said sony around ps3 era

Sony was competing in a red ocean against a serious competitor that launched a year before them.

Nintendo is swimming alone in a blue ocean today.

Plus, let's be real...$499/$599 in 2006 isn't the same as $499/$549 in 2025

 

[Kurotri]

Got a good laugh out of me. Time really is a flat circle..

 

[Agent_4Seven]

Exactly this.

 

[Barakov]

Doug Bowser really has that 2013 Don Mattrick energy.

 

[SkylineRKR]

This never works.

Sega said it about Genesis. Saturn was expensive but their main pillar was Genesis and it was affordable. No one bought it and support died. Mattrick said it about Xbox 360, which also died as soon as the successor was out.

Switch will also die, its slowing down a lot and many Switch 2 games won't be released for it from the get go.

The biggest problem though is the price of software. Nintendo software has been cheaper than the competition since the Wii. Now their software is the most expensive. But if they see sales not picking up fast enough they will ofcourse respond.

 

[Robb]

First thing that popped into my head as well.

 

[DenchDeckard]

Some people wont buy it not because they cant afford it but because its overpriced obsolete hardware with no redeeming qualities

Those people would be good not to buy it as they are clearly not all there and probably won't be able to work the motion controllers properly

They would hurt themselves or someone around them. So it would be good for such pond life to leave the switch 2 alone.

 

[Unfortunatecookie]

Terrible PR. Stuff like this is what makes your current Switch users not want to support the Switch 2. It's bizarre how these top-level guys forget about customer goodwill.

 

[RobRSG]

So the dude who runs Nintendo his last name is Bowser. Am I getting this correct?

 

[Guardian Monkey]

Sounds like a lot of these games may be multiplatform at for the near future. Maybe this year and next for 1st party. The current upgrade process seems to reflect this. I doubt we will see mkw on sw1 but I wouldn't be shocked to see a paired down DK and future 1st party other after his comments. Gives time for the fan base to move over giving valid upgrade options.

 

[Signalis]

So......stick with 360?

 

[panda-zebra]

Xbox One, Switch 2, PlayStation 3. The set.

When pure greed is allowed to take over it requires a lot of humble pie and reflection to get past that early bell-ended hubris.

We know how xbox and Sony navigated their self-inflicted fuckwittery, let's see how Nintendo copes in the coming years.

 

[Power Pro]

 

[DenchDeckard]

I advise all execs to stay quiet ahead of a hardware launch. Just cover rhe bear necessities.

 

[kazuyamishima]

I'm sure Sony would've said the same thing about PS4 if asked about the price of the launch PS5.

What do you expect them to say, "Let me lower the price for you real quick"?

Most new systems now cost more than the previous one. Get over it.

PS4 price when the PS5 launched: $299 for the Slim and $399 for the Pro.
PS5 price at launch: $399 for digital and $499 for disc version.

Switch 1 price when Switch 2 will launch: $199 for the Lite, $299 for the OG Switch and $349 for the OLED.
Switch 2 price at launch: $449.

Yeah, Nah!!

 

[jm89]

 

[jufonuk]

You're just now finding this out? And, Nintendo of America.

Wait until he finds out about their old warehouse guy from Brooklyn

 

[Dazraell]

 

[Mr Hyde]

I can't believe he pulled a Don Mattrick. Like. Wow. Bizarro world right now on Nintendos communication around Switch 2.

 

[MagiusNecros]

It's not console price that's the issue. It's game price. Price cap at most should be $70.

So he really just sidesteps the actual problem people have.