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Dragon Age Veilguard, Non Binary character

Big "I have gay friends so it's totally not hateful when I equate trans people with child molesters" vibes.

Maybe try making friends with trans people, they're just people, they like games too, and they like having games where they are represented. This game seems a little cringey, probably even to trans people, but not worse than the decades of interchangeable dudebro space marines.

Gender dysphoria is a mental illness and I hope they get the proper help they deserve.
 

Mister Wolf

Gold Member
If I was the LGB I would distance myself and stay the hell away from the TIA+minor attacted persons

The reason they won't do that is because many fall into multiple categories. And they have more power in numbers. So the ones that don't agree with it just shut the fuck up and let it ride.
 
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nikolino840

Member
The problem is that non-binary/trans topics usually isn't a live and let live situation cause they go after children.
They're sexualizing minors and convincing some to castrate themselves. There is no gender affirming care, just castration with no future procreation. It's actually pretty Satanic if you think about it.
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FunkMiller

Gold Member
The problem is that non-binary/trans topics usually isn't a live and let live situation cause they go after children.
They're sexualizing minors and convincing some to castrate themselves. There is no gender affirming care, just castration with no future procreation. It's actually pretty Satanic if you think about it.

This line explains your entire warped and somewhat deranged worldview. Are the satanist paedophile transgender people in the room with you now?

PRAY HARDER.

And then calm down a bit. And stop looking at so much social media. You're falling for a fairly typical moral panic, that has little to no bearing on reality.
 
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RCU005

Member
I don't mind people be whatever they want. They want to identify as a girl, boy a mixture of the two? I'm ok with it 100%! But I HATE 2 things:

1) Butcher the language with the ridiculous " I'll use they instead of he/she"
2) These things being forced into games and media. There are some tv shows and movies where they do it natural and it's always great, but when it's forced, it's always bad.
 

Tangerine

Member
it dropped out of Top-10 ON release date :messenger_tears_of_joy:

the highest it climbed at No. 4 for two days :messenger_tears_of_joy:


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Looking good. As a failure. Yes I'd rather this game crashed and burned... if that wasn't obvious.

Cut out this cancer from the industry.
 

Mister Wolf

Gold Member
it dropped out of Top-10 ON release date :messenger_tears_of_joy:

the highest it climbed at No. 4 for two days :messenger_tears_of_joy:


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Let's hope this game serves as an example that the majority of the populace aren't willing to abide this lunacy.
 

TransTrender

Gold Member
I just found out that the german localisation apparently uses the most aggressive form of gender language ever in a video game.

this will absolutely not go over well. if you think they/them is cringe, you have absolutely no idea. german gender language is literally cancer that kills readability and makes your skin crawl, as it goes against basically anything the German language was build upon until now.

Bavaria banned its use in schools and administrative bodies as well btw. and I hope other parts of germany will eventually follow tbh.
I'd love to see a confirmation of this as well as the overall reaction from native German speakers.
 

kevboard

Member
I'd love to see a confirmation of this as well as the overall reaction from native German speakers.

gamepro.de has a review up, and it has 250 comments already. at most they get like 100 for hyped up games, over the course of a week.

they are also a relatively "woke" site. so if you go into the comments, multiple are already removed, and many of the ones remaining are the ones that, let's say... object to the gendered language in the most civil way possible.

if you do anything more than maybe say that it disrupts the flow of reading and speech you'll be banned or at least the comment will be removed.
even so, the most upvoted comment is exactly that. it's a comment asking "what exactly is positive about gendering?"
the second highest comment is someone quoting that the game uses gendered german and says "this means I'm out", with people agreeing below and one guy telling him to play it in english instead
 
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TransTrender

Gold Member
gamepro.de has a review up, and it has 250 comments already. at most they get like 100 for hyped up games, over the course of a week.

they are also a relatively "woke" site. so if you go into the comments, multiple are already removed, and many of the ones remaining are the ones that, let's say... object to the gendered language in the most civil way possible.

if you do anything more than maybe say that it disrupts the flow of reading and speech you'll be banned or at least the comment will be removed.
even so, the most upvoted comment is exactly that. it's a comment asking "what exactly is positive about gendering?"
the second highest comment is someone quoting that the game uses gendered german and says "this means I'm out", with people agreeing below and one guy telling him to play it in english instead
Thanks for the update!
I'm glad you hear it's not being taken well.
 

Nickolaidas

Member
I always liked that guy. He's a laugh. He didn't breakdown like that over just the pronoun slider in starfield. That's how the story was covered though.

But yeah he was/is right. He already made one 10 minute video on this game last i checked.

Well today's the magical release day. 3am in the UK currently, just woke up for the day. Ugh.

Still at least I'm not a story writer for vanguard I suppose!
Az fucking rocks.
 

Doom85

Gold Member
Oh thanks for clearing that up. I'm just about to make a doctors appointment for gender reassignment surgery, change my pronouns, dye my hair blue.

I just deleted hogwarts legacy in fact. I'll be a woman by next week.

Now to fill my twitter bio with rainbow flags and my preferred pronouns.

Kiss 💋

A) wasn’t even talking to you
B) all these flavors, and you choose to be salty?
 

Hrk69

Gold Member
Oh thanks for clearing that up. I'm just about to make a doctors appointment for gender reassignment surgery, change my pronouns, dye my hair blue.

I just deleted hogwarts legacy in fact. I'll be a woman by next week.

Now to fill my twitter bio with rainbow flags and my preferred pronouns.

Kiss 💋
You can be a woman now. No need for surgery and all the other stuff.

Just identify yourself as a women and that should be enough.
 
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Tangerine

Member
A) wasn’t even talking to you
B) all these flavors, and you choose to be salty?
Just fed up with this excuse for they them being espoused everywhere. It means nothing. I wasn't specifically talking to you either, just bouncing off what you said. Don't take it personally.
 

Doom85

Gold Member
Just fed up with this excuse for they them being espoused everywhere. It means nothing. I wasn't specifically talking to you either, just bouncing off what you said. Don't take it personally.

I was just clarifying it isn’t an issue with the English language being “butchered”. Even if it was, words can change meaning. Lord knows the anti-woke can’t argue against that (unless they want to be hypocritical), as their entire movement is founded on the changing of the definition of a word (changing the original definition of “woke” which was used by the black community back as early in the 1930’s to mean being aware of social injustices against them).
 

Tangerine

Member
I was just clarifying it isn’t an issue with the English language being “butchered”. Even if it was, words can change meaning. Lord knows the anti-woke can’t argue against that (unless they want to be hypocritical), as their entire movement is founded on the changing of the definition of a word (changing the original definition of “woke” which was used by the black community back as early in the 1930’s to mean being aware of social injustices against them).
On this issue, you may well have a point.

But I guess there's so much to dislike in this game that it's death by two dozen deep cuts. This is not dragon age. It's a lecture, it's for children. Made by narcissists. Your point in isolation doesn't mean much, when I'm coming at it from that angle. Not to say you should know what angle I'm at. You made a post on a public forum. Anyone is entitled to respond, it doesn't matter if you weren't talking to me. I'm not salty I'm genuinely incensed by all the games being infected by SBI and that ideology. It's disgraceful.
 

Doom85

Gold Member
What a load of contrived nonsense.

As usual the amount of mental gymnastics required in the attempt to pass aspects of this ideology as reasonable keeps growing.

Bruh, the only mental gymnastics is someone claiming the English language is being butchered when it clearly is not. If you want to make yourself a time travel device and go back to the 14th century and argue with them about it, be my guest, otherwise the only nonsense here is people acting like “they” has never been used in a singular form.
 
Feels good to be right about this vile abomination of a game, from the very start of debates on whether or not it's a polished turd.

Could you give me examples of an "inclusive" game you won't buy nor "free 99" it? Like what games? Deathloop? Alan Wake 2? Mortal Kombat 1?

Idk, like, the upcoming Dragon Age game? I heard it's written or directed by some transgender person, and those people usually make the idea of pushing their agenda on others a #1 priority. I watched the trailer. It seemed weird to me. It doesn't feel like the game was made for everyone to enjoy. It's as if the trailer is saying: "Either you embrace our ideas and go along with this level of [insert a non-offensive term for gay stuff], or see yourself out please." Well, I'm out.
 

Sentenza

Gold Member
Bruh, the only mental gymnastics is someone claiming the English language is being butchered when it clearly is not. If you want to make yourself a time travel device and go back to the 14th century and argue with them about it, be my guest, otherwise the only nonsense here is people acting like “they” has never been used in a singular form.
Imagine having to justify a linguistic equivalent of shitting the bed with “Someone did it when using archaic English in 1315”.

This while also admitting in the article itself that the singular use for they/them has been formally recognised as an error since the Victorian era.
 

CGNoire

Member
I do enjoy popping over to the asylum every now and then to read the mad bastards posts to see if there's any sense to be had and lo and behold the purple hairs are all turning on each other and lashing out at the slightest deviation from the hivemind... How in the fuck can you have a discussion over there with a gun held to your head and a lunatic holding the trigger and how in the fuck can they not see that this is some Nazi burning books level of censorship, anyways this Dragon Age is turning into something spectacular, cannot wait to see Critical Drinkers take, I'm sure he'll go extra easy on it....

Also how can anyone with any sense of decency or braincells have issue with Skillups video, it was a well balanced and fully justified take and he brought all the receipts.


"Ok, this is now reaching levels of harassment I'm no longer ignoring. So 2 responses here:

1: I was in the Dragon Age-thread earlier when others had posted about the Skill Up-review and nobody mentioned that it was a banned source. I was away a couple hours, someone in a Discord-chat posted it and I watched it. I returned to the thread here on Resetera to talk about the bad voice acting and writing in that scene I saw, and suddenly YOU hit me with "omg, how can you post a banned source!". From earlier, I had assumed Skill Up was an allowed source. Immediately, I edited my posting to remove the Skill Up-content.

2: I haven't responded to this thread because multiple people instantly attacked me in the worst way for a posting where I called out a racist chud. Instead of acknowledging that, you chose to focus on ONE word I used. And I still wouldn't know what other word to use. There was zero ill-intent. I didn't respont, because you had already chosen to interpret my sentence in the worst ways possible. So let me be clear:

I wrote that I don't like some of these modern designs.

What you guys turned this into:

- he hates ALL these designs!

- he hates LGBT people!

- he wants to remove these designs/forbid them from existing!

And guess what: None of that is true. There was one user that even claimed "there is never a valid reason to dislike these designs". What an utter piece of bs. I was talking entirely on the visual/aesthetic enjoyment I receive from seeing a design, and that is 100% subjective and for everyone to decide for themselves. For example I don't like the Fable-heroine's design. But I don't go on a tirade to call her "ugly" or that she should be changed or anything. It's simply my subjective perception that I don't like that specific design. And that is valid, because I didn't choose to not like the design, it just is so. You don't get to make rules for what designs can and cannot be liked, that would be absolutely insane. Wanna know what designs I also dislike? Pretty much all of those big-boobed dolls that the chuds always want to replace female characters with. So stop trying to put me in some group that I don't belong, thank you.

If the term "modern designs" is forbidden on Resetera, then tell me what better alternative to use, because, again, there was zero ill intent. I don't think saying "inclusive designs" would be a good term, as I've seen some people say, because we shouldn't want to connotate "not traditionally attactive" with "inclusion", that'd be rather insulting imo. But you make the rules, so whatever the prefered term is, okay.

This will be my last posting in the thread. Hadn't planned on posting again after people immediately, and for days, tried to get me banned for one term that had no ill-intent, in a posting where I called out a racist chud. Sorry."
Hahhaha...i almost screenshoted this yesterday with the intention to post it here. The Begging, the Groveling, and the endless Virtue Signaling....so Fucking Cringe. 🤣
 
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