Dragon Ball Super |OT6| Put your back into it.

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17´s base level was beyond Frieza and any Super saiyan. His current level is within the realm of what Super has done ( Frieza and Trunks ).
He has been training for 13 years.

But he trained on an island. Think about what Goku did to get to SSB. Goku SSJ should be leagues above the SSJ from the Android Saga. I would except if C17 reached this level on the island with his training. But SSB is too much!

Don't get me wrong C17 is awesome, but j
ust no to his current power up.

I even thought that the Freeza Power Up was silly, but accepted that he never trained before and got stronger. Same thing again with C17? Not with earth's gravity level.
 
Even during Resurrection F he wasn't that weak. Gohan in base was stronger than Piccolo who was around semi-Perfect Cell level. If you go back and watch episodes 21-22, once Gohan uses SSJ he stomps Tagoma, who seemed to be on par with Ultimate Gohan per his own words.

wait what? was this 21 or 22?
 
17 blocks the kamehameha like it was nothing. Jesus.

This fight and seeing 18 step in to help Krillin were probably the best things about these last three eps.
 
So when a poster's posts ratio is 90% shitposting, does it warrant a ban ?

If it did, I wouldn't be here. /s.

I can't wait to see the reactions when Roshi fires a Kamehameha that makes Goku go "Wow, Master! Your so strong! I had trouble even keeping up with you in SSB form."
 
But he trained on an island. Think about what Goku did to get to SSB. Goku SSJ should be leagues above the SSJ from the Android Saga. I would except if C17 reached this level on the island with his training. But SSB is too much!

Don't get me wrong C17 is awesome, but j
ust no to his current power up.

I even thought that the Freeza Power Up was silly, but accepted that he never trained before and got stronger. Same thing again with C17? Not with earth's gravity level.
Maybe 17 trained with the Aztec Gods of Fitness AI-YAI-YAI-YAI!!!
 
Going by the explanations for 17's power up, it's like this:

Majin Race > Androids > Freeza Race > Saiyans > Humans

Buu (Uub?) have the most potential. Saiyans are weak sauce.
 
Run away from this thread.

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lmao all this talk about power levels

Watch it not last by the start of the Tournament. lol
My man's gotta eat.

I guess Goku's fight boner has finally reached Hisoka levels.
It's really weird.
 
I'm telling you roshi is going to reveal ever since vegeta came to earth he has been secretly training.

Kuririn talked about training with Roshi for the Androids. The anime added a scene afterwards where Roshi refused though, but there's just no follow up to that comment in the manga.
 
But Goku is the Super Saiyan God and Vegeta is clearly Whis's preference for next God of Destruction

That's cause they haven't meet 17 and 18 really yet. I mean if 17 is as strong as SSBlue Goku training by himself, and Freeza turned gold by training only 4 months, clearly there are beter options than Saiyans.

And on more than one occasion, Beerus commented on how troublesome the Saiyan's personalities are.
 
I wouldn't rule this out and Piccolo will magically be god level too because fuck it.
*Piccolo inner monologue after getting outpaced by Gohan in special training*

"Why can't I keep up with the Saiyans?"

"You merged with me, who was once a god. You just never realized you could become one yourself, Piccolo."

"Wait, Kami... you don't mean...?"

"Just belieeeeeeeeeeve!"

*long scene of Piccolo turning into Namekian god*










"Told you it would work, Kami!"

"Shut up, Nail!"
 
*Piccolo inner monologue after getting outpaced by Gohan in special training*

"Why can't I keep up with the Saiyans?"

"You merged with me, who was once a god. You just never realized you could become one yourself, Piccolo."

"Wait, Kami... you don't mean...?"

"Just belieeeeeeeeeeve!"

*long scene of Piccolo turning into Namekian god*

"Told you it would work, Kami!"

"Shut up, Nail!"

And that will still make more sense than 17 but that will never happen. This arc is clearly for Gohan, Buu, 17 and Krillin.
 
*Piccolo inner monologue after getting outpaced by Gohan in special training*

"Why can't I keep up with the Saiyans?"

"You merged with me, who was once a god. You just never realized you could become one yourself, Piccolo."

"Wait, Kami... you don't mean...?"

"Just belieeeeeeeeeeve!"

*long scene of Piccolo turning into Namekian god*










"Told you it would work, Kami!"

"Shut up, Nail!"

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Lmao i hope Roshi does pull a crazy technique from his ass, just to see the hardcore power level fanatics lose it.

after he pulled the "lol u should just trap him using this unstoppable move that i know u idiots" thing in the Black arc, I'm sure there will be something
 
So how come 17 and 18 weren't this stupid powerful in the future Trunks timeline? And hell, why were they even evil in that timeline anyway? Their past/future personalities don't match at all.
 
So how come 17 and 18 weren't this stupid powerful in the future Trunks timeline? And hell, why were they even evil in that timeline anyway? Their past/future personalities don't match at all.

In the future, they weren't training. They just killed everyone for the fun of it. Idk why they were evil after killing Goku. Maybe they got bored?
 
Anyone else bothered by the lack of Pilaf gang in this arc

They were around in the episode that took place while Goku was hanging around in Bulma's home.

Besides, Toei doesn't seem to like Trunks x Mai, so if Toriyama hasn't written any actual development for them this arc they'd probably get nothing, just random comedy scenes.
 
Tien's gonna give SSB Goku gonna get that Cell treatment when he busts out the x100 Tri Beam. I'd be fine with it cause that move has always been portrayed as the most effective bang for your buck outside of the spirit bomb.
 
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