Dragon Ball Super |OT8| There is no justice or evil, only survival or erasure.
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Pankratous
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Haven't watched the episode yet but these consensus seems to be that SSG is NOT better than SSB?
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
Just watch the episode. It spells it out for you.
Undead Fantasy
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The Silver
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OK so SSG isn't faster than SSB somehow, just uses less stamina like the manga.
Another feat here with DB finally confirmed 100% faster than light.
Another feat here with DB finally confirmed 100% faster than light.
Wheeljack539
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Whis states the God is faster than Super Saiyan but uses less stamina than Blue. Blue is still implied to be stronger and faster.
NeonZ
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It's basically the same as the manga. It's weaker but uses less stamina. However, it's still better than SSJ1, which contradicts Super's version of BoGs. It lines up fine with the movie though.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
SSG should have never gone missing in the first place.
What, you didn't like how it appeared out of fucking nowhere?
This is the kind of shit Sony does. Stop it.
Reizo Ryuu
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Don't think ssg makes him any stronger, maybe just a bit.
As he absorbed the power and his base form is supposed to be equal to it in power.
It probably just gives him the super speed boost, without any stamina drain issues.
plus it also has some healing proporties, going ssg sounds like a straight up better deal than using ssj or staying in base.
I wonder if it has a time limit then, or something that prevents him from constantly using it; if going by BoG it probably still has a time limit.
As he absorbed the power and his base form is supposed to be equal to it in power.
It probably just gives him the super speed boost, without any stamina drain issues.
plus it also has some healing proporties, going ssg sounds like a straight up better deal than using ssj or staying in base.
I wonder if it has a time limit then, or something that prevents him from constantly using it; if going by BoG it probably still has a time limit.
Undead Fantasy
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That's not canon.
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MeisaMcCaffrey
UpDownLeftRight
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I was wondering about that. I figure Zeno isn't a fighter hence he finds the tournament exciting to watch. So perhaps has basically infinite power but no need to use it outside of things like wiping out a universe.
Undead Fantasy
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Now someone really needs to ask Toshido what the fuck is happening with SSG.
One: glad that Hit wasn't knocked out. An awesome character like him deserves more.
Second: Champa is indeed my favorite god. So hilarious that prick.
Third: fuck the Pride Troopers. No, I'm not kidding, fuck them. The so called Justice Warriors, and they are a bunch of cowards who gang up against other warriors. I won't shed a tear after they get wiped out, including Toppo.
Second: Champa is indeed my favorite god. So hilarious that prick.
Third: fuck the Pride Troopers. No, I'm not kidding, fuck them. The so called Justice Warriors, and they are a bunch of cowards who gang up against other warriors. I won't shed a tear after they get wiped out, including Toppo.
ArchedThunder
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Liked the episode even more in HD with subs. I don't like that God is back, but other than that I really loved this episode, Hit was awesome.
Seems like in terms of power and speed, its: SSB > SSG >> SSJ1. It makes sense that Goku's pulling out SSG now even though he ditched it for a long time, because a large factor of this tourney is stamina. I expect that SSB and SSG are roughly in the same tier, so that in the past it made sense to jump from SSJ1 straight to Blue and ignore Red entirely. The main issue here seems to be the consistency of Goku "absorbing the power of SSG" in the anime, which would make SSG redundant. (Which this episode showed it isn't.) Unless they meant the jump in power alone, and that Goku's current understanding of God Ki makes SSG viable again?
Yuuup, Dypso was a huge douche. He kept on ranting about how he was annoyed by Hit's confidence, when he himself was arrogant and got duped into a trap. At least Hit can back up his confidence with actual results. And Toppo dropping the justice persona should make him more tolerable.
The Silver
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I'm very disappointed, a true hero never throws out justice. Superman would be ashamed.
Weird mindset. If universe 7 had any sense, they'd be doing the same thing
MiguelMexMIstery
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I mean, this is a Tournament for the survival of their Universe and U6 knocked out half of their team.
disgusting
The Silver
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All this transforming back and forth, no wonder Goku needs a new form, he's gonna be running on fumes at this rate.
Dougieflesh
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Justice goes out the window when your Universe is at stake.
Guys should we use numbers anf strategy to ensure our universes survival
Nah bro it wouldn't be fair
Universe 6 has been trash so far.
Half their fighters haven't been revealed.
They can't do anything without Goku babying them.
I feel like this is the last arc that will use SSG and SSB, because whatever this new transformation is will make them obsolete, or maybe something similar to Ultimate where Goku can't use them anymore, so this is Toei just trying to squeeze as much out of them as they can.
The Silver
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Half of them were but Gohan decided to drop that plan
Yeah I don't know... feels cheap at this point.
All universes are a mistake he should erase them all
Icyflamez96
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Me too. Episode was awesome. Fun interactions, the fighting was the most interesting it has been so far. Zeno has limits confirmed. The whole SSG thing was sloppy but I thought the episode overall was great. Animation was easily on the stronger side for Super. Enjoyed watching this one quite a bit. Probably my favorite tourney episode so far tbh. Funny, the last 3 episodes have all been my favorite. Things started off weak but it's getting pretty good for me.
Also crunchyroll said SSG was faster than SSJ, not SSB...
Eh... I know it is survival and everything is fair game, but I don't want to see Universe 6 characters go out so fast (especially Hit and Caulifla), and lose Champa and Vados banter. And so far, we have only seen the Pride Troopers gang up against them (although admittedly, Kale is a big threat when she loses control).
I like the SSG thing... buuut it sucks they pulled it out of nowhere here. Would have been nice to see in previous arcs. I really feel like the manga got it right in regards to the two forms and switching between them
Not that any of this matters because we know Goku is getting a badass new form anyway
Not that any of this matters because we know Goku is getting a badass new form anyway
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
I want to see what those Namekians from U6 are all about
The Silver
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god I love Champa, I lol'd when he actually got himself a vuvuzela.
ArchedThunder
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That's what was said, it was specified that God was faster than Blue when he burst into Blue to attack.
QuiteWhittle
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Screw the (remaining) Pride Troopers for the opposite reason. An isolated Hit was kicking Dyspo's ass like five feet away from Jiren and Toppo at one point. They should have quadruple-teamed Hit right then and there.
Gohan wouldn't abandon justice.
I liked the characterization of Dyspo. It just feels weird to see in his intro episode jobbing to a monster.
Absolute nonsense episode that completely soured what could've been an enjoyable dynamic between Hit and Goku.
Firstly, Dypso for some reason isn't an absolute jobber like the rest of the pride troopers that aren't Toppo and Jiren. Character development? Foreshadowing? No... okay.
Then there's this guy who can prevent ring outs but he doesn't save any of the other pride troopers??? Did I miss something?
Goku's SSG looked awesome but was completely out of the blue and just ridicules the last 3 arcs by it not being used once during them. You're telling me SSG's increased speed wouldn't have helped against Hit, Black or Zamasu? Lmao. It's clear as fuck they forgot about it until this arc which makes it terrible story telling.
I really don't understand how people can enjoy constant retcons and inconsistencies just to shoehorn Goku into any scene. He doesn't even do anything of note as SSG. He just turned SSB in the end.
I just want stuff to make sense. Please.
Firstly, Dypso for some reason isn't an absolute jobber like the rest of the pride troopers that aren't Toppo and Jiren. Character development? Foreshadowing? No... okay.
Then there's this guy who can prevent ring outs but he doesn't save any of the other pride troopers??? Did I miss something?
Goku's SSG looked awesome but was completely out of the blue and just ridicules the last 3 arcs by it not being used once during them. You're telling me SSG's increased speed wouldn't have helped against Hit, Black or Zamasu? Lmao. It's clear as fuck they forgot about it until this arc which makes it terrible story telling.
I really don't understand how people can enjoy constant retcons and inconsistencies just to shoehorn Goku into any scene. He doesn't even do anything of note as SSG. He just turned SSB in the end.
I just want stuff to make sense. Please.
Icyflamez96
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Fuck yeah!
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