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Dragon Blaze (iOS/Android) |OT| Looks Like Vanillaware, Tastes Like F2P
- Thread starter Kitoro
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Graysoul is worth it just for the fact that he can one shot bosses. Excellent for grinding.
I have wasted so many As without any + increase which, technically speaking, are 25 gems a piece, that anything that guarantees a stat increase feels like a well worth long term investment.
I have heard some rumblings about "fire all at one" formation but I currently don't even have the prerequisite units to try it out. I haven't seen or read anything so far about any of the formations being a game changer.
Unless you have the allies to fill out every slot in the formation it isn't worth it. Go with premium summons instead and work on building up your team.
I've been using the Mage formation, and it seems to be working pretty well for me. The ACC bonus is especially nice.
cpp_is_king
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Got 929k in Labyrinth just now. I hope that's enough to get me to top 50 this week. Last week 868k wasn't enough, so with the power creep and all I have the feeling like it's going to creep up again this week, but we'll see.
If I had had just 1 more scroll I think I could have cleared round 45 and probably gotten 1 million, but oh well.
If I had had just 1 more scroll I think I could have cleared round 45 and probably gotten 1 million, but oh well.
wapplew
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I'm using this formation for WB. It improve my score greatly.
well damn, so much for saving SSS combine for tomorrow, thanks for the heads up.
cpp_is_king
Member
I'm saving anyway just in case, might be a mistake. Need to wait until at least Tuesday (the 1st)
True, but I'm just impatient. Still waiting for a healer from combines, if it comes back up it will be a month long and thats plenty time to get another combine ready anyway.
the japanese db hasnt announced the new gb rewards so im assuming it doesnt reset till the 1st, also the SSS combine reward is only once a month, id rather hope to get luck and get a useful unit now to enhance than wait, 1 month is plenty of time to get a SSS
Hmm maybe I'll check it out. Would have to enhance my Windlune. I bought the mage one, not too shabby but I have to use a warrior which can be annoying.
wapplew
Member
Nice! But I hate enhance bonus only on weekend.
With only 5 S left (My last haul was pretty bad), I'm still going to have to get a SSS unit to MAX, and that's probably not going to be easy.
I want my Bloodwind but things will slow down after my next SSS. I don't have much fodder left and used up most ways to get new rubies.
PS Some of you getting 900k in Laby, I can hardly pull 400k. And my team isn't bad at all.
I want my Bloodwind but things will slow down after my next SSS. I don't have much fodder left and used up most ways to get new rubies.
PS Some of you getting 900k in Laby, I can hardly pull 400k. And my team isn't bad at all.
I'm with you on the lab. I can't beat level 30 yet so my best score is 370k give or take. I think the only thing I can do at this point is keep enhancing Draco BS and maybe try to limit break my Byron tank. That and try to use my priest once she's over 60. She's only 56 right now. I have like 4 pieces of SSS gear waiting for her to hit 60.
It's all about the units you have. Without an invulnerable tank, it's a lot harder. Without a great healer, it's a lot harder. I can get 2m on a world boss but can't top 600k in lab.
After doing a lot of arena/gb the last two days, I'm pretty convinced that Blackaria is the perfect anti- Draco BS and Bloodwind. BS/BW just do too much AOE so it's nearly impossible not to kill Blackaria first. I'm going to have to develop a single target team for this meta. Time level make that GS.
After 1 week after making Blackaria, I was able to MAX her yesterday night.
I kinda hated to MAX her and Brightspark because all my S was going to them so I couldn't continue regularly make SS then SSS like I used to do.
Also, RNG wasn't kind to me with Blackaria essences after I made so I had to spend some rubies... sometime I feel that game stop giving you essences after you make the Draco...
I am glad that I am finally back to my old routine because I need to make SSS regulary to Ultimate asap my draco Brightspark. GB is becoming hard with all those ultimates and I don't like to loose a lot like some guildmates I have. Because the winrate ratio of my guild since the reset of the maintenance is less than 60%. Meaning that we're feeding the other guilds often. For example, one of my guildmate who like to brag a lot because he is first of the guild with his parthner actually feeded the other top guild by giving them like 2k points. I don't think they realise it because they like to show off their "successfull" battles on the Facebook page of the guild.
Personally I would've been pissed to have lost/feeded so much (Moba player here).
I kinda hated to MAX her and Brightspark because all my S was going to them so I couldn't continue regularly make SS then SSS like I used to do.
Also, RNG wasn't kind to me with Blackaria essences after I made so I had to spend some rubies... sometime I feel that game stop giving you essences after you make the Draco...
I am glad that I am finally back to my old routine because I need to make SSS regulary to Ultimate asap my draco Brightspark. GB is becoming hard with all those ultimates and I don't like to loose a lot like some guildmates I have. Because the winrate ratio of my guild since the reset of the maintenance is less than 60%. Meaning that we're feeding the other guilds often. For example, one of my guildmate who like to brag a lot because he is first of the guild with his parthner actually feeded the other top guild by giving them like 2k points. I don't think they realise it because they like to show off their "successfull" battles on the Facebook page of the guild.
Personally I would've been pissed to have lost/feeded so much (Moba player here).
cpp_is_king
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Funny thing is that my healer (Mercedes) is garbage tier imo. Idk why anyone likes this piece of shit. I guess I'm going to have to deify her because she's almost completely worthless in labyrinth right now
I use only As to enhance SSS. Save the S for Draco's.
She's great for lab imo because she has 2 heals - it's important to heal up your team after they've been wiped to avoid being immediately wiped again.
I've finally reached 64 on my priest, so my mage, rogue and priest are all done. I'm done grinding for a month!
cpp_is_king
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I don't know, I think she's fucking horrible for lab. She prioritizes her single target heal over the AoE heal so when you raise everyone she uses her single target heal first, and then there's the global cooldown where she can't do anything for a few seconds and FINALLY she uses her AoE heal.
Her AoE heal is also on a ridiculously long cooldown. 80% of the time I use a res scroll, she dies again before using her AoE heal, and since you really need 2 AoE heals to get everyone up from a fresh rez, and her cooldown is so long, everyone else dies again too on the next hit. I'd take Viri over Mercedes honestly.
With a better healer I think I could easily pass 45 and get to 49 or 50.
I don't think a healer is necessary for labyrinth unless it's shabelle or blackaria and even then maybe just as helpers. They just take up a spot in your main party when at higher waves the monsters will 1shot everything beside your tank.
cpp_is_king
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I tried it without a healer and it doesn't work too well, couldn't pass 35. Most attacks don't one shot, just the abilities. But if you have no heals at all then even the enemies auto attacks will kill you
That's actually pretty true, unless you're farming for essences, there's no reason not to spend your shoes on leveling up alts.
I'd take her over Viri
I'd take her over Viri
Well if we will get what Japan will get : 1 exp pot (of 3 days) per week after doing dungeon x15.
It will be tempting to level up an alt, lol.
I've yet to get an SS from a 10-pull, let alone a SSS. Y'all lucky. 10-pulls have felt like a waste of rubies for a while now.
I don't get enough A/B/C units to reliably follow the suggested upgrade formulas. Strongly considering just dumping everything I'm not using in an attempt to Deify someone; I've got just about the rubies to buy the 10 essences required.
I can get either Blackaria (lose Mer), Brightspark (lose Pearla), or Deathcrown (lose Pagu). Blackaria seems like the no-brainer since I'm still using Ranran. But in terms of assessing the value of units I'll lose, Deathcrown looks like a decent choice since I'll still have Patta remaining.
I basically want to shake things up a bit since the SS/SSS approach hasn't yielded the best results - I keep getting duplicates of bum units. Thoughts/opinions/advice are greatly appreciated.
I don't get enough A/B/C units to reliably follow the suggested upgrade formulas. Strongly considering just dumping everything I'm not using in an attempt to Deify someone; I've got just about the rubies to buy the 10 essences required.
I can get either Blackaria (lose Mer), Brightspark (lose Pearla), or Deathcrown (lose Pagu). Blackaria seems like the no-brainer since I'm still using Ranran. But in terms of assessing the value of units I'll lose, Deathcrown looks like a decent choice since I'll still have Patta remaining.
I basically want to shake things up a bit since the SS/SSS approach hasn't yielded the best results - I keep getting duplicates of bum units. Thoughts/opinions/advice are greatly appreciated.
mm that's disappointing. Since you have Mercedes weren't you already going to deify her into blackaria anyway? You're hate for her in guild chat was pretty funny yesterday lol.
Depends what you want to improve for your party. If you want more dps get D. Brightspark. If you need a better healer get Blackaria. Not sure if D. Deathcrown is even worth getting beside his really high base hp, I wouldn't bother thinking about him unless you really need a tank with invulnerability. Losing either Mer or Pearla would be fine even with a 0 enhance Draco if you decide to buy the 10 essence you need.
cpp_is_king
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Yea but I've got like 150 gold right now, and between enhancing equipment, enhancing allies, and limit breaking mercedes, I'm going to be strapped for cash for quite a while. I have 2 SS that I can make another SSS out of to get Mercedes to MAX+3, so really I just need 2 more SSS before I can deify her. I've got about 20 essences farmed up, so I guess that's good.
It's been said before, but it bears repeating: a lot of the Laby progression is luck, unless your tanks are just super-buff. There are certain breakpoints where your entire team will just get one-shotted unless your crowd control is on point.
I would go for DBS first. She will help you in every event and improve scores.
cpp_is_king
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Some of it will be luck no matter how strong yoru team is, but there's a lot that's not luck. I can get to 35 almost every single time I enter, and I can beat it about 50% of the time. I pass 40 probably 75% of the time as well.
The non-luck based aspects of Labyrinth are:
1) AoE stuns and crits. Gram and Draco Brightspark both have an AoE stun, which is critical to making your raises last as long as possible, ideally long enough to kill everything in the round. Bloodwind and Brightspark critting their Rain of Arrows and Hell Raiser abilities is almost sure to kill everything in the round except some of the higher defense boss monsters like Karang or Byron.
2) Scroll timing. You can't just spam scrolls right when you die. Your AoE abilities have to be up and ready to go. Ideally the enemies should have just used their most powerful AoE abilities. And if possible you can even try to time it so that it's during a window where the enemies are already stunned (i.e. Gram just used Thunder Blade). On round 30 for example, I don't use a scroll right after the first wipe upon entering, because usually Mercedes' heals aren't up yet. Assuming everyone died except tanks, what I instead do is just sit there and wait for after Gnoll Gnoll (the AoE wind attack) and Nordic Hammer have gone off. Once I see both of those, I hit raise and cross my fingers.
And a slightly more difficult technique to achieve is to time your scroll so that your healer has a chance to get everyone healed up to full right before you proceed to the next round. You don't want to proceed to the next round with everyone still unhealed yet. If your tanks are strong then you should just be able to let them sit there while everyone else is dead, waiting for the right moment. A good example of this is on round 40, where most of the time I kill all the trash but Byron is still standing. He uses this All Fire ability that will wipe all my non tank characters, so when I hit raise I want to make sure I can kill him without him using that again, but I also want to make sure it takes *long enough* to kill him that everyone has a chance to get fully healed again. If I do a full raise when he has 10k HP left I'll just go on to 41 with everyone in bad shape, but if I do a full raise at 100k there's a good chance he'll use All Fire again. This is really dependent on your team so you have to get a feel for when is a good time to raise on the various rounds in these situations.
There's also a balance between conserving scrolls and making sure you have all 3 scrolls available on the multiple-of-5 rounds. You want to use a few scrolls as possible so that you have more when you reach the later stages, but at the same time the x1, x2, x3, and x4 rounds are all considerably easier than the x5 and x0 rounds, and I can often beat an x1, x2, or even x3 round without even having a healer or my DPS characters alive. So on the one hand, maybe your DPS wipe on 31. If you raise now, you "wasted" a scroll since you probably could have just kept going. But if you don't raise now, there's a chance you'll NEED to raise them by the time you hit 33 or 34, and then the cooldown won't have come back around again when you hit 35, and you'll die because you couldn't use a scroll. So while using a scroll earlier is sometimes a waste, it means the cooldown starts refreshing earlier, meaning it might be up when you need it most. So it's hard to judge this sometimes.
3) Having a healer that doesn't suck. With Mercedes you're going to wait a good 4-5 seconds after hitting a scroll before she'll use her AoE heal. By that time she's probably already died again.
4) Use a warrior main
5) Formation. I'm currently back and forth between Noble Chivalry and Solidarity of Heart, trying to figure out which is better. My Noble Chivalry is only about level 12 or so while my Solidarity of Heart is about 22, but I will say that my 929k score was on Solidarity of Heart.
Alright, I'll leave Deathcrown out of the mix. Maybe I'll go for DBS and take Ranran to Max + whatever. TY for the advice.
I think I just need to rework my current party makeup to get through Legendary; I can do that and work on DBS together.
GM events september 2015
Source : http://m.gamevilusa.com/forums/show...-30-11-59PM-PDT-CEST-SGT)&p=782477#post782477
Source : http://m.gamevilusa.com/forums/show...-30-11-59PM-PDT-CEST-SGT)&p=782477#post782477
cpp_is_king
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Wow 2 SS on GM events in addition to an SS and SSS on attendance bonus? Really nice
Pejo
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GM events september 2015
Source : http://m.gamevilusa.com/forums/show...-30-11-59PM-PDT-CEST-SGT)&p=782477#post782477
Thank goodness for all the free S and SS units. I pretty much blew my load this past weekend getting fed up with getting no SSS healer and made a Greysoul. I need to start building up my units and enhancing Greysoul to be able to survive a bit longer. He's a beast as far as DPS goes though.
GM events september 2015
Source : http://m.gamevilusa.com/forums/show...-30-11-59PM-PDT-CEST-SGT)&p=782477#post782477
Yay. Glad I held off my SSS combine. Instant 100 rubies