TekunoRobby
Tag of Excellence
I approve of this thread!
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Dragon Quest appreciation thread
- Thread starter Aeana
- Start date
D
Deleted member 17706
Unconfirmed Member
After reading this thread I decided to replay every installment! Thanks OP!
Aeana said:Hopefully, with the remakes coming out (and very possibly coming to North America), people will get to experience more of the series. I always feel like the series is woefully under-appreciated, here.
It is, sadly.
But I think DQVIII helped introduce it to a lot of new people, and I'm really hopeful that the remakes will do the same, allow more people to get to experience and enjoy Dragon Quest.
ethelred said:
Yeah, I joined with VIII. (Which I still haven't finished. :lol Just got the Godbird Soulstone.) It's weird that I like it so much because I usually hate old-school JRPGs. While I used to like them, the genre has just grown to stagnant for me. Yet, DQVIII somehow managed to appeal to me. When are we getting the remakes? (Or, at least, when is Japan getting the remakes?)
Aeana said:Japan is getting DQ4 DS sometime this year, but that's all we know.
Still waiting for that DQ9 trailer from the SE Party!
I didn't know they showed a new trailer! Oh well, we'll probably have to wait till TGS anyway.
I still remember that announcement thread. So epic. :lol
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=133134&page=21&highlight=dragon+quest+cash
Pages 21 onward are just pure gold.
traveler said:
I remember posting on that thread, with the remakes and DQIX for the DS, Nintendo has literally won the next-gen war.
Edit: So I take it the few DQ fanboys in GAF were part of the Enix Boards before they bellied up in 2002?? I was a member since it opened up, but posted on occasion there, wish there was a big DQ Forum like that, and yes I know woodus and slimeknights are good boards, but the Enix Boards were better and bigger, cuz DQVII had come out around that time.
These are pretty much my thoughts. I'd also add in the value of having balanced enemy stats, abilities, and AI, as well as balanced characters. DQ is one of those rare series where non-boss battles grow to be a challenge. Most RPGs lean toward cakewalk battles or toward... ...well, battles that are still cakewalks, provided you take the 3 or 4 good characters instead of everyone else, who sucks immeasurably.Chairman Yang said:
NolbertoS said:
I was there, but I didn't post a whole lot. I really enjoyed that board, it was a fairly small group of people that played nice and got along well, apart from one meltdown in particular I remember.
Anticipating DWVII and then DWIV remake, good times. So awesome that we're getting these DS games now.Labombadog
Member
I played 7 and 8. I thought 7 was "ok", because the battle were nothing to brag about and the exploration is so bad. I had no idea where to go next most of the time.
8 was great, because the battles were fun and challenging, music was nice, and it was very long. Downside? Not really a good story.
I appreciate the games though and can understand why there is a big fan base for it(mainly in Japan).
8 was great, because the battles were fun and challenging, music was nice, and it was very long. Downside? Not really a good story.
I appreciate the games though and can understand why there is a big fan base for it(mainly in Japan).
Labombadog said:
You do know that in DQ VII, there was a "certain" person that gave you clues on where to go next, if you weren't sure which island to go and the clues "she" left you where always on target. Not many people knew this though, but it was kinda like a gamefaq person answering some questions on where to go next
manueldelalas
Time Traveler
I have played DQ 1-2-3 on GBC, 4 on NES, 5-6 on computer by emulator (because they are translated (I think it's illegal... but will play them again on DS, that should cover it)) and half of DQ 7.
For me, DQ 1-3 where the worst of the series, because the story was like "OK you are the Hero/descendant of the Hero, and we have this bad guy and we want you to kill him"; and in every town instead of helping you to kill the bad dude, you had to do chores and help everyone, because if you didn´t, you couldn´t save the world...
Then there is DQ 7 in which I got bored after finishing disc 1, the shards system got old and the game wasn´t that good.
DQ 4 and 5 are my favorites, they had a great story, where very fun and there where many surprises.
In DQ4 I found the chapter system very nice because you had time to learn the background story and the mechanics of every character (There where some characters in DQ5 and 6 that I never used).
The story of DQ5 was great in my opinion, great plot twists and story overall.
Las is DQ6 which started really good, but tossing the job system at the end of the game made it very difficult to earn good jobs, and the end filled rushed and the music wasn't very good.
Never played DQ8 (waiting for a DS port )
So it is DQ5<DQ4<DQ6<DQ7<DQ3<DQ2<DQ1 for me.
I hope S-E re-implements the action fighting system in 9, because I'm getting sick of random encounters. DQ games always change in a way or another, and I think action battles are a great change. I trust fully in Yuji Horii and Level 5.
For me, DQ 1-3 where the worst of the series, because the story was like "OK you are the Hero/descendant of the Hero, and we have this bad guy and we want you to kill him"; and in every town instead of helping you to kill the bad dude, you had to do chores and help everyone, because if you didn´t, you couldn´t save the world...
Then there is DQ 7 in which I got bored after finishing disc 1, the shards system got old and the game wasn´t that good.
DQ 4 and 5 are my favorites, they had a great story, where very fun and there where many surprises.
In DQ4 I found the chapter system very nice because you had time to learn the background story and the mechanics of every character (There where some characters in DQ5 and 6 that I never used).
The story of DQ5 was great in my opinion, great plot twists and story overall.
Las is DQ6 which started really good, but tossing the job system at the end of the game made it very difficult to earn good jobs, and the end filled rushed and the music wasn't very good.
Never played DQ8 (waiting for a DS port
)So it is DQ5<DQ4<DQ6<DQ7<DQ3<DQ2<DQ1 for me.
I hope S-E re-implements the action fighting system in 9, because I'm getting sick of random encounters. DQ games always change in a way or another, and I think action battles are a great change. I trust fully in Yuji Horii and Level 5.
Pureauthor
Member
manueldelalas said:
...There are no words.
Red Scarlet
Member
Oh my.
manueldelalas said:I have played DQ 1-2-3 on GBC, 4 on NES, 5-6 on computer by emulator (because they are translated (I think it's illegal... but will play them again on DS, that should cover it)) and half of DQ 7.
For me, DQ 1-3 where the worst of the series, because the story was like "OK you are the Hero/descendant of the Hero, and we have this bad guy and we want you to kill him"; and in every town instead of helping you to kill the bad dude, you had to do chores and help everyone, because if you didn´t, you couldn´t save the world...
Then there is DQ 7 in which I got bored after finishing disc 1, the shards system got old and the game wasn´t that good.
DQ 4 and 5 are my favorites, they had a great story, where very fun and there where many surprises.
In DQ4 I found the chapter system very nice because you had time to learn the background story and the mechanics of every character (There where some characters in DQ5 and 6 that I never used).
The story of DQ5 was great in my opinion, great plot twists and story overall.
Las is DQ6 which started really good, but tossing the job system at the end of the game made it very difficult to earn good jobs, and the end filled rushed and the music wasn't very good.
Never played DQ8 (waiting for a DS port
So it is DQ5<DQ4<DQ6<DQ7<DQ3<DQ2<DQ1 for me.
I hope S-E re-implements the action fighting system in 9, because I'm getting sick of random encounters. DQ games always change in a way or another, and I think action battles are a great change. I trust fully in Yuji Horii and Level 5.
'<'. You keep using that symbol. I do not think it means what you think it means.
Dragon Quest 6 is my favourite, and probably my favourite RPG of the SNES era, even above CT and FF6.
And it all comes down to one single feature. The Overworld(s).
They are so amazing. Mirror worlds, but without one being a copy of the other, like in aLttP, Metroid Prime 2 or Chrono Cross.
And, whenever you get a new transportation method (and there are a few, some exclusives to each world), you can explore a few new places.
It is so well designed, I just love it.
edit: of course, the rest of the game is pretty good, too, but the map design takes the cake.
And it all comes down to one single feature. The Overworld(s).
They are so amazing. Mirror worlds, but without one being a copy of the other, like in aLttP, Metroid Prime 2 or Chrono Cross.
And, whenever you get a new transportation method (and there are a few, some exclusives to each world), you can explore a few new places.
It is so well designed, I just love it.
edit: of course, the rest of the game is pretty good, too, but the map design takes the cake.
I'd like to add my appreciation for Dragon Quest III into the thread!
My first Dragon Quest was VIII, because Square bundled it with the Final Fantasy XII demo. I had no intention of really getting into DQ, but I ended up playing it and I really, really enjoyed it. Recently I started playing Dragon Quest III on the Game Boy Color because I've heard from many people that it's one of the best in the series. Though I haven't played them all, I can say without a doubt that Dragon Quest III is one of the most amazing RPGs I've played...I'm not yet finished with it, but I'm pretty far in and I'm absolutely in love with the game.
First, the story. It's not an overly complex story, but it's a really charming and relaxing story, I think. You can make of it what you want by piecing together more and more details by talking to townspeople and the various kings. You can learn a lot about the legacy you look to live up to as the son of Ortega, and also a lot about the evil that looks to take over the world. My favorite thing about the story though is not the grand narrative, which is of course epic and adventurous, but the little experiences you find along the way, like the two lovers that killed themselves because they couldn't be together, or Gupta and Tania who get caught by Kandar and his goons and you have to fight them off. There's so much in here to be appreciated! It's really developed for its time and it is still incredibly entertaining.
The gameplay is so enjoyable because it's so fast. The animations and battles play out really quickly, so there isn't much downtime. There's the job system, which I am just beginning to mess around with since I've just hit level 20 now on my warrior. The animations in battle are also stunningly good for the little Game Boy Color...all the enemies have distinct personalities and have their own distinct sensibility about them. Not every enemy feels so evil and menacing like in other RPGs...but some are more lighthearted and goofy, and it's really enjoyable.
Then there's the music. Sugiyama's work is enjoyable and defining despite the limited audio capabilities of the GBC. The overture is rousing even through the small speaker, and the various themes that I remember from DQ8 all sound really crisp and pleasing here. I think the symphonic recording is awesome too! Heavenly Flight is really a great song. Sugiyama is certainly one of the best.
So yeah, I appreciate DQIII and hope you do too!
My first Dragon Quest was VIII, because Square bundled it with the Final Fantasy XII demo. I had no intention of really getting into DQ, but I ended up playing it and I really, really enjoyed it. Recently I started playing Dragon Quest III on the Game Boy Color because I've heard from many people that it's one of the best in the series. Though I haven't played them all, I can say without a doubt that Dragon Quest III is one of the most amazing RPGs I've played...I'm not yet finished with it, but I'm pretty far in and I'm absolutely in love with the game.
First, the story. It's not an overly complex story, but it's a really charming and relaxing story, I think. You can make of it what you want by piecing together more and more details by talking to townspeople and the various kings. You can learn a lot about the legacy you look to live up to as the son of Ortega, and also a lot about the evil that looks to take over the world. My favorite thing about the story though is not the grand narrative, which is of course epic and adventurous, but the little experiences you find along the way, like the two lovers that killed themselves because they couldn't be together, or Gupta and Tania who get caught by Kandar and his goons and you have to fight them off. There's so much in here to be appreciated! It's really developed for its time and it is still incredibly entertaining.
The gameplay is so enjoyable because it's so fast. The animations and battles play out really quickly, so there isn't much downtime. There's the job system, which I am just beginning to mess around with since I've just hit level 20 now on my warrior. The animations in battle are also stunningly good for the little Game Boy Color...all the enemies have distinct personalities and have their own distinct sensibility about them. Not every enemy feels so evil and menacing like in other RPGs...but some are more lighthearted and goofy, and it's really enjoyable.
Then there's the music. Sugiyama's work is enjoyable and defining despite the limited audio capabilities of the GBC. The overture is rousing even through the small speaker, and the various themes that I remember from DQ8 all sound really crisp and pleasing here. I think the symphonic recording is awesome too! Heavenly Flight is really a great song. Sugiyama is certainly one of the best.
So yeah, I appreciate DQIII and hope you do too!
I'm really glad you're enjoying the game, Kev! It's really wonderful to see people get to experience these games for the first time. I wish I could.
This is actually something that's common to all of the DQ games, and I'm surprised that it's not copied more often. The focus is on the journey, not the destination, and I personally prefer it over the kind of storytelling you'll find in Xenosaga or even Final Fantasy. All of the little stories in each of the towns as you progress are so charming and interesting, and when you're finally ready to move on, you really feel like you've accomplished something.
Hopefully, you'll give some of the other games a try after this one!
Y2Kev said:
This is actually something that's common to all of the DQ games, and I'm surprised that it's not copied more often. The focus is on the journey, not the destination, and I personally prefer it over the kind of storytelling you'll find in Xenosaga or even Final Fantasy. All of the little stories in each of the towns as you progress are so charming and interesting, and when you're finally ready to move on, you really feel like you've accomplished something.
Hopefully, you'll give some of the other games a try after this one!
Kev, just a reminder that DQIV comes out for the DS in Japan this month, and in NA sometime next year (most probably). It's right up there with III in overall quality, some people prefer it. Maybe you were already planning on getting it, but I thought I'd throw that in there just in case.
Then there are the V and VI remakes later on.
Then there are the V and VI remakes later on.
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
Systems_id
Banned
DQ8 is my first DQ game also (got it for $9.99) and I've enjoyed it a lot also. I think I got 40 hours into it before I put it down for awhile but I plan on getting back into it, possibly this weekend now that I've seen this thread. I just wish the game wasn't so freaking slow. It feels like everything you do short of walking around has an annoying load time.
On the topic of appreciating Dragon Quest, I was browsing YouTube a while ago and came across these piano medleys, which I thought were really well done. They're not horribly ancient, so I figured some DQ fans here might not have heard these.
Dragon Quest (my favorite of his vids)
Dragon Quest II (best file select music ever)
Dragon Quest IV, part one
Dragon Quest IV, part two
Dragon Quest VIII, part one
Dragon Quest VIII, part two
Dragon Quest (my favorite of his vids)
Dragon Quest II (best file select music ever)
Dragon Quest IV, part one
Dragon Quest IV, part two
Dragon Quest VIII, part one
Dragon Quest VIII, part two
thetrin
Hail, peons, for I have come as ambassador from the great and bountiful Blueberry Butt Explosion
Dragon Quest I was my very first RPG, and while I took a hiatus from the series after the second game, I came back for DQVII and then VIII. With the remakes, it's a good chance for me to go back and play all the ones I missed.
I'm almost finished DQIV, and I'm having a blast with it. Can't wait for V and VI on DS.
I never understood the whole DQ vs. FF thing. Both are excellent series with their own unique charm and idiosyncracies. Both are worth digging into, and both are worth loving.
I'm almost finished DQIV, and I'm having a blast with it. Can't wait for V and VI on DS.
I never understood the whole DQ vs. FF thing. Both are excellent series with their own unique charm and idiosyncracies. Both are worth digging into, and both are worth loving.
Twilight Princess
Member
dqviii, i hate the battle theme so much. other than that, it's a good game. the dragon lord(?) challenges were really fun.
Link1110
Member
Then watch this: http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm689445Johnas said:
One of the earliest licensed songs in a video game that I know of.
A Human Becoming
More than a Member
I've only beaten the original and VIII. I played II and VI but couldn't get into them. I really want to try III along with the DS remakes, which hopefully come here soon.
Bonerville High
Banned
Currently playing through Dragon Quest VIII (my first mainline DQ game), and it is a near religious experience. I hate RPGs, but the crisp simplicity and charm of this game has really captured my attention. I look forward to playing the DS remakes if the older games are as good as this one is.