Megalosaro
Banned
The accents were terrible yes, but I took more offense at the forced pop culture jokes that slaughtered the games atmosphere. DQ4 is a fantastic game with great humor as it is. It didnt need gimmicks like that.
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Dragon Quest Community Thread: Come in! Would you like a Puff-Puff?
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Megalosaro
Banned
Josef Starling.
They change the personality. Personalities determine your stat growth on level-up. If you want more HP, then you want to get something like the 'tough' or 'ironman' personalities. Here's a page with stat growth info for each personality type: http://strategywiki.org/wiki/Dragon_Warrior_III/Personality
In general, the best personalities are lewd (male) and sexy (female) for the highest across-the-board stat growths. Frankly I think female characters have the better deal with sexy though.
This is why I always roll with an all-female party in the DQIII remakes.
It's really strange and annoying that the overworld/dungeon music starts over after every battle in the DS version of DQ4, but it resumes where it left off after each battle in the PSX version. It'd be cool to have some sort of definitive remake version of DQ4 that has the immigrant town and music resuming from the PSX version and the party talk, graphics improvements, and monster idle animations from the DS version. Although the PSX version does have a couple of things it does better graphically than the DS version, like the water in towns is transparent.
I thought the best strategy was to change classes while changing personalities to match.
Like... create a "Sharp" Wizard. 120% Agility and 140% Intelligence growth.
Eventually change class to a Warrior. Also change your personality to "Valiant", which comes with a 140% Strength modifier. As a Valiant-personality, your Agility and Intelligence growth now becomes penalized, but as a Warrior, your pathetic Agility and Intelligence could never have hoped to exceed the inherited stats that you hold as a legacy of your former life as a Sharp Wizard, so there's really no drawback. You just have to plan out career paths for your characters.
Since your Hero is a well-rounded class, and they can't change classes, it's generally best to cheat the personality test at the start of the game so that your Hero ends up as a Sexy Female Hero, with well-rounded stat bonuses.
How does the mobile version compare?
Even though the manual likes to suggest it, I don't personally see much reason to go magician -> warrior in the first place. I always do hero, priest->sage, magician->sage, thief->martial artist these days and leave it at that. It's more than enough for all of the content in the game. But I guess if you wanna have fun or exploit the stat system to get super high stats for whatever reason, you could do that.
The smartphone version restarts the music too. And the music sounds worse (IMO) despite being based on the symphonic versions. Otherwise it's basically the same as the DS version, except that for the immigrant town you have to find more people for some reason. I didn't understand that change, because I felt that if they were going to make you find more people like the PSX version, they'd give you control over the town forms like the PSX version does, but they don't.
Megalosaro
Banned
Id the npc recruitment like the ds version kr the ps version
It's like the DS version, you just have to get more people, and the resulting town is always the same. You don't get to choose who you pick up like the PSX version and choose which form you end up with.
Megalosaro
Banned
Monsters are a bit easier, but XP is gained faster as well.
In any case, I'm not sure I'd ever want to do Cave to Rhone ever again.
In any case, I'm not sure I'd ever want to do Cave to Rhone ever again.
This was the exact reason it took me forever to beat that game. Jesus Christ what a kick in the nuts.
Now that sounds like a fun place, let's see when I reach it.
They increased the exp/gold gain rate, the princess learns kazing, they increased the strength of several pieces of equipment, and changed which equipment the prince of Samaltria can equip. They also raised the power of kasizzle and kaboom, added some items that weren't in the original, added a bank, and raised the item carry limit from 8 to 10 for each character.
That is interesting to know. I remember vividly getting torn to pieces over and over again in Rhone on my DW2 NES cart as a kid. I don't remember encountering that when I replayed it on the SFC cart five years ago or so annoying and frustrating, but I don't think there were any "Thou art dead." moments.
PumpkinSpice
Banned
All Dragon Quest remakes do a really good job of going back and trying to fix difficulty balance issues in the originals. The Dragon Quest VII remake has meant way, way less grinding -- I only had to class grind a bit to beat HellCloud, mostly because
It's not even just "make the game easier," more like "make it fair."
my main healer had just left the party.
Eh, well, even though they slightly reduced the number of battles needed for many of the classes to rank up, and spread abilities around a little better, they actually penalize grinding because the effective level (the maximum level you can be for battles in that area to 'count' for class progression) of every non-99 area was reduced. Pair that with the fact that, due to the visible enemies, you end up fighting a lot more than in the original and leveling up faster (ignoring the tablet dungeons which also augment experience if you do them), it actually becomes more difficult to bring up alternative classes in some cases. But yes, overall I'm pretty happy with the changes in DQ7 3DS, even if I do kinda miss hybrid skills.
PumpkinSpice
Banned
The intermediate classes are only down slightly in # of battles needed, but beginner/base classes are like around half the number of battles to master them. Warrior for example was 130 in the original, only 78 in the remake. Fighter is down from 160 to master to 82 in the remake.
I feel like there are serious reductions in HP on a lot of monsters as well; I had way less trouble beating bosses even pre-Dharma.
I feel like there are serious reductions in HP on a lot of monsters as well; I had way less trouble beating bosses even pre-Dharma.
Megalosaro
Banned
I am not a fan of some of the gimped content in the 3ds remake. What they did to the fane at the beginning is depressing. And the scenes in Dilac being trincated is heartbreaking.
I still want the remake though.
I still want the remake though.
PumpkinSpice
Banned
The fane I can understand since it was just hours in the way of getting to the actual game. Some of the puzzles were kinda cool but not worth the time.
So what you're saying is that the liberties the translation team took compared to the original is punacceptable?
I'll see myself out.
Megalosaro
Banned
The atmosphere and build up was perfect though. It did an amazing job of setting up the mood of the game. Now the pacing is weird
The Real Abed
Perma-Junior
Messed up aspect ratio? That's standard SNES resolution.
Ugh, I don't know. It seems slightly more stretched on my TV. You even made me take out my SFC to check how it looks there, but I couldn't see much difference. It's most noticable on the text, but of course the text is in Japanese on my SFC, so it looks very different anyway.
Oh well, I'll just remove that remark then, that wasn't the point of the screenshot anyway.
Oh well, I'll just remove that remark then, that wasn't the point of the screenshot anyway.
Purple Cheeto
Member
I started DQ7 again. I don't know why.
I wonder if it's possible to get the cautery sword on your first day at work in chapter 3 of DQ4. I got it on my second customer on day 2 this time, which is probably the earliest I've ever gotten it.
Probably because it's awesome?!
Are you going through the whole series at the moment?
Megalosaro
Banned
You know what is a pain in the asses. Saving money from working in order to get the sword
Working in Lakanaba? I never bother doing that. Once someone sells me the cautery sword, I go out and continue as normal. Go grab the chain sickle from the northern dungeon, then go free the dude in jail at the southern castle and take his dog to sniff out the foxes and get the suit of plate armo for free there. On top of that armor, enemies like to drop iron armor, and selling that stuff to the the guy in the castle for high markup should get you enough to buy the sword right away. I got 2 iron armor drops from enemies before I got there, so that worked out really nicely.
I guess it's kinda turned into that. It wasn't my intention, but I'm in a DQ mood at the moment.
Good way to spend a summer. Will your adventures culminate in a triumphant return to DQ10?
Purple Cheeto
Member
I tried playing it on PSP a few years back, but I got stuck when I got under water. I also tried to avoid levelling almost completely until I got to Dharma and that made the early stage of the game more unpleasant.
I wanted an RPG to play on emulator that I could play one handed, because I come home and my dog wants met to pet him but I want to play games. RPGs are about all I can manage to play. Also with E3 coming and going and no announcement of DQ7 on 3DS in NA made this a good time. That and the melancholy nature of the game kind of fits with my current mood.
Megalosaro
Banned
I am assuming you are referring to the psx, its not bad I guess. Its hard as hell though. There is definitely charm though.
Yeah the one that made it to NA.
I don't but it's an option down the line in the future if SE never gets around to localizing it.
I guess a pertinent question would be if the game is even worth it i.e. just as good or better than the 2nd?
I'm excited by this because VII comes after VI, I'm interested to see you blow through that one in a couple of days as well! Reach for the stars!
Megalosaro
Banned
Terry is my favorite non-Pisaro dq character. Its a shame you get him so late into the game.
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
Every time I play a DQ game these horrendous accents, puns and references really kill the experience for me. I wish they just did a straight translation.